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IRC Nickname: |Jonny|
Group: Ex-Member
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Member No.: 1754
Joined: March 6, 2009
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Alright, so we had a war today against lnd.

I massed on time, geared up, followed made it until LND was there with us-then got cut.

I reworked my afternoon schedule for this war. There's shit I gotta get done today, but I postponed it so I could take part i nwhat would be my frist war in WG.

And i got cut.

I wasn't late like several people were. Peopel even volunteered to be cut.

But I got cut.

Now I wont even get attendance-this will be the 3rd event i've massed for, and rthe2nd i've been told i'll still get attendance for. I never eceived attendance for the first one. I even stayed to watch, and was the first kileldwhen the war was crashed.

On top of all else, Whizzy decided to start flaming me in IRC. She was totally out of line, and she refused to apologize.

I honestly don't know if i'm staying, due to Whizzy mainly, and the fact that i'll probably be denied attendance yet again. But yea, pretty much 95% Wizzy.

On top of all else, i've now been accused of flaming back.

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IRC Nickname: Hyperion
Group: Ex-Member
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Joined: June 23, 2008
Total Events Attended: 141

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

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IRC Nickname: [Randy]
Group: Raid Leader
Posts: 5065
Member No.: 16
Joined: December 29, 2007
Total Events Attended: 499

First, you will get attendance. You came.

Second, the cutting process is only there to benefit the clan, and unfortunately not everyone can make it. The cutting factors go Leaders -> on Teamspeak -> Binding -> Combat (if same, warring experience). There are rarely exceptions to this. If you're wondering why combat is a deciding factor, it's because (obviously) you'll do better with higher stats.

Third, flaming, no matter who, is out of line.

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IRC Nickname: |Jonny|
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 187
Member No.: 1754
Joined: March 6, 2009
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QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:04 pm)

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

I have war experience...What I don't have experience with is being cut.

Don't appreciate the spam replies, Havoc and Whizzy. ty.

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IRC Nickname: Lefty
Group: Emeritus
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Joined: June 30, 2008
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You will get attendance. Don't worry about that.
Also I have been cut multiple times in wars and I have even skipped hanging out with my girlfriend for one or two and have been cut. It is just something that is there and you can't really help the leader's decision.

Don't worry. Walk out of this with your chin up and just ignore what has happened.

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IRC Nickname: leecable
Group: Banned
Posts: 1938
Member No.: 410
Joined: April 1, 2008
Total Events Attended: 178

Deleted the shit posts. Honestly both of you, once more. And I will be seriously fucked off..

Yea like randy said, and I explained. You will get attenedence. So yea.

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IRC Nickname: Havochaha
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 2257
Member No.: 106
Joined: January 5, 2008
Total Events Attended: 113

Edited for sake of not being kicked ":D

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IRC Nickname: Hyperion
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QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:12 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:04 pm)

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

I have war experience...

Don't appreciate the spam replies, Havoc and Whizzy. ty.

Ok, how about this.

We have 1.5 + years warring with WG and we know the style of how WG works. We know peoples voices so we know who takes over when some body dies.
Plus no one know's how well you can tank or if you know exactly what to do. (My first tenk attempt is not an accurate representation of my skill)

It's like going to the ice cream store, and getting Mint chocolate chip, as opposed to some other no name ice cream. Even though the second may sound ok, you don't want to buy the whole cone because it may task like crap. Similarly, we would rather have you learn a bit first as to how we will be doing things, as opposed to just having to throw you into things if it can be prevented.

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IRC Nickname: Havochaha
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QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 09:21 pm)

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:12 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:04 pm)

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

I have war experience...

Don't appreciate the spam replies, Havoc and Whizzy. ty.

Ok, how about this.

