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Posted: April 15, 2009 02:35 am  | |||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | Just a survey to gauge the level of satisfaction. I'm working on more events, more recruitment, more strength. Consider everything: Community, events, strength, skills, pride... --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 02:56 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | If you want this to be a straight-up poll without conversation, I give you full permission to delete this.  Otherwise, I'd like to explain my rating, because it was a little low.Highlight to Read: [HIGHLIGHT]Usually if someone just asks me to rate something, I take a quick look spin out a number and move on. But I've really come to hold WG to a much higher standard than I would anything else. As a clan, I think we're phenomenal. Great friendships, great community, very laid-back and willing to work with people to make the whole experience work for them. If this wasn't so important I'd just give it a 10 and move on. But there are other things that bother me, and have been bothering me for pretty much my entire stay here. One is the easy maintenance of the status quo. I'm an outsider really, that's just my personality. I've never held a leadership position and I doubt I ever will. I also would not presume to tell anyone how to do their jobs outside voicing my own opinion on the matter (take it or leave it more or less, although I can very vehement about it). The status quo. I hate it. I realize it's so much easier to lead when things are settled and in order, but I see it and all I see is WG stagnant in a muck pool. We're unwilling to war to the extent of alienating our own members but we're unwilling to back off warring enough to make skilling an aspect of the clan, and so we're stuck in limbo, doing everything and nothing and definitely getting nowhere at all. People think as long as we're not screaming and bitching the hell out of each other then everything's fine, but it's not! The underlying cause is still here and it'll come up and cause trouble as hit has for years until it's settled once and for all, either by kicking out the skillers or giving them back a place in WG. Burn out the rot in our guts, fix the boat and let's GO SOMEWHERE! It's because of this neglect and apparent unwillingness to take any initiative on a topic that I believe is absolutely essential to everyone in the clan that I rated this a 6/10.[/HIGHLIGHT] --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 02:59 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Hyperion Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1636 Member No.: 978 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141 | Edit: What Randy said. --------------------    Dragon boots:29 Whips:2 | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 03:06 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Voted. I'm very disappointed by the lack of effort to attend raids and (some) wars. I don't think pulling 7 people to a raid is acceptable in a clan this size, and then when we try to do some kind of activity boosting ideas they get ignored. Once people attend raids and we pull lots of people, they'll realize that they're fun. I wish people would try more. I'm happy with the community and the welcoming of new people. Not "everyone" ends up fitting into WG, but those who do stay a very long time. It's good to see a handful of members stick with us through the thick and thin, and try their best to make WG a better place. --------------------   | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 04:17 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Slayer123121 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 319 Member No.: 1753 Joined: March 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 12 | Under 5 for me, Many reasons, but all things put together i couldn't rate it more. Maybe it's becuase i've seen what Wg can achieve and been there when we we're a force. But the only thing going good atm is our Community, everything else is pretty poor atm, and can be uppded. --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 04:36 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | I'm actually pretty happy where we are right now, I voted 8. Love the community, events are original ideas, and I'm very proud to be in WG. Only downside is the whole skillers vs. warmongers, which seems to have died down. But its still there. Skillers feel inferior to the warmongers, its the way it always has been. Still, things are mostly good. --------------------   | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 04:41 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: dieyou2000 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 711 Member No.: 1300 Joined: August 28, 2008 Total Events Attended: 158 | Well I can't speak from a ton of clan experience like Slayer since I haven't even been here a year yet, but I think we are doing well in terms of community and skilling. Obviously we are very active in the JSC even if we don't win it, but the point is that people give up hours of their time to give WG a good standing and try their hardest. The thing I am most disappointed about is the same thing most others seem to be bothered by. We can't seem to have a raid of even 10 people without inviting several friends. We allied with TBE yesterday, and even then we had...what MAYBE 20 people? We could be a good p2p clan if people would just be open to some things, and realize that p2p pvp raids aren't as bad