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Quote from: Keith on February 13, 2016, 03:20:40 PM

Quote from: JC on February 13, 2016, 02:39:39 AM

Quote from: Mojo on February 07, 2016, 10:03:37 PM
Will a wild @JC appear?

I was on holiday ##

I've kinda been out of the loop a little recently so I'm not entirely sure what the requirements for "RS NXT" are, but based on the WoW Legion requirements either of the specifications proposed should be fine.

A couple of thoughts though:

- SSD size:  WoW legion needs 45GB so that'll mean on a 120GB SSD you're really going to be pressed for space with an OS' etc.  Go for a 250GB at least
- Hard Drive:  Do you actually need one as well? do you have movies & music that you hold locally, or do you just use netflix/spotify etc?
- CPU:  The one chosen is two generations old now, assume you chose it for cost reasons?  If it's significantly cheaper, go for it, but a 6000 series chip/motherboard would be better
- Motherboard:  It's kinda shitty, only two ram slots & no real room to add expansion cards later (eg. WiFi), this seems better: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3ha  or this if you're happy with full ATX: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97anniversary

Just my initial thoughts anyway, it looks like a good rig for not much money - keep in mind last I saw ATI drivers still suck balls, so it might still be worth sacrificing performance and going for the nvidia 970 anyway :3

-Hmm on the SSD/Hard drive point: on my current computer I have 336GB out of 500GB available (as well as having an external harddrive if I need to get rid of some space, so I suppose you're right in that I probably don't need both. I could use the extra money from not having a hard drive to expand the SSD a little bit.
-As far as the CPU goes I don't know how to tell how many generations old they are but I think I made an upgrade by using that first mobo you sent- there was a combo package that saved a little bit.
-I really don't know my approach to the video cards, I have some people saying that the 390 is better and others saying the 970 is better and I don't understand why haha.

Here's what I updated it to based on what you said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kzfh4D
And here's that same build but with a 970 instead and a little less wattage:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CQdxnQ

Of course they turn out to be the exact same price to the cent

With regard to the CPU - understanding the numbers that make it up can be a little tricky, but in simple terms this is basically what the numbers mean:

"i3/i5/i7" Gives a general indicator of the performance.  Generally (but not always), most i3's are dual core with Hyperthreading, most i5's are Quad Core, most i7's are Quad Core or more, with Hyperthreading

"-nxxx (eg. -4xxx)" This gives the generation of the CPU, the current generation is 5 and 6 (they were both released together in mid 2015).  In most situations, a newer generation CPU is faster even when they may have the same speed (eg. a gen 6 @ 3.4Ghz is normally faster than a gen 4 @ 3.4Ghz). 

"-xnnn (eg. -x590)" indicates the relative performance of that CPU, within it's class (eg. i5), higher is typically better


Just looking at some benchmarks, the i5-4590 looks like it still is a good choice and there's not a huge performance gain from going to the latest gen chips. 


With regard to the Graphics Cards, it tends to be a personal preference kind of thing.  I have had bad luck in the past with ATI cards (Driver issues as above) so I generally don't recommend them as a result.  Either the 390 or 970 will be great for what you want, if it was me I'd personally go for the second option.

Cheers,

JC

Quote from: Mojo on February 07, 2016, 10:03:37 PM
Will a wild @JC appear?

I was on holiday ##

I've kinda been out of the loop a little recently so I'm not entirely sure what the requirements for "RS NXT" are, but based on the WoW Legion requirements either of the specifications proposed should be fine.

A couple of thoughts though:

- SSD size:  WoW legion needs 45GB so that'll mean on a 120GB SSD you're really going to be pressed for space with an OS' etc.  Go for a 250GB at least
- Hard Drive:  Do you actually need one as well? do you have movies & music that you hold locally, or do you just use netflix/spotify etc?
- CPU:  The one chosen is two generations old now, assume you chose it for cost reasons?  If it's significantly cheaper, go for it, but a 6000 series chip/motherboard would be better
- Motherboard:  It's kinda shitty, only two ram slots & no real room to add expansion cards later (eg. WiFi), this seems better: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3ha  or this if you're happy with full ATX: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97anniversary

Just my initial thoughts anyway, it looks like a good rig for not much money - keep in mind last I saw ATI drivers still suck balls, so it might still be worth sacrificing performance and going for the nvidia 970 anyway :3