We have 1.5 + years warring with WG and we know the style of how WG works. We know peoples voices so we know who takes over when some body dies.
Plus no one know's how well you can tank or if you know exactly what to do. (My first tenk attempt is not an accurate representation of my skill)

It's like going to the ice cream store, and getting Mint chocolate chip, as opposed to some other no name ice cream. Even though the second may sound ok, you don't want to buy the whole cone because it may task like crap. Similarly, we would rather have you learn a bit first as to how we will be doing things, as opposed to just having to throw you into things if it can be prevented.

Now i want ice cream really badly.

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Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009
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IRC Nickname: kenneth`
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Joined: July 28, 2009
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omg.

this aint bs.

you will get attendance, you showed up.

you wherent on ts as far as i saw?
lower cmb's get cut, we need highs lvl in a matched. this happens in every clan
if you cant live with this. there are 2 options:

1: go train your combat, you wont get cut

2: its for the benfit of the clan that you get cut, so we have an increased chance to win.
if you still dont see this is why you got cut after the above, you dont have the clan spirit.
no offence or w/e (and im sure i will get warn lvl for this) you should better leave then.

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also, i do not say that jess her flaming is apropiot or w/e you spell it. but, cmmn, going mental over a thing like being cutt of is bs

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IRC Nickname: |Jonny|
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 187
Member No.: 1754
Joined: March 6, 2009
Total Events Attended: 7

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:21 pm)

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:12 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:04 pm)

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

I have war experience...

Don't appreciate the spam replies, Havoc and Whizzy. ty.

Ok, how about this.

We have 1.5 + years warring with WG and we know the style of how WG works. We know peoples voices so we know who takes over when some body dies.
Plus no one know's how well you can tank or if you know exactly what to do. (My first tenk attempt is not an accurate representation of my skill)

It's like going to the ice cream store, and getting Mint chocolate chip, as opposed to some other no name ice cream. Even though the second may sound ok, you don't want to buy the whole cone because it may task like crap. Similarly, we would rather have you learn a bit first as to how we will be doing things, as opposed to just having to throw you into things if it can be prevented.

Fair enough, but I'd like to see some events for this. So far the only Wildy events iv'e seen were the Aussie Raid last sunday, which I couldn't go to cause of the time and havin to be up for duty; the steel war, which i couldn't participate in due to not being able to log into a pvp world, and being ignored for 10 minutes when asking HOW to log into a pvp world (and um..i asked right away, not possible for the war to have started the same second as everyone logged in tbh); and then the war today, which...well, it's pretty obvious what happened there.

I'd like to see some events for this learning you speak of. Maybe a WG Red v. Wg Blue during which we emphasize tactics, tecniques, teach how to tank and hug, and just get in some good practice in general. Good for peopel like myself who don't have WG War experience.

I'd be happy to plan this, or even to help host it, if you'll let me know-I have more Event Coordination exp than anything else.

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IRC Nickname: Hyperion
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 1636
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Joined: June 23, 2008
Total Events Attended: 141

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:28 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:21 pm)

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:12 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:04 pm)

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

I have war experience...

Don't appreciate the spam replies, Havoc and Whizzy. ty.

Ok, how about this.

We have 1.5 + years warring with WG and we know the style of how WG works. We know peoples voices so we know who takes over when some body dies.
Plus no one know's how well you can tank or if you know exactly what to do. (My first tenk attempt is not an accurate representation of my skill)

It's like going to the ice cream store, and getting Mint chocolate chip, as opposed to some other no name ice cream. Even though the second may sound ok, you don't want to buy the whole cone because it may task like crap. Similarly, we would rather have you learn a bit first as to how we will be doing things, as opposed to just having to throw you into things if it can be prevented.

Fair enough, but I'd like to see some events for this. So far the only Wildy events iv'e seen were the Aussie Raid last sunday, which I couldn't go to cause of the time and havin to be up for duty; the steel war, which i couldn't participate in due to not being able to log into a pvp world, and being ignored for 10 minutes when asking HOW to log into a pvp world (and um..i asked right away, not possible for the war to have started the same second as everyone logged in tbh); and then the war today, which...well, it's pretty obvious what happened there.