as they think. I think I've been to every single pvp event we've held in the past few months, except ones that were held during school, or aussie times. Of course I don't expect everybody to come to a raid, but when there are 30 people in the irc that all could easily come to a raid, it's a bit pathetic to see 5 people massing. I don't know what it will take to convince WG that p2p isn't some horrible deal where you lose 500k per death, and get owned by huge clans over and over, but if there is ANY WAY I'll get on it asap. I still strongly believe that while skilling can be a good part of a clan, warring is really what brings people close and strengthens bonds and trust. --------------------   | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 09:29 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | I wrote out a big post explaining what I think about WG, but all I was doing was rambling. I voted 7. I feel WG is doing well everywhere apart from attendance. I feel if we get good attendance to all events, and events create an atmosphere which attracts members (by creating a place where you enjoy the game without too much clicking, and can socialise and make new bonds with members), I think WG will be a much more complete place. Events need to be something members enjoy, rather than something which they need to graduate, or to keep them from being kicked. Events need to be something members would attend if attendance wasn't on offer. When WG's events are like the above, with 10 or more people attending every single skilling event, and more than 20 people attending every single raid, then WG will be a much better place. --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 09:32 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Ubg Fcbruges Group: Emeritus Posts: 1209 Member No.: 1373 Joined: October 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | A short answer: good community, kind of low in events like wars/pk's but the good efforts of the leadership makes it a better place to stay. --------------------  Portfolio ~~ WG Emeritus - 20 November 2010 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 10 November 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Emeritus - 2 July 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 27 February 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Guardian - 12 December 2008 ~~ ~~ WG Trial Guardian - 30 October 2008 ~~ | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 09:57 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | I agree with wayne. This clan has a lot of potential and a lot of effort has been put into it to make it work. Its also got a good atmosphere. However, there is a stagnancy which needs new life putting into it. The key thing for us to work on is events. More attendance, and a sustained variety of non-wilderness events is the way forward. How can we get more attendance? That's down to trial and error to discover really. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 10:49 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Fire Lion Sword Group: Emeritus Posts: 1189 Member No.: 103 Joined: January 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 3 | Rated 7 out of 10, solely from an RS-inactive perspective. I've never been an event-active member -- and, it goes without saying, I'm Emeritus. However, the primary reason I've stuck with this clan is because of the strong community. I've become familiar with a fundamental question: If things got ugly, would you stay? The fact that we can still hang out and chat like a bunch of assholes, to me, indicates a good relationship; good camaraderie. That being said, on the other hand, there does seem to be something lacking in the clan. The clan used to be so rich with pride and passion. Although we may not have been the most powerful clan in terms of game statistics, we had something many other clans didn't have: genuine spirit. I think it's still possible to unleash that same kind of clan spirit. The problem is finding what it takes to unleash it. I would suggest some solutions, but I'm Emeritus. There's only so much I can calculate in my current state. -------------------- --------- 獅の炎 ----------  ----------- 忍☯者 ----------- | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 12:45 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Slayer123121 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 319 Member No.: 1753 Joined: March 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 12 |
Ya this is what kinda influenced my low rating  We pull low Numbers yet some people won't/Dont wanna give P2P a go, Lower Numbers is more than Fine in P2p, you don't need hundred's of Opts in p2p to be good, hell it doesn't even take long to become good. Giving things a try is always good, hell i attend skill event's if i can yet i can't skill for shit  -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 01:36 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Olivier1o1 Group: Guest Posts: 208 Member No.: 1744 Joined: February 27, 2009 Total Events Attended: 17 | 8. I've been attending events and the like with WG, and finally got re-accepted as a member. From what I've seen I'm very happy, but not 10/10 happy. Then again, I havn't seen it all, so me voting in the poll really a fair way to gauge? I don't know. I did vote however. -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 03:14 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Ex-Member Posts: 201 Member No.: 1646 Joined: January 18, 2009 Total Events Attended: 6 | I voted 7. WG to me right now is very mediocre in all aspects outside of the community. -------------------- RSC Moderator  Originally Joined WG August 19, 2005  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 05:04 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | Voted, nothing really to add besides my already well known opinions.  -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 06:09 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Starzhine Group: Emeritus Posts: 447 Member No.: 218 Joined: February 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 |
