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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:12 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli
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You dont need to hear my reasons, they have all been exprssed before. Nobody listened, nothing happened i've given up. To top it off there some people i can't stand, i'll only interfere causing rage.


Good bye all those i like/love, certainly wont be deleting you.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:15 amTop
   
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You know I won't be deleting you. wub.gif
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
~~Colin Powell ~~

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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:24 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Imbryanman
Group: Higher Guardian
Posts: 335
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Joined: November 15, 2009
Total Events Attended: 90
ummm...Vodka
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:26 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli
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Not even drunk bryan. Besides if i dont leave i'll prolly get a pointless suspension/ban for speaking the mind of most WG members.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:27 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Imbryanman
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Another Qualude, youll love me in the morning
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:33 amTop
   
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Billyy no sad.gif
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:51 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Billy @ February 06, 2010 08:26 pm)
Not even drunk bryan. Besides if i dont leave i'll prolly get a pointless suspension/ban for speaking the mind of most WG members.

Go ahead and say it. Just propose it in a nice manner. Leaving won't fix anything for the clan, and if you really cared for the clan you would risk your membership just to make it better. Trust me; I have said a lot of stuff that the vast majority didn't like, even calling out all staff members at one point in time.

If you get banned for the truth, then those that ban you need to be banned themselves.

I honestly do not respect this decision at all. I know how things can get shitty around here with no one listening to your ideas, but you have to stick through it, and get a bit dirty so that people recognize what you are saying.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 01:59 amTop
   
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Meh, can't really blame you even though it's a serious blow to the clan. sad.gif Take care, stay in touch.

I'll just quote from January 3rd. Note that it's coming from a topic created by someone with similar concerns, and who happened to leave a few weeks later as well.

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(...) most of the clans out there specialize in PKing. Some of them specialize in skilling. Nobody really claims doing both anymore...

Whatever is needed to improve in warring, it starts in a redefinition of the whole purpose of WG.

WG's a very old clan, with outdated credos and even an outdated name. If we specialize, it'll mean a chance for improvement.
If we specialize, it'll also mean putting ourselves at risk: we would be making WG no different than all the other clans out there.

Once we specialize, it would mean not doing it the half-assed way. It'd mean giving up a lot of what WG has been about. It should be a WG v.2.0.

But radical changes in WG are always an enormous risk. Beware of the pedobear - what he wants is his clan to survive. And he'll go great lengths to ensure it stays the way he wants it. Even if it means dumping half the clan, or more...

This pattern is constantly coming back:

- a knot of dedicated, active, war-skilled pkers tries pulling a thoroughly inactive WG to clanworld standards

- officials try to radicalize WG by specializing it in PKing

- lordy comes back from inactivity and brings out the big guns (all the clan history parts where "His Lordship puts the clan back on track")

- the knot of skilled pkers leave to top clans

- and we're back to the starting point

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Without this cycle, if WG had specialized and kept all it's skilled pkers, WG could have over 60 active 120+.

Thus caution is much needed at the moment: make sure to keep unity in transition.


Choice time.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:02 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Billy @ February 07, 2010 01:26 am)
Not even drunk bryan. Besides if i dont leave i'll prolly get a pointless suspension/ban for speaking the mind of most WG members.

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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:02 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Nick @ February 07, 2010 01:51 am)
QUOTE: Billy February 06, 2010 08:26 pm
Not even drunk bryan. Besides if i dont leave i'll prolly get a pointless suspension/ban for speaking the mind of most WG members.

Go ahead and say it. Just propose it in a nice manner. Leaving won't fix anything for the clan, and if you really cared for the clan you would risk your membership just to make it better. Trust me; I have said a lot of stuff that the vast majority didn't like, even calling out all staff members at one point in time.

If you get banned for the truth, then those that ban you need to be banned themselves.

I honestly do not respect this decision at all. I know how things can get shitty around here with no one listening to your ideas, but you have to stick through it, and get a bit dirty so that people recognize what you are saying.

