Programmers/Coders

[The Old Salt]

Are there any other coders and programmers in the clan?! Im a basic web developer with only knowledge in html css and javascript but currently learning to become a fully certified Full Stack Developer at the moment, plan to move on after that to either Java programming or Python, not really sure just yet which route I wanna take. Curious to chat with other coders!!

[am a panda]

Yeah we have a few I think. Not sure what “language” they use for want of a better phrase! @K1W1 @Jansen @Sticky and I’m sure others I can’t remember!

[K1W1]

I've been programming unprofessionally for 7 years, started with teaching myself Node.js as I stumbled to create unique features for Discord bots, picking up WG bot, making ChatLogger, RevCavePremium, RatCatcher9000 and other projects unrelated to Runescape. Talking about this skill alone in my interview landed me a job as an observability engineer with no degree and no professional experience. Since picking up this job I've learned Python, Bash, SPL, LogQL, SWQL, SQL, Regex etc. I wouldn't say I program "professionally" now as I really have no standards even when I program something at work since it's not really my job to, I just automate things as I see fit (mostly for my own gain)

I would highly recommend "Google IT Automation with Python Professional Certificate" on Coursera if you're going to jump into Python, I don't know a soul that uses or prefers Java anymore.

Fun fact: My very first program was a AutoHotKey green dragon bot when I was like 12, I followed a Youtube tutorial on how to make it recognize a colored pixel and click it

[The Old Salt]

Very nice!! Node.JS is one of the things my course has coming up soon actually! React, NPM, Express.JS is gonna be at the same time as Node, SQL and Mongo DB are a few others when I get into the back end section, Ahh Ill be honest the only reason I wanted Java was to make custom Minecraft plugins haha, A buddy of mine owns a server and I was looking to help him with some haha! I thought they used Java for the plugins :X The other languages I had interest in learning was C++ and C#, but I just want to get very comfortable with Javascript before I try to do that. 

 

Im hoping to land a better job as a back end programmer when Im done with this course, it teaches whats needed to be job ready. I dont have a great eye for design, so unless a company has a designer my front end skills end at the coding LOL. 

 

Ill check that out! I do want to learn Python, I know its very widely used in many aspects

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7 hours ago, K1W1 said:

I've been programming unprofessionally for 7 years, started with teaching myself Node.js as I stumbled to create unique features for Discord bots, picking up WG bot, making ChatLogger, RevCavePremium, RatCatcher9000 and other projects unrelated to Runescape. Talking about this skill alone in my interview landed me a job as an observability engineer with no degree and no professional experience. Since picking up this job I've learned Python, Bash, SPL, LogQL, SWQL, SQL, Regex etc. I wouldn't say I program "professionally" now as I really have no standards even when I program something at work since it's not really my job to, I just automate things as I see fit (mostly for my own gain)

I would highly recommend "Google IT Automation with Python Professional Certificate" on Coursera if you're going to jump into Python, I don't know a soul that uses or prefers Java anymore.

Fun fact: My very first program was a AutoHotKey green dragon bot when I was like 12, I followed a Youtube tutorial on how to make it recognize a colored pixel and click it

#botban, kthxbie  

[K1W1]

On 9/7/2023 at 1:50 PM, A7xPatriot said:

Very nice!! Node.JS is one of the things my course has coming up soon actually! React, NPM, Express.JS is gonna be at the same time as Node, SQL and Mongo DB are a few others when I get into the back end section, Ahh Ill be honest the only reason I wanted Java was to make custom Minecraft plugins haha, A buddy of mine owns a server and I was looking to help him with some haha! I thought they used Java for the plugins :X The other languages I had interest in learning was C++ and C#, but I just want to get very comfortable with Javascript before I try to do that. 

 

Im hoping to land a better job as a back end programmer when Im done with this course, it teaches whats needed to be job ready. I dont have a great eye for design, so unless a company has a designer my front end skills end at the coding LOL. 

 

Ill check that out! I do want to learn Python, I know its very widely used in many aspects

Keep in mind only half of the job or less is actually programming and knowledge based, sometimes we spend more time talking about something than actually working on it. A lot of companies (mine included) program mostly through mob programming as well, so it's more of a hivemind style of writing code instead of utilizing experts. Sometimes even business people partake in the mobbing sessions and being able to guide, teach, explain, and communicate effectively and pleasantly is more important than any technical ability.

That was the big realization when I finally landed a job in IT. And it ended up being a lot less professional, organized and efficient than I thought.

Also the best skill is learning how to learn in different ways, don't box yourself into a "I'm a more hands-on kind of learner" kind of mindset, resources for some things are extremely limited and confusing and you can't always set up a lab for everything. You need to have a good grasp of learning independently, being able to scout for your own resources, and learning in any form, whether it's lengthy reading, videos, labs, examples, man pages, demonstrations, esoteric scriptures, hand-written notes, dusty scrolls you find in the bathroom garbage etc.

[The Old Salt]

Wow good to know actually, Ive only ever done front end work, I do understand it being two very different jobs, front vs back end. Im excited to get into it still but honestly knowing its not balls to the wall sitting at my pc for 8+ hours a day is kinda nice, I enjoy coding but What you describe seems much more of a relaxed environment lol.

Yeah Its funny you say that cause I am a hands on learner haha, but I mean that in a very open kinda way, watching a video and doing it, reading and doing it, etc.. taking notes for me is an amazing way to retain stuff. Ive enjoyed reading coding blogs on LinkedIn and looking up questions on stack overflow and seeing what different kinds of answers some guys put out there.

[K1W1]

39 minutes ago, A7xPatriot said:

Wow good to know actually, Ive only ever done front end work, I do understand it being two very different jobs, front vs back end. Im excited to get into it still but honestly knowing its not balls to the wall sitting at my pc for 8+ hours a day is kinda nice, I enjoy coding but What you describe seems much more of a relaxed environment lol.

Yeah Its funny you say that cause I am a hands on learner haha, but I mean that in a very open kinda way, watching a video and doing it, reading and doing it, etc.. taking notes for me is an amazing way to retain stuff. Ive enjoyed reading coding blogs on LinkedIn and looking up questions on stack overflow and seeing what different kinds of answers some guys put out there.

Yeah I was in the same boat re: the hands on learning, but for certain internal things, newer things etc. the documentation and resources are very limited so be prepared to learn by reading your eyes out. Also be prepared to try to fix things without being able to test them. For example right now one of my tasks is to fix a custom script written by someone that left the company that was packaged into a .exe (so I have no clue what version it actually is, no clue if the way it was packaged is the same I expect to try it out) on a security server, to collect logs from a security database. Testing on my PC has been utterly useless and there are no dev/stage environments to test on either. I'm just trying to learn how SSL/TLS works to be sure about the moves I make with certificates, encryption etc.