Ditto, I am still holding my breath. Oh and well said!  --------------------  WG love forever, Kristy  | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 07:36 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 |
THATS WHY ITS OKAY TO HAVE SOME FUN AND MASS TB EVERYONE ONCE IN A WHILE! -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 08:11 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | 6 out of 10. NEGATIVITY ALERT! Do not read this section if you are weak. The community isn't what it used to be, but it's still good. We aren't as powerful as we used to be. I have disagreed with a few decisions made by council+ lately, but most of it was Mugger, so problem solved..lulz Most people are inactive. The sign-ups for the war vs. DF (a huge, important event) are disappointing. Like..20-30 people have posted some kind of reply, out of 66 members and 35-40 emeritus. Also, we're kind of a giant fucking joke among all the other clans of the clan world and it gets to me sometimes. Nobody respects us. BUT, the good side is that most of the problems in WG are easy fixes, or are being worked on right now. This clan has a lot of potential and if we don't do anything terribly stupid, we can grow into the powerful and fun-filled clan that we used to be. Good things: the website and forums of course, variety of events, people generally being friendly and helpful....blah blah blah..you know.. --------------------  Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 08:32 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 | 6/10 If everyone attends raids/wars then I would vote 9/10 or 10/10. --------------------    | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 08:32 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 | I voted 8. Even though this clan has many downs and things about PvPing with Raids & Wars, I think WG is the best clan out there. Therefor I don't think any clan does better than 8 on a scale from 1-10. We might not beat any clan in anything (meby skilling) in RuneScape, but we still have the community and spirit in the clan. That's why I'm here, that's why I stay. --------------------  Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||
Posted: April 15, 2009 10:24 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 |
Exactly what he said. Couldn't say it better myself.  --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 16, 2009 12:01 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mangomaniac2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 536 Member No.: 70 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 | Nulled my vote since I have been very inactive recently. Was thinking somewhere around a 7 or 8. Community is a big thing for me, and its what keeps me here, although things can always be worked on. --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 16, 2009 12:31 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: txtawkin/kathy Group: Ex-Member Posts: 847 Member No.: 1604 Joined: December 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 45 | I voted an 8 and was surprised to see that it was a commonly chosen vote. By listening in forums and in irc, I expected more low votes since I hear alot of complaining, especially about low turn out for raids. So, my assumption now is that even though there is plenty of complaining all around, most ppl must be generally happy with the clan overall, or it wouldn't have gotten so many 8s. Maybe some of you thrive on whining??? As for me, I enjoy the community and felt lost when the forum and irc were both down, and I do enjoy all the events, even the raids. I get pretty pissed off though when certain ppl, (glenn) are pretty dam rude (yeah you are) when you are on for a few minutes but can't plan on being on long enough to mass for an impromptu raid or event, or are just too tired at the end of a 10 hour workday to attend. I make most of the weekend raids and wars which are usually planned in advance. --------------------  | ||
Posted: April 16, 2009 12:51 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 |
Glenn isn't rude, he pro . I completely understand his frustration, (Note: This is not aimed at you Kathy, I understand you work long and hard and you do attend the more important stuff.) There is always some people that don't do anything PvP and always make up some lame ass excuse for it. And some even fake ping timeouts (Useph lmfao). It gets frustrating when you're warlord when nobody comes and pk's with you and you just get raped in the wildy and have no fun. More people at PvP events = more wins = more kills = more fun = more recruits = better weegee. -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 16, 2009 01:00 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | WG could win every PKRI and war, have a million members and 100% event attendance and we'd be no better off than we are now if we don't hammer out this skiller thing. -------------------- | ||
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