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Posted: May 9, 2011 01:58 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | This is the result of a discussion between Rachel and myself. I was planning to make this a movie because it was fairly important, but I don't think I should go to that amount of effort. WizardofGod has threatened to physically harm Dieyou2000 in real life. There were several witnesses to this. If you would like evidence, please consult me or Rachel privately and we'll see what we can do to compile it - we haven't yet, but have only relied on witnesses. It was a clear decision from the moment I heard about it that he needs to be expelled. This is one of the gravest acts that can be done in WG. It threatens the safety of our members and I would be a negligent leader if he was not kicked from WG. Rachel and I are aware that his popularity could contribute to a large number of members leaving in his wake. This is obviously a terrible scenario potentially, as it could harm our strength as a clan, but would you really want me, as a leader, to change rules and punishments according to a member's social ties? That's tyranny, and regardless of how it could affect other members, it must be done. I am not glad to be rid of him. From the small amounts of time I've spoken to him he was very positive and committed. WizardofGod will be given the clan friend rank. It was either this or banned. Bans are permanent, so I'm very reluctant to give it to him just yet - he might make positive changes and may choose to rejoin down the track if he wishes. Then again, if his attitude deteriorates following his expulsion, and he shows malice toward the clan, he will be banned. Please learn a lesson from this - we won't allow members to compromise the safety of other members. Even when you guys are threatening to punch Keanu, that already borders on punishment from me and it takes some restraint on my part not to do that. So when it comes to real life threats, unless you're friends (I recall Jayson telling me he'd kick me in the head for trolling him) just don't do it! EDIT: This action is not negotiable unless I am mistaken and WizardofGod made no such threat - highly unlikely that I am wrong as there were several witnesses. --------------------  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 02:00 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kcross|RDC Group: Banned Posts: 2535 Member No.: 1723 Joined: February 16, 2009 Total Events Attended: 202 | Unfortunate it had to come to this. He was a very good member, overall. -------------------- Kcross73 – KevCross – Kevin Proud Trial Guardian: December 24, 2009 – January 10, 2010 Proud Guardian: January 10, 2010 – February 13, 2010 Proud Event Leader: February 13, 2010 – November 27, 2010 Proud Council: November 27, 2010 – July 5, 2011 | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 02:00 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | Shame to see a hard working member go, really didn't want it to happen. But I would prefer a nice community over a flame fest and troll filled one. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 02:10 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: levylov Group: Ex-Member Posts: 75 Member No.: 2642 Joined: March 26, 2011 Total Events Attended: 9 | This makes me sad:[ I don't know Nick for so long yet, but he's been very very friendly/fun to hang arround with or to talk with on events and such. Going to miss seeing him here. *sadface* -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 02:17 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Espen11 Group: Guardian Posts: 367 Member No.: 2656 Joined: April 5, 2011 Total Events Attended: 16 | Good and active member, but oh well  --------------------    | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 02:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Garrett_xD Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1316 Member No.: 2159 Joined: November 28, 2009 Total Events Attended: 132 | Only reason I expected this is because of his lack of respect towards WG and its members. Even though he brought many events to the table, he wasn't as much of a negative person compared to a positive. People can also take over certain events. This a time for stepping up guys, Higher and Elites, Im looking at you. --------------------  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 02:29 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | ummm wat, i always remembered him as being a pretty cool guy \_(o.O)_/ --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 03:03 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: COMRADE|COLIN Group: Ex-Member Posts: 125 Member No.: 2712 Joined: April 22, 2011 Total Events Attended: 1 | Active member and pker. But that stuffs uncalled for. Question he led 3 pks i attended and never posted in recaps but i got screen shots of events can i still get attendance credit? --------------------  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 04:57 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Yes Colin, they count as attendance. -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 05:23 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | It is always sad for me to see this kind of leaving. I can only hope that in time the change will be positive and I'll someday be looking at his application and remembering him in a good way. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 05:25 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: xGod_Fath3Rx Group: Ex-Member Posts: 125 Member No.: 2670 Joined: April 6, 2011 Total Events Attended: 21 | Understandable but still one of the worst things that could have possibly happened in my opinion. He's one of the coolest guys I've ever talked to and was one of the best pk leaders in the clan. Definitely gonna miss seeing him/talking to him at events and stuff  . --------------------  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 06:28 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kat Group: Event Leader Posts: 1085 Member No.: 2257 Joined: April 30, 2010 Total Events Attended: 223 | sucks i really liked him too. :/ just wish it wouldnt have come to this --------------------   | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 07:08 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | He was one of the best PvP members. Really wish he could keep his cool :/ --------------------   | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 07:16 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 127 Member No.: 2612 Joined: February 23, 2011 Total Events Attended: 31 | Yo i disagree with this shit completely... But meh it doesnt matter. -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 07:58 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: jaredspurr Group: Guardian Posts: 325 Member No.: 2674 Joined: April 