If you really want to waste time..... try this one:

http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

Quote from: Randy on June 09, 2014, 07:52:36 PM
$59.99
1080p, 60 FPS
Dedicated Servers
Full Halo 2 Multiplayer intact
Over 100 maps running on original engines
All levels and game modes unlocked from the start
Custom playlists that allow you to combine all 4 games
4000 Gamerscore
Access to Halo 5 Multiplayer Beta Included
Digital Series 'Nightfall' also included



YESSSSSSS

I may have finally been convinced to buy an XBone :3

Quote from: Elyxiatic on June 08, 2014, 11:57:07 AM
Questions -

• I'm tossing up between the GTX 760 2/4GB & GTX 770 2/4GB. Reviews say 4GB doesn't get used (will it?), & the GTX 770 is +$100 on my current setup, and another +$50 for the 4GB versions of each.
• Opinions on the motherboard? I've taken a stab at a mid-range model here. While its newer than the z87, it does cost +$50 more.
• Is 8GB of RAM fine? For gaming I don't believe 16GB will get used
• Is the i5 processor fine for gaming? I think i7 is overkill (not doing video editing, photoshop). Also I've gone for the low power version, saves ~20W. I could get a i5 3.5Ghz for $10 more, but power saving is a good thing right?
• I've gone for a 750W PSU here. Put it into a calculator and it came out as a min. 650W with GTX760 & min. 750W with GTX770. If I get the 770, is it too close to the minimum & should I upgrade to 850W?

Your general thoughts & opinions are welcome  :)

Overall - looks pretty good, and very similar to Patricia's set up :3

In response to your questions:

1. I'd recommend the GTX 770, they 760 is a good card no doubt, but it is sort of at that uncomfortable point where it will be out of date fairly quickly and it's just not quite good enough to buy given that it's now mid-late cycle (it's been over a year for the 770 & nearly that long for the 760) for those cards.  I'd expect the 8xx series later this year and for those 'mid spec' cards it's probably worth waiting (the 770 & higher are good enough to last a fair while, so it wouldn't worry me so much).

In regard to the 2 or 4GB question - I probably wouldn't bother, even if you went for the 770 unless you're running a large screen (eg. 1600p or above).  In fact, unless you went for SLi I doubt you'd ever use that much so unless that's your plan, save the pennies.


2. To be honest, unless you're a 'hardcore' overclocker - most motherboards are much of a muchness for day to day use.  You've got a Z97 series chip so that means it's good, and it's from a reputable brand so you should be sweet. 


3. What Patty said really - I'd maybe go for 16GB if you went for an i7, but since you're not don't worry about it.


4.  I'm running an i5-4570 and it's absolutely fine for gaming (it's got the same base clock as a 4690, but it doesn't turbo as high - 3.6 vs. 3.9 Ghz).  I honestly wouldn't bother with the low power version, keep in mind that it's TDP (Thermal Design Power) which doesn't necessarily mean it uses 20W more/less - it just means when it's under load that's the maximum heat you can expect it to create. 

If you're using it that hard then you'll probably wish you had the full power version, and assuming it isn't significantly more I'd go for the full power one for the higher base clock.  The benefit of the full power version is when you put it under load, it will run all four cores faster (eg. 4 @ 3.7Ghz) whereas the 'S' will only run one or two at that speed, BF4 does push all 4 cores.

Also keep in mind that it's not going to use 84W/65W at all times - CPU's are amazingly efficient these days, so if you're not putting load through them they'll slow everything down to save energy (while I'm writing this post, my '3.2Ghz' i5 is running at 800Mhz).


5. 750W is overkill, and even nVidia doesn't recommend that much for a 770 (they say min 600W: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/specifications) and they are normally fairly conservative on what you really need - not sure what calculator you used?

Normally people use this one, which suggests 456W as a recommended spec based on the kit above:  http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

If I was you, I'd go for one of the Seasonic Platinum ones (eg. the 660W) - they're about the same price, but are definitely a better PSU:  http://www.seasonicusa.com/Platinum_Series_XP2.htm

Quote from: Patty on June 01, 2014, 10:36:30 PM
Yeah glad I didn't waste the extra money on 780, for 1080p 770 is absoultely fine :3. Yeah I'm just a lazy ass student so I have plenty of time for gaming :>, but if you do upgrade I can reccomend the 770 (even though the 800 series will probably be out soon enough so maybe it's worth waiting.)