The only person that needs to know all i have to say knows, posting everything i need to say here will create mass flaming etc. And tbh i've risked being banned by saying everything alot of members feel to this 1 person. Personally i dont think posting in here is a good idea at all, if you really wish to know pm me.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:11 amTop
   


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BILLY
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:22 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli
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Randy baby.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:26 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Billy @ February 07, 2010 02:02 am)
QUOTE: Nick February 07, 2010 01:51 am
       
QUOTE: Billy  February 06, 2010 08:26 pm
Not even drunk bryan. Besides if i dont leave i'll prolly get a pointless suspension/ban for speaking the mind of most WG members.

Go ahead and say it. Just propose it in a nice manner. Leaving won't fix anything for the clan, and if you really cared for the clan you would risk your membership just to make it better. Trust me; I have said a lot of stuff that the vast majority didn't like, even calling out all staff members at one point in time.

If you get banned for the truth, then those that ban you need to be banned themselves.

I honestly do not respect this decision at all. I know how things can get shitty around here with no one listening to your ideas, but you have to stick through it, and get a bit dirty so that people recognize what you are saying.

The only person that needs to know all i have to say knows, posting everything i need to say here will create mass flaming etc. And tbh i've risked being banned by saying everything alot of members feel to this 1 person. Personally i dont think posting in here is a good idea at all, if you really wish to know pm me.

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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:44 amTop
   


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I hope you don't leave, but however i assume that your mind is made, all the best.

P.S Tell me if you delete me though. frown.gif
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 02:57 amTop
   
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Webberson, na, like i said all those i love wont be getting deleted smile.gif
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 03:05 amTop
   
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If you don't leave I'll stroke ur nuts. lal

But seriously I wish you'd reconsider... what happened today didn't really seem like that big of an issue. Things like that will happen, but it's really not something to leave a clan over. I may not know the whole story, and I know you have other reasons as well, but TBH I think it would be better if you sit on it for a couple of days to see if it's really what you want to do. If not... I wish you well in whatever you do from here on out smile.gif
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 03:28 amTop
   
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Sorry no you're not leaving. I can imagine why you are there, I'm just as frustrated as you, but I'm still here.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 04:13 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Chimpy @ February 06, 2010 10:28 pm)
Sorry no you're not leaving. I can imagine why you are there, I'm just as frustrated as you, but I'm still here.

Chimpy for bossy. You go girl thats how you get things done blink.gif
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 10:05 amTop
   
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Oh Billy sad.gif

Probably in all honesty I could guess what this all relates too, as the Chimpeh said it's not only you who is frustrated, think it over and then come to the right conclusion.

We still wubs you anyway.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 10:09 amTop
   
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know exactly why you are leaving and i havnt even been here.

its a fair reason and it shits me that it happens.

dont blame ya for wanting to leave, and now you see why i am leaving smile.gif
 
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This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!



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Posted: February 7, 2010 10:14 amTop
   
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Goodbye.
You CAN voice yourself but you have to learn that flaming someone isn't the way to do it and that is why you received 20% warn.
Although... leaving just like this really does demonstrate your commitment.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 10:22 amTop
   
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PM me too? wub.gif
 
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[05:42] <%kat> same

Posted: February 7, 2010 10:49 amTop
   
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QUOTE: George @ February 07, 2010 10:14 am)
Goodbye.
You CAN voice yourself but you have to learn that flaming someone isn't the way to do it and that is why you received 20% warn.
Although... leaving just like this really does demonstrate your commitment.

Gorge check through the last month or 2's recaps, that's commitment, showing up for things when i already have plans, that's commitment. Speaking the mind of many because they don't want to get in trouble, that's commitment.

I just had to lol at the 20% and ban from everything.


Gorge: 363 days as council, woop make a big deal out of it yay.
Me: You haven't done anything for 362 of them days.
Gorge: You should be setting an example blablabla.
Me: I could say the same for you.



Most people would look at that and say trolling lol.

But whatever Gorge, have your glory, you really deserve it!
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 11:18 amTop
   
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So I haven't done anything in 362 days?
Ask around mate. Ask around.
 
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Posted: February 7, 2010 11:26 amTop
   
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QUOTE: George @ February 07, 2010 11:18 am)
So I haven't done anything in 362 days?
Ask around mate. Ask around.

Wow, somebody as immature should have been able to sense the sarcasm in the comment. WOW

I like how you had the balls and the decency to respond to the pm, probably because you know all that was said, was true.
 
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