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 No dds on raids
Posted: September 14, 2010 03:23 amTop
   
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Been seeing recently more and more people using a dds on raids. Can we clear up whether this is allowed?

Surely dscim or at least dspear should be used at least since raids are about the clan not loot.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 04:30 amTop
   
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I was told that tbers were allowed to bring dds as they don't ever get any kills and its really the only way how. If you want me to stop I will.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 05:16 amTop
   
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They are strongly discouraged. Don't bring them, they give me a headache seeing them.

Let me put forth the arguement that they don't really help you get kills either. Getting that first hit on our piling and hybriding is way more effective. Especially ancienting and possibly barrage a team if the opportunity arises.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 05:16 amTop
   
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I only took a DDS last night because it was a impromtu with like 3 WG members and we needed quick hits. I had a spear as well. Derp.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 05:45 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Vephy @ September 14, 2010 12:16 am)
Let me put forth the arguement that they don't really help you get kills either. Getting that first hit on our piling and hybriding is way more effective. Especially ancienting and possibly barrage a team if the opportunity arises.

Understood.

But i TB all the time and i hybrid with crossbow and diamond bolts aswell.
So it is rather difficult. I could just bring a cannon instead of DDS if thats what the majority want.

But I'm always going to TB cause well, not many other people do, maybe can't. I'm not ranting, just asking what i should do.

Thanks.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 06:01 amTop
   
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I dont have any issue with people using dd's if there tbing because they loose those first few hits. But othertimes it is discouraged.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 07:32 amTop
   
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oh, yea, i agree with the part about tbers, since their first hit is used on the tb, the specs can be used for damage, however other people i.e non magers, should dscim or dspear, to help with the kill.

i agree with mark though, i tb every raid, and dont get kills, but im not fussy, ill just be happy with a 76k afterwards, but i agree that it should be okay for tbers to dds for a chance at loot
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 07:46 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson @ September 14, 2010 02:32 am)
i agree with mark though, i tb every raid, and dont get kills, but im not fussy, ill just be happy with a 76k afterwards, but i agree that it should be okay for tbers to dds for a chance at loot

Yeah exactly, im not like insanely mad about getting loots, but at least let us have a chance eh. I also don't mind getting 76k's after. But i really do need them sometimes as one time i died with 3 sets and well, no drops cause i was tbing.

But thanks for clearing it up.

P.S. I might bring a cannon for the next few raids for some better hybriding cause i need the DP
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 07:48 amTop
   
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Dragon scimitar does more for the clan.
Does a dds even hit?
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 07:58 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Elyxiatic @ September 14, 2010 02:48 am)
Dragon scimitar does more for the clan.
Does a dds even hit?

1/2 the time Dragon Scim spec doesnt even work for me. Well recently anyway, but i do see your thinking.

And yeah DDS does help so much with the KO cause its just constant hits. I often hit around 200-200 pretty effectively with specs, and if i use it 4 times, well I'm sure you get the picture.

Oh and if i seem like I'm posting way too much on this topic, I'm just rather interested.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 09:35 amTop
   
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I tb all the time. I never Use DDS. I prefer MSB +)
 
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i have to admit il guilty of this but i do always hyrbrid ill bring range from now on
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 01:23 pmTop
   


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I hate DDS, it just says IM DESPERATE FOR KILLS and the people who use it are no offense probably not even maxed melee. It's a useless weapon as it has little to no KO power, spear or scim only.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 01:27 pmTop
   
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I would like to see a few more spears for just after the person defrosts its almost never that they get frozen straight away again and it gives the person a change to run out.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 05:22 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ September 14, 2010 02:23 pm)
I hate DDS, it just says IM DESPERATE FOR KILLS and the people who use it are no offense probably not even maxed melee.

I'm desperate for kills and am not maxed melee biggrin.gif DDS unit fall in.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 05:56 pmTop
   
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Sigh, I brang a DDS last time and will continue to do so when I range/melee. I also used a scimmy as well. I dont really see the big issue with bringing one as it helps down the target really quick with the specs especially when im potted with turmoil. Once my specs are up I go back to scimmy
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 06:24 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: SupremoPete @ September 14, 2010 12:56 pm)
I dont really see the big issue with bringing one as it helps down the target really quick with the specs especially when im potted with turmoil. Once my specs are up I go back to scimmy

Same here, i range while potting and then by the time im done potting the opponent prays range, so i run in with DDS and he drops.

It does have KO power.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 06:35 pmTop
   
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It's just a way for people to get free kills. D spear/d scim is much more reliable.

But, as far as TBers go, I'd be okay with them using it as long as I KNOW they're TBing. Anyone else I see using dds instead of a scim or spear will be asked to bank it.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 06:37 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Kyle @ September 14, 2010 07:35 pm)
It's just a way for people to get free kills. D spear/d scim is much more reliable.

But, as far as TBers go, I'd be okay with them using it as long as I KNOW they're TBing. Anyone else I see using dds instead of a scim or spear will be asked to bank it.

Ok *banks dds and brings out full black dhide and hand cannon*
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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Posted: September 14, 2010 07:17 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: WG_Keanu @ September 14, 2010 01:37 pm)
Ok *banks dds and brings out full black dhide and hand cannon*

Yeah if I wasn't allowed to use DDS i was gonna hybrid with a cannon and bring spear.

But yeah Kyle you always know I'm Tele-blocking so i guess that clears it up for me.

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Posted: September 14, 2010 10:09 pmTop
   
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What about the people who aren't maxed melee? Force us to hybrid or d spear so that our raids consist of die, die, die, and hope to get a 76k at the end?

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since raids are about the clan not loot.


Wait... what? That confuses me. Please explain in depth.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
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Posted: September 14, 2010 10:16 pmTop
   
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Posted: September 14, 2010 10:18 pmTop
   
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I'd rather not thanks smile.gif WG already controls my bank with these gear checks, don't need you controlling my stats as well. Otherwise I might as well just give up my password and pin to you guys.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 10:34 pmTop
   
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You need to train it up some before I want your pass and pin sir.
 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 10:46 pmTop
   
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