Ah the good old conundrum with IT equipment - 'But the new one is only a few months away' :3

Probably will go for the 870 though (assuming it fits in the same price bracket as a 770 with a performance bump of course), the 750/750 Ti is supposedly using similar tech to what we can expect in the 800 series and they've got pretty incredible performance per watt so we can probably expect some pretty awesome cards.

A 780 would have been pretty overkill for 1080p - I didn't realise you were running such a low res, you should upgrade your screen now ##

Yeah, much like Crysis ('1') I don't think Metro 2033 actually runs well on anything, It's a beautiful game nonetheless :3

I'm fairly tempted by a 770 - the only thing that puts me off is that I haven't actually had time to pay any games for at least a month so I'm not sure it's worth it for me.  I wouldn't be worried normally, but my 560 Ti is pretty much on it's last legs (a fan bearing has failed, so it sounds like an electric drill for ~30 seconds when it starts up) so I should grab one while I'm overseas  :@

Quote from: Patty on May 31, 2014, 11:27:28 PM

Quote from: Mojohaza1 on May 31, 2014, 07:28:22 AM
looks like a good set up :)

What's the boot speed now?

Counted 11 seconds from the Motherboard boot screen to being into windows

It's nice isn't it, obviously the benefits aren't just restricted to boot up time but it is great when it barely manages to fully load the Windows logo before it's done :3

Looks like a good rig, I'd be curious to see how that runs some proper games (no guys, RS does not count....) especially at 1080p - I'd imagine it would be at or close to max graphics on pretty much everything.

Quote from: Patty on May 28, 2014, 01:11:51 AM
:3 hey qtpi, my build is getting a bit old (q6600 with a 750ti I chucked in recently as a temp replacement to my old card that died.)

opinions? Is anything a bottleneck? Rather not spend MUCH more than that, but if any suggestions for changes are appreciated.

(Not retarded already have other components.)

Looks sexy in a very geeky way :3

I guess my question is - what do you intend to do with it? the reason I ask is targeted at two things, being your memory and CPU choices - regarding the RAM:

• Windows is quite frankly 'Greedy' - if there's more RAM I generally find it will use it.
• Games are also getting more RAM hungry too
• RAM works better as a pair than a single channel

For those reasons, I'd either suggest going for a dual channel kit and aim for 16GB of RAM - it sounds like overkill, but that brings it in line with the rest of your spec.  Of course you might be stealing some RAM from your over one...

With regard to the CPU - there really is no good reason to go for an i7 for home users - in thread heavy applications they can provide some benefits however in most tasks you or I would do at home (eg. kicking ass on BF4 :3) it provides no benefit for a fairly hefty added cost. 

The other question is are you planning to overclock it - if not, don't worry about the -K.

If you want overclocking go for this:  http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=19390

If you don't then I'd suggest this: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=21695

The 4x90 series has only just come out so there's no 'K' version yet.

Everything else seems pretty good - It's pretty close to what I'd like, although I tend to spend too much on Holidays now to actually sink so much into a nice PC lol.  I have only got awesome things to say about Noctua and I've had a great run out of my Gigabyte Motherboards.

Oh last question - have you got an SSD? if not, get one :3

Quote from: Mojohaza1 on April 19, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
*waits for JC*

Hey I was on holiday n' stuff :3

I'm not overly familiar with Dayz personally, but in general Patty's suggestion is pretty good - it would give you a nice upgrade without having a ridiculously overspec'ed card relative to the rest of the system.  It's probably at or slightly above the 'recommended' spec in the screenshots provided.

Those 750/750 Ti's are amazingly efficient for the performance they supply, so you can normally get them without needing additional power connections.  Be careful with which one of them you get as I wouldn't guarantee that your current Power Supply would have a PCI-E power connector (which some 750 Ti's require, it depends what their specs are).

Here's a link to that card in the UK:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-750ti-pcie-30-5400mhz-gddr5-gpu-1020mhz-boost-1085mhz-cores-640-dport-dvi-hdmi

Note - before anyone goes 'AMD is better for that price' - yep, and they have drivers that make the Russian govt look reliable so I generally avoid them at all costs, they're also a lot less power efficient at that price point.

The only thing I would be worried about is the age of your computer - the i5-650 is getting pretty old now, so if you've got a ~300w ish power supply it might be worthwhile replacing it, if you've got anything less than 300w then I would say it definitely needs changing (the total watts supplied should be clearly printed on your PSU).  That could potentially add another 75 pounds ish for a decent one.