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 18 | i figured this was comming. all the shit between the two people. only part im wondering about does dieyou get a talking to/warn for the stuff he did? because this was not one sided --------------------    | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 08:18 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Dieyou's punishment has already been dealt to him and he's accepted it and moved on. He was suspended. -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 08:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: James|i2ipperz Group: Guardian Posts: 348 Member No.: 2438 Joined: October 25, 2010 Total Events Attended: 46 | I agree with da kno i disagree with this, its like me walking up to someone and going " Your mums a whore" and not expecting a smack in the face, die deserved what was said and wizard was obviously not serious, im hanging onto this clan by the skin of my teeth, the only reason i havent left yet is because of a few amazing friends and people i have met, and the wars we do, I love this clan but more and more people are leaving to decisions like this, the same thing happend with someone else whose name i wont bring up to prevent trolling etc, but yeh meh w/e -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 08:42 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 |
The point of it is. What you see as a joke. Other see it as not. Personally no one here should be even threatening or saying If I knew you irl I would fuck you up whatever to another clan member at all. This has happened before in wg. Similar threats and that person was kicked too i believe. Ye im going ot miss wizard but he should not be saying stuff like that at all. --------------------     | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 08:57 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Russell900 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 113 Member No.: 2683 Joined: April 11, 2011 Total Events Attended: 10 | He was the most active person since ive joined who activly encouraged people to do things. Seems like a big loss to me --------------------  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 09:07 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1110 Member No.: 2430 Joined: October 14, 2010 Total Events Attended: 77 | Its a loss, but it still isn't acceptable to threaten -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 09:10 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: dieyou2000 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 711 Member No.: 1300 Joined: August 28, 2008 Total Events Attended: 158 |
I at no point recall calling Wizard's mom a whore, but at any rate here is probably the one response I will post on this thread because I know you are all going to give me a lot of shit for this just because he was decent at pvp. The capitalization here is for emphasis so you can't possibly miss it. Not intended to be taken as me yelling or being rude. Just making sure you see this. WIZARD IS THE ONE WHO STARTED THIS FIGHT. After my bit with trolling Lumby, which I have apologized for, Wizard started verbally abusing me in #wg_lobby. I don't know what he told you, but he is the one that initiated this whole feud. As somebody already said, nothing I said deserves a response of "if I knew you irl I would beat you up". That kind of statement shows just how insecure and immature a person who was at his core. ______________________________________________ On to my opinion. I'll keep this short and polite as I possible, and this will be my only post on this thread, and then I consider this over with unless you want to take this to a private conversation. Pros: Yes, Wizard was a decent pker, and an ok leader. I don't give him more than that. He was by no means amazing. If you were here when we had bto and glenn you would know what a truly great leader is like. He was better than average, which in this clan is considered very good. Cons: It didn't take me long to figure out what a child he truly is at heart. His first response to many things that make him angry seem to be to talk about physically harming them. I'll leave it at this, and if you want to know more, I can give you a short summary of what happened between us the last week or so. He was an insecure, immature kid that thought he could bully people into doing things, and had no ability to maturely resolve situations or attempt to get along with people. I'm glad he's gone. --------------------   | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 09:13 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: James|i2ipperz Group: Guardian Posts: 348 Member No.: 2438 Joined: October 25, 2010 Total Events Attended: 46 | Honestly army if you think I could even give a damn about what you say your wrong, your the most immature staff member I have seen to date who trolls and angers someone all the time, I'm still trying to get ahold of a council member to sort you out so don't think your going to get off scott free unless the council don't do anything, you try to anoy me whenever I'm on teamspeak and shout constant abuse at me, you said whn I kicked someone " you should think about kicking him for no reason before you start" and wait what do you do on a regular basis? Kick me from ts3 that's right, some don't come I'n here contradicting me. Wg will suffer a very big loss losing wizard he was great a getting people to pk and keeping them active and having tank practises hosting the 1v1 ladder etc his absence will cause an uprising imo -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 09:27 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Slayz0rr Group: Emeritus Posts: 328 Member No.: 2212 Joined: January 12, 2010 Total Events Attended: 97 | James, You're a decent guy but we need to talk, Flaming staff to any degree is not acceptable. You're lucky you haven't recieved a warn level, Luke, x -------------------- Always Going For GOLD  | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 09:27 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | As I should point out to everyone, I don't care who starts fights. If you fight, I will punish you both. Just because you didn't start it does not make you immune. That is not how Western society works. Dieyou, you could afford to wear your heart on your sleeve a little less, because you're about to repeat the problems that made things this bad in the first place. You're bringing a fight into public. -------------------- | ||
Posted: May 9, 2011 09:28 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Slayz0rr Group: Emeritus Posts: 328 Member No.: 2212 Joined: January 12, 2010 Total Events Attended: 97 | Can you state who you was talking to? Because I was only trying to Neutralise the situation Luke,x No offence was intended via this post. -------------------- Always Going For GOLD | ||
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