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 I have a Dream
 
Quikdrawjoe
Posted: February 26, 2010 02:40 amTop
   


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 Many of you see training as this never ending cycle of boredom and depression at the end of which if you survive people might stop telling you to train combat. I have one simple request after which I will never bother a person about training (except Lee for obvious reasons). It may seem an impossible and daunting task to achieve so below I shall outline my dream of what every member shall have reached by the time they have spent 6 months in WG:

100%:
85+ attack
85+ strength
85+ hitpoints
90+ defense
70+ prayer
70 range

75%:
90+ attack
90+ strength
90+ hitpoints
99 defense
80+ prayer


50%:
95+ attack
95+ strength
95+ defense
95+ hitpoints
94+ magic
80+ range

25%:
99 attack
99 strength
99 defense
99 hitpoints
99 defense
99 magic

1%:
99 attack
99 strength
99 defense
99 hitpoints
99 defense
99 prayer
99 magic
99 range

It's entirely possibly with enough effort to reach max melee in 3 months max. I don't expect that, just reaching the 100% dream would be enough. Don't stretch yourself too far, take it one step at a time, and in no time you'll find yourself among that 1%. There are plenty of people in WG who can help you reach these goals. Be it the maxed people who can give advice, the rich who can loan items, or the skillers who provide the materials. Stop TALKING about your dedication to WG and start SHOWING it.

Ask not what WG can do for you, but instead what can you do for WG.
 
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Bambaleo
Posted: February 26, 2010 02:49 amTop
   
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Quikdrawjoe
Posted: February 26, 2010 02:51 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Bambaleo @ February 26, 2010 02:49 am)
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If a man says he can't do something, he can't do it. If a man says he can do something, then he can.
 
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Kyle
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:03 amTop
   
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 I'm halfway between 75% and 50%, I have all of 50%, just 84 prayer. Training non-melee skills suck when you have no cash.
 
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Quikdrawjoe
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:14 amTop
   


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 It's called Soul Wars or Pest Control.
 
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sgtswordfish
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:46 amTop
   
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 this is possible indeed.

for lvl 99 prayer merchanting is a must. one cannot go about making millions without investing gp.


 
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Posted: February 26, 2010 03:54 amTop
   
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Posted: February 26, 2010 08:55 amTop
   
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 would be good, it isnt that hard to train.
 
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Posted: February 26, 2010 09:26 amTop
   
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 I've got all but the 99 defense in your 100 percent plan.

Let's not talk about how long it will take me, but I think eventually . . .
 
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JC
Posted: February 26, 2010 09:37 amTop
   
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 Frankly, I would rather see a realistic expectation rather than posts like this where you are suggesting people pretty much no-life combat from the moment they join this clan.

I would suggest that you didn't even get close to your 50-75% goals within your first 6 months in WG, and yes, I will admit that there is a larger variety of quick training methods out these days to max out but that does not mean such unrealistic expectations should be lumped on members.

I agree that more onus should be placed on lower leveled members to train up over time, however forcing them (saying things such as "low levels are crap, useless" etc.) is not the way to go about it. Positive reinforcement such as awards and rewards are the method I would recommend, using something like "Combat gain of the month" covering the whole clan, and "Under 110 Combat gain of the month" to encourage people to put in a bit of effort and train their combat.

I cannot stress it enough. Criticizing people because their combat level is below what you would 'like' to see is NOT the way to go about it as this inevitably leads to a drop in morale for not only the member who's being targeted, but also a drop in morale for the rest of the clan.

I really think this 'dream' is unrealistic.
 
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WG_Keanu
Posted: February 26, 2010 10:12 amTop
   
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 Your dream is to make WG a powerhouse then?
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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Quikdrawjoe
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:24 pmTop
   


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QUOTE: JC @ February 26, 2010 09:37 am)
Frankly, I would rather see a realistic expectation rather than posts like this where you are suggesting people pretty much no-life combat from the moment they join this clan.

I would suggest that you didn't even get close to your 50-75% goals within your first 6 months in WG, and yes, I will admit that there is a larger variety of quick training methods out these days to max out but that does not mean such unrealistic expectations should be lumped on members.

I agree that more onus should be placed on lower leveled members to train up over time, however forcing them (saying things such as "low levels are crap, useless" etc.) is not the way to go about it. Positive reinforcement such as awards and rewards are the method I would recommend, using something like "Combat gain of the month" covering the whole clan, and "Under 110 Combat gain of the month" to encourage people to put in a bit of effort and train their combat.

