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Posted: February 2, 2010 02:54 pm  | |||||||||
      IRC Nickname: `Nath Group: Guest Posts: 1897 Member No.: 1873 Joined: May 11, 2009 Total Events Attended: 70    | As there are many problems with Mumble and such i was just curious as to what the clan thinks about what Audio we should use, if i was a new trial guardians trying to join this clan and set up mumble and found that it would refuse the simpliest of tasks i'd be pretty put off from continuing to be an active part of the clan if you can't listen or access the audio. What do you think we should use? Personally think TS2 as fine when i was an active member so if Ts3 is better i'd be using that. --------------------
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Posted: February 2, 2010 03:27 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | Not really sure why people have mumble issues, it works great for me. However I still like ventrilo the best. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 03:36 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | Just because Mumble works, doesn't mean to say that it's good enough. Most clans are switching to TS3 for a reason. All I'm going to say. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 05:33 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
This, nobody uses Mumble and nobody wants to. We might as well share TS's vent since we never use our mumble but always their vent. If we used TS3 or even vent things would be a lot easier. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 05:57 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Frozen 10 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1169 Member No.: 1413 Joined: October 28, 2008 Total Events Attended: 67 | I have no problem with all these programs. And Mumble is fine imo. I'm glad we're using Mumble instead of TS2, but TS3 is out now, so... I know that Ventrillo is quit expensive, dunno about TS3. But someone has to pay for it. -------------------- Expect the Unexpected.  Control your life through insanity. Trial Guardian since 05/22/09 Guardian since 06/16/09 Higher Guardian since 07/22/09 Ex-Member since 03/02/10 Trial Guardian since 09/22/10 Guardian since 10/19/10 | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 06:00 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Ts3 is cool but it's still VERY UNSTABLE. Ask The Sabres. They used Ts3 but have now moved BACK to Vent due to TS3's instability - it kept crashing during their wars. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 06:20 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 |
Was because of there host, not the program. AF had the same problem, changed hosts and its fine now. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 07:19 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: `Nath Group: Guest Posts: 1897 Member No.: 1873 Joined: May 11, 2009 Total Events Attended: 70 | Ts3 is fine, if robbie can work wonders with Mumble imagine how easy it would be to work with Ts3 --------------------
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Posted: February 2, 2010 07:35 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | vent>all, just disable text to speech and your set. --------------------  | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 07:50 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 |
Robbie can host it on the WG server, and I have a licence, so it wouldn't cost WG anything, besides the costs to run the VPS itself. As for instability, it's more than likely that the hosts' servers suck, and not the actual program. If we did go to TS3, can we go without the forum auth? It's kinda sad that terts don't have power over normal members on TS. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 08:55 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
LND has had no trouble with TS3. The only issue some people has is running as Administrator (have to run as that for it to save stuff) which only requires a right click. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 11:05 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 |
Yeah the thing where it connects iwth the forums accounts is gay and unuseful for allies. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 11:14 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 |
Ahhh, that would explain it. I wasn't aware of that. In that case, YAH TS3 RULEZ. The only problem is that Robbie is now really busy irl with work, college, etc.... and he spent so much time on Mumble  -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: February 2, 2010 11:27 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | Vent or TS3 If TS3 is unstable, vent will probably be the way to go. -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 01:02 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Brian|30 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 565 Member No.: 1547 Joined: December 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 75 | Vent is really stable and easy to use (or at least figure out). I've had some terrible experiences with quality with TS2, and I'm iffy on whether TS3 is gonna be that much greater. Mumble, the program itself, I like. It's just we have a lot of problems with people getting in with the auto register thing and everything... I picked Vent. -------------------- Dragon Claws Drops: 1 2 Dragonic Visage Drops: 1 Ruined Dragon Drops: 1 Abyssal Whip Drops: 1 2 | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 02:09 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mmangler Group: Emeritus Posts: 1595 Member No.: 1580 Joined: December 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 165 | Aarg too technical for me. Voted. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 02:14 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