I'd like to see some events for this learning you speak of. Maybe a WG Red v. Wg Blue during which we emphasize tactics, tecniques, teach how to tank and hug, and just get in some good practice in general. Good for peopel like myself who don't have WG War experience.

I'd be happy to plan this, or even to help host it, if you'll let me know-I have more Event Coordination exp than anything else.

1) Not being able to log into a pvp world....? Uh.... Everyone can log into it....so i have no idea what your talking about

2)I'll get leecable to set up and event such as the red vs blue you speak of.

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IRC Nickname: Owennnn
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QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 09:28 pm)

I'd like to see some events for this learning you speak of. Maybe a WG Red v. Wg Blue during which we emphasize tactics, tecniques, teach how to tank and hug, and just get in some good practice in general. Good for peopel like myself who don't have WG War experience.

Once we have more raid leaders this will happen a lot more

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IRC Nickname: [Randy]
Group: Raid Leader
Posts: 5065
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Joined: December 29, 2007
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QUOTE (Bassism @ September 15, 2009 05:33 pm)

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 09:28 pm)

I'd like to see some events for this learning you speak of. Maybe a WG Red v. Wg Blue during which we emphasize tactics, tecniques, teach how to tank and hug, and just get in some good practice in general. Good for peopel like myself who don't have WG War experience.

Once we have more raid leaders this will happen a lot more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-BklJd0AY

May this be a start

yay view count

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IRC Nickname: |Jonny|
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QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:32 pm)

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:28 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:21 pm)

QUOTE (Imperator07 @ September 15, 2009 04:12 pm)

QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 15, 2009 04:04 pm)

My god. I love you as a trial guardian, and your a awesome guy.... BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE! ESPECIALLY ME!

But i've told you 3 times. You will get attendance, no one ever said you wouldn't be. BTO said it, Leecable said it. Now i've said 4 times.

And you got cut b/c you're level 104, with very little current war experience, as opposed to say o.....me. Who's 118, with 1.5 years or warring experiance, or jess, who's 126 and was raid leader.

It happens, and it happened to be too (Second war)

I have war experience...

Don't appreciate the spam replies, Havoc and Whizzy. ty.

Ok, how about this.

We have 1.5 + years warring with WG and we know the style of how WG works. We know peoples voices so we know who takes over when some body dies.
Plus no one know's how well you can tank or if you know exactly what to do. (My first tenk attempt is not an accurate representation of my skill)

It's like going to the ice cream store, and getting Mint chocolate chip, as opposed to some other no name ice cream. Even though the second may sound ok, you don't want to buy the whole cone because it may task like crap. Similarly, we would rather have you learn a bit first as to how we will be doing things, as opposed to just having to throw you into things if it can be prevented.

Fair enough, but I'd like to see some events for this. So far the only Wildy events iv'e seen were the Aussie Raid last sunday, which I couldn't go to cause of the time and havin to be up for duty; the steel war, which i couldn't participate in due to not being able to log into a pvp world, and being ignored for 10 minutes when asking HOW to log into a pvp world (and um..i asked right away, not possible for the war to have started the same second as everyone logged in tbh); and then the war today, which...well, it's pretty obvious what happened there.

I'd like to see some events for this learning you speak of. Maybe a WG Red v. Wg Blue during which we emphasize tactics, tecniques, teach how to tank and hug, and just get in some good practice in general. Good for peopel like myself who don't have WG War experience.

I'd be happy to plan this, or even to help host it, if you'll let me know-I have more Event Coordination exp than anything else.

1) Not being able to log into a pvp world....? Uh.... Everyone can log into it....so i have no idea what your talking about

2)I'll get leecable to set up and event such as the red vs blue you speak of.

When i tried logging in to the actual war world, it said i had to log in from a safe area when logging in to pvp worlds. Didn't know this until Joe finally spoke up. War was over by the time i got logged in.