Quote from: Quikdrawjoe on December 24, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
Oh I'm a level 3 on OSRS also so we can all be noobs!

You'll always be a noob Joe, regardless of your level ##

Great to see yourself and Karl around Valdy - happy holidays to you and the family, I hope you enjoy your brief time back playing RS

Obviously that video has been made for entertainment rather than being a good overview of the many issues that result from different projection systems - it's something that I quite literally deal with every single day with my work.

It's not really worth going into detail about why it's just 'not that simple' to change things, I think this comic just about sums it up :3

Hey David,

Long time no see! glad to see you come back, must have been a couple of years since you've been around?

Quote from: David on September 07, 2013, 05:43:36 AM
I did get P2P for a month to check things out, and have like 15 in most of my melee stats. It's kind of depressing having maxed melee, ranged, 95 prayer and shit on RS3 and being a total scrub in RS07, haha.

I know that feeling, I gave 07' a go and gave up for exactly the same reason - it's hard to start again with a much better account in RS3 - I wish Jagex had let us keep our stats from back then, I'd be playing RS07 a lot more if that was the case :3

Quote from: DarkThief125 on July 27, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
I'm not that scary :(

If memory serves me correctly, I'm not sure I agree ;)

Good to see you Jason - it's been a while....

(Theevildead :3)

While I understand why there has been a large amount of drama recently regarding the invasion of privacy by NSA and all the above major corporations who are supporting this 'PRISM' initiative - I can't help but think all of the above suggestions need to come with a free tinfoil hat.

Yes the US government could do all of the above technically, but what the hell are you doing that they would want to do any of the above?

If the NSA want's to know what porn I watch, what games I play, what websites I commonly visit and what I do with my spare time they are entirely welcome to it - I honestly couldn't care what information they hold about me because at the end of the day I am sure there are many people out there who that they would be much more interested in than me - that's not about to change.

I'm not going to live in a pile of cotton wool and tinfoil, afraid to browse the internet, unable to keep in touch with my friends and family, resorting to using an incapable operating system just because there is the potential for the NSA to find out a bit of information about me.

I get the concern around this, but ultimately, I don't do anything worth spying on.....

Wow that's a familiar name :3

Hey Max, welcome back.

Quote from: Panda|Vulcan on May 30, 2013, 11:32:57 AM
Also why do you charge CE, the team you've been in for less than a month less than your own clan?

I think you'll find Vio means:

CE:  'Standard Price' less 50k eg. 150k
WG: 'Standard Price' less 100k eg. 100k

At least that's the way I read it :3

Quote from: Josheh on May 18, 2013, 03:31:50 AM
that 480gb SSD probs like $1500 alone.

It's actually 4 480 GB SSD's but they are alot cheaper than $1,500 each - SSD's have dropped in price recently:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233516

Still - the Raided SSD's are a cool $1,840 USD :o


Other than that, it's just a herp derp stupid computer that would be built from the concept of 'big (or: expensive) is better' :3

Dem return sets :3

Quote from: Mojohaza1 on May 04, 2013, 01:19:44 AM
how did u level rc in port?

You get RC xp for the magic gear, 10k per hood or something like that (and looks like Owen has 2 in inventory...)

Quote from: Asaad on May 02, 2013, 03:42:06 AM
Keep it up Owen!!!

Thats what she said ##

Quote from: Patty on April 19, 2013, 03:05:19 AM
:). JC, If you're reading this. I think it's time we make it offical babe! I mean wat :3.

Omy....

But yeah - if every politician's speeches were like that, surely people would pay a bit more attention to them? Maurice Williamson is pretty brilliant, I've seen speeches by him before and he always entertains :3

omfg it's a Vince :3

Quote from: Owen on March 07, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
Blog #1 07/03/2013

I got muted.

Trollface.jpg :3

Quote from: Wind_Arcus on February 08, 2013, 04:16:05 AM
No matter how legit this seems, its still looks fishy to me. Jagex has a perfectly good website to run polls and surveys if they need, they shouldn't need third party websites to run it. Second, it usually takes more then just a simple survey to give out 30 days of free membership, something definitely doesn't seem right.

In regard to using Surveymonkey to conduct 'non-general' polls - they have a history of doing this (why bother going to all the effort of setting up a survey system when people do a perfectly good job elsewhere) so I wouldn't consider that a sign of being fishy.