Partially because they don't make accounts which is part of the problem. The current system is great for security for members but is crap for anything else, ie. allies, allied events, etc. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 03:09 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st Group: Founder Posts: 770 Member No.: 2 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 49 |
To be honest, they can login with the server password "WgFtw", just like on TS. I'm sure I told someone about this... --------- Two things: One - I'm not as "into" mumble as I was at one time, and I'd probably switch if I found a good enough reason to do so. However... As of right now, I haven't seen any dire need to switch. The last war? It did fine. I was there the entire time, no dropouts and everything worked fine. Not to mention, most of the "glitches" I've been told about recently(people not being able to login, etc), are due more to stupidity and lack of common sense than any problem with Mumble. For example, Mango was having trouble logging in. I checked, I could see him logging in with the correct user and the password he said was correct. However, the password didn't authenticate. I asked him to log out of the forums and back in.... "hey, I can't get in!" Uh, duh... you were using the wrong password. I changed his password, he logged into the forums and Mumble fine. Another user kept having an error, and his password was correct. Comes to find out, he copy-pasted the password... with the newline character at the end. *sigh* I assume that the other few people who are having trouble logging in are having the same type of problems. The one problem I am worried about is that at one point, Lordy and others were having trouble with PTT. However, it seems to have worked properly at the War(didn't sound like voice-activation)... On top of that, I don't have too much time to deal with the forums. I have enough that if Mumble didn't work at all, I could probably do something(but it would probably be down for a week or two)... but if it works decently, I'm not going to mess with it. -------------------- Old Avatar - Paypal donation link  I am left handed, and proud of it! Retired from RuneScape. Old forum posts: 2275(s4+s10+wg.com)+1759(z6 old account)+474(z6 new account) Total: 4508 Join date: 4/16/05 | Get Firefox 3.5 now: http://www.getfirefox.com | RobbieSwich for Firefox | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 05:15 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | Other than the fact of it not being that functional for allied events, what are the minuses about Mumble? Just wondering. I am fine with whatever we go to. --------------------      | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 06:09 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st Group: Founder Posts: 770 Member No.: 2 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 49 |
You know, especially with the newly-added fact that we can allow anyone in with a simple server key... why -can't- it be used for allied events? -------------------- Old Avatar - Paypal donation link I am left handed, and proud of it! Retired from RuneScape. Old forum posts: 2275(s4+s10+wg.com)+1759(z6 old account)+474(z6 new account) Total: 4508 Join date: 4/16/05 | Get Firefox 3.5 now: http://www.getfirefox.com | RobbieSwich for Firefox | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 06:41 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 | I like the overlay on Mumble. I'm also fine with whatever we go to, but of all 3 options, I have tried them, and TS3 seems the best, so that's what I voted for. --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 06:46 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 |
You have to look at what the majority of other clans are using. How many of our allies are going to be interested in downloading and some-what configuring Mumble? If The Sabres use Vent, and we use Vent, all it takes is a quick server change, rather than a complete program change. That is why I say it isn't functional for an allied event. Remember back when our TS server had issues. We were able to use TBE's because all it took was finding out their details. If only Mumble and TS and/or Vent had servers that worked on a combination of clients. I don't mind Mumble at all. I have never used Vent or TS3, so I can't compare. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 08:45 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 |  Is Mumble even capable of half that? Aswell as that, TS3 is alot more user friendly than Mumble. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 11:13 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | It is all fine to voice what you "want" but I think Mumble covers the "need" part for us atm. Mumble doesn't cost anything and it works with a few exceptions that Robbie has now worked out. The quality of the sound is fine. TS3 may be awesome and offer 50 mil options and extras but do we "need" all that? I think for the moment we need to stick with Mumble. Maybe, when Robbie is free from his other things he will look at the options for us. I can probably list the people who hang out everyday on Mumble with me. I didn't see their comments as negative. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||||||
Posted: February 3, 2010 11:53 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 |
Mickey has a TS3 server we can use for free, so cost is not a problem. -------------------- | ||||||||
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