I cannot stress it enough. Criticizing people because their combat level is below what you would 'like' to see is NOT the way to go about it as this inevitably leads to a drop in morale for not only the member who's being targeted, but also a drop in morale for the rest of the clan.

I really think this 'dream' is unrealistic.

6 months to achieve what I'm asking doesn't require that much effort from a requirement of 100 combat to join. This is in no way a criticism it's a goal for people to strive for rather than just being told train train train. They know what to aim for rather than just running around blindly. Your attitude is what kills morale, instead of saying poor low levels big mean Joe bullying you they should be encouraged to train instead of going oh it's ok you're a low level just ignore him. Just reaching 100%, would require about 100k exp per day. Assuming one trained all stats so that they would reach them all at the same time from level 70 (the lowest level in WG I could find). So next time maybe think about what you're saying than just treating this like a stereotypical low levels train.

@Sgtswordfish, I reached 99 prayer from 70 in 2 months using Soul Wars, money is not an excuse.

@Keanu, if I wanted a powerhouse it would be 1% in 6 months.
 
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sgtswordfish
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:25 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: WG_Keanu @ February 26, 2010 05:12 am)
Your dream is to make WG a powerhouse then?

powerhouse = more wars = more chances to win = win?
 
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Quikdrawjoe
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:26 pmTop
   


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 I've even changed it so it's even easier now.

The new plan for 100% requires:

12,296,804 defense exp
2,520,967 attack exp
2,520,967 strength exp
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103,206 exp per day.



Say you played 5 hours a day, that would be 20k exp per hour. You can do that in f2p.
 
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WG_Keanu
Posted: February 26, 2010 03:30 pmTop
   
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 Well, as long as I am not required to do anything, good luck.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same
sgtswordfish
Posted: February 26, 2010 05:08 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ February 26, 2010 10:26 am)
I've even changed it so it's even easier now.

The new plan for 100% requires:

12,296,804 defense exp
2,520,967 attack exp
2,520,967 strength exp
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103,206 exp per day.



Say you played 5 hours a day, that would be 20k exp per hour. You can do that in f2p.

add strength potions to the equation and pray. trout instead of salmon and train @ giant spiders in f2p.


 
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Chimpy
Posted: March 1, 2010 02:27 amTop
   
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QUOTE: WG_Keanu @ February 26, 2010 10:30 am)
Well, as long as I am not required to do anything, good luck.

KEanu I respect you training an acc from the ground up and everything but now just scraping by doing the bare minimum isn't helping WG any.
 
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sgtswordfish
Posted: March 1, 2010 03:14 amTop
   
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 neither is stating the obvious mr. obvious =D

i've spoken to quickdrawjoe about this dream. it ultimately is just wishful thinking
 
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Jayson
Posted: March 1, 2010 03:58 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Chimpy @ March 01, 2010 01:27 pm)
QUOTE: WG_Keanu February 26, 2010 10:30 am
Well, as long as I am not required to do anything, good luck.

KEanu I respect you training an acc from the ground up and everything but now just scraping by doing the bare minimum isn't helping WG any.

comon man, he gotten 3 combat levels in 5 months yo!

he must have spending all his time getting cash to pay for sets.

o wait...
 
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Chimpy
Posted: March 1, 2010 08:10 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Chimpy March 01, 2010 01:27 pm
       
QUOTE: WG_Keanu  February 26, 2010 10:30 am
Well, as long as I am not required to do anything, good luck.

KEanu I respect you training an acc from the ground up and everything but now just scraping by doing the bare minimum isn't helping WG any.

comon man, he gotten 3 combat levels in 5 months yo!

he must have spending all his time getting cash to pay for sets.

o wait...

Jayson stop trolling.


Sgt I can't tell what you're saying as usual.
 
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WG_Keanu
Posted: March 1, 2010 08:32 pmTop
   
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 Meh, there are other things to do in RS besides no-life combat every day tongue.gif
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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ThisIsUnique
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 99def smd biggrin.gif
92def ftw
i'm training atk str and trying for pray
 
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 Joe- you expect people to be able to play for 5 hours a day, while having school/work going on? Come on.
 
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Quikdrawjoe
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QUOTE: Olivier1o1 @ March 01, 2010 10:45 pm)
Joe- you expect people to be able to play for 5 hours a day, while having school/work going on? Come on.

It takes 5 hours if you get 20k/hour.
 
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Chimpy
Posted: March 1, 2010 11:38 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Olivier1o1 March 01, 2010 10:45 pm
Joe- you expect people to be able to play for 5 hours a day, while having school/work going on? Come on.

It takes 5 hours if you get 20k/hour.

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