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I'm really sorry to hear you got cut Imp, you sound like a good guy from what I've heard. Truth is though, at some time or another, everyone gets cut because levels really do make a difference. Even I have been cut, when i was 123 combat with 6 months warring experience (much more now

)because someone else had a better agility than me.

we also RARELY do matched opts fights like this. I don't expect us to have another one for a while. Also, by training combat, you are more likely to get into the war. Take Mickey (maddness990) for example, he started out getting cut like 3 wars in a row, I think he even nearly left as a result of it once (not sure though), but he trained a lot and a year later he was a Raid leader (very good one too).

Guess what I'm trying to say is don't give up, there'll be other fights, and you will get a chance to help WG on the warring front.

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IRC Nickname: Jenny
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Don't give up Imp..you can do this.
I was in the very first war WG ever fought, in the famous DoA war, and many raids.
You get better with practice and training your combat.

As for the flaming that was going on, there is absolutely no excuse for it.
Whizzy used to be a raid leader, but apparently has lost her ability to
offer encouragement.
Don't give her another thought.
I believe in you, and that you will make it.
Keep up the faith.

Jenny

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Jenny is right on. Don't give up. I've gotten cut many times and will volunteer to let others war instead of me often. The order of cutting has to do with TS, then binds, then combat, and then war experience in WG. (At least that is how it always seems to break down.)

I'm glad I didn't see the flaming cause I would be extremely disappointed in it. Tempers flair and words go spoken that should of been kept silent. Apologizing and forgiveness is the best thing. I hope this will happen.

A post like this is important to us. It gives a view of how others might see things.

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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

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dude, I was cut my first like 5 wars. It's totally normal. You just gotta realize that there is room for improvement, and get 'er done. I trained a bit and in no time I was slayin nubz wiff ma homiez.

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IRC Nickname: Owennnn
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I've never been cut.

There's a reason for it.

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why do you think I have 99 agility?
Ok fine the real reason is I wanted the cool cape.

If you want to war more you have to get the levels and the experience. Most people get cut their first few wars (assuming you outpull the other clan)

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IRC Nickname: Kiwi011
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who cares about attendance and since when has it mattered in a realistic since, its semi-important but its not a huge deal.

Next is your level 104 and your brand new, in a war setting knowing that you will be dependable and not snipe when ur not told too etc is some other things, annnnd you probably arent very used to tanking yet.....sorry but tis the truth.

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QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ September 15, 2009 08:40 pm)

who cares about attendance and since when has it mattered in a realistic since, its semi-important but its not a huge deal.

Next is your level 104 and your brand new, in a war setting knowing that you will be dependable and not snipe when ur not told too etc is some other things, annnnd you probably arent very used to tanking yet.....sorry but tis the truth.

The attendance part comes from him needing to get his 5 events.

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Attendance will come. It takes some time to update it.

As for getting cut, you have to realize that the other 20 people there also took time out of their real lives to come themselves.

Teamspeak is critical to being able to fight. Without teamspeak, we'd get railed every single time against the same tier clans.

It was the same reason Obi was cut right off the bat. No teamspeak = no fight.

Our priority is basically:
Leaders - > Teamspeak - > Hybrids/Combat -> Experience

You were not on teamspeak, which is probably the most critical part. You were also lower leveled in comparision to the others. As for experience, I dont really know how experienced you are because I havent seen it yet. But the fact is, you never got to the Hybrids/Combat/Experience stage because you werent on teamspeak.

As for Whizzy, she was talked to on teamspeak while we were cutting.

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IRC Nickname: Kiwi011
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QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 16, 2009 02:24 am)

QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ September 15, 2009 08:40 pm)

who cares about attendance and since when has it mattered in a realistic since, its semi-important but its not a huge deal.

Next is your level 104 and your brand new, in a war setting knowing that you will be dependable and not snipe when ur not told too etc is some other things, annnnd you probably arent very used to tanking yet.....sorry but tis the truth.

The attendance part comes from him needing to get his 5 events.

can't you still be vouched for(being at the event)? seriously.

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