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Posted: May 20, 2011 05:30 am  | |||||
     IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499    | Back in 2008 when I was council the first time I remember being extremely frustrated with the incompetent leadership and policies of this clan. And although I enjoyed it I understood maybe some things can't be changed. Now flashback to 3-4 months ago and council elections were opening up. I laughed when certain people suggested I applied but after a while they had me convinced to run. I was determined to change things and hopefully steer WG in a new direction. Unfortunately nothing has changed since 2008. Back to that same routine of getting fresh, new staff members to bring WG out of a slump only to go inactive and watch it fall. Rinse and repeat.. WG since 2006. The truth is, no matter how many wars we win, no matter how many new recruits we get, no matter what videos we make... all pointless if we don't have that final push. That push is what we've been missing in this clan's entire existence. And I see now that it won't be happening. I know a lot of you are trying and happily go off to war in hopes of seeing the glory days again.. but they aren't coming. It's amazing what a little hard work can get you. People see these wins as something new, something they've been waiting for. No. This is what EVERY clan is doing but for some damn reason WG has a mindset that we're some laid back easygoing clan. Yet when we step on the battlefield we wish we weren't. What can I say? I tried my best. I laid out some recipes but received no ingredients. There are some amazingly hard working and dedicated members in this clan but unfortunately not enough to pull the others' weight. This clan has changed from what I remember it. No point in opening the doors if they won't go. On a similar note I've come to realize RuneScape is boring to me. The only aspect I truly play for anymore is clan PvP. And if we can't get that kind of support here then so be it. I wouldn't trade the memories and friends I've made here for anything and definitely won't forget them, but really it's time to move on. I want to leave WG and look back someday and say I was proud to be a Guardian for 4 years. But in the present there is nothing left for me here. If you're my friend you need no shout out as I will keep in touch with you. Sorry it had to end like this but you'll see me around. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 06:01 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 | This is a sad day. You will definetely be the best council of my time, the work you put in over the past few months has been amazing. I value everyone of your points and can see your reasoning. Farewell Randy, youll be missed  -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum!   | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 06:10 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Wayshow Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 733 Member No.: 2584 Joined: February 6, 2011 Total Events Attended: 41 | This is a sad day... You are the best council member since I joined 2 months ago What is happening? May is coming to a close, and we have only had 3 new trial members. The introduction forum is idle for days at a time. On top of that, 7 members posted their goodbye topics, with a lot more inactivities posted. Now, one of the core members is leaving. This summer is supposed to be our charge to the top, but with all these people leaving... Deary me. Ily Randy <3 hope you will come back in the future --------------------
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Posted: May 20, 2011 06:30 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kung_man149 Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 1054 Member No.: 2111 Joined: October 30, 2009 Total Events Attended: 79 | Randy, you did an amazing job getting WG to where we are now. It's a shame that our best efforts didn't come like you expected. I'm sorry for not doing my part as well as I should and this is indeed a sad day in WG. I hope that one day you'll come back with a fresh mindset and new ideas. Until then my friend. I'll catch you on the flip side. ~Kung Man149 -------------------- Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔ <+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour <+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH   | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:06 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | I'm in shock kinda, maybe because I feel new to WG again. All the great leaders seem to go down this road here. It is infinitely frustrating. Especially after the 50% topic where I thought we might start booting the slackers and refining ourselves a bit. Oh well? --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:06 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1110 Member No.: 2430 Joined: October 14, 2010 Total Events Attended: 77 | Very Sad day. Huge shame. I thought WG could go somewhere with you, but i can agree with all your points (apart from the 'back in the day' points ofc as i was not around) Never the less, the show must go on. Good Luck in the future man. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:06 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 | Wow. Im shocked. Randy dont leave us <3 Although i totally agree with you sadly +( You've always been the one guy ive strived to be more like in WG. So much respect for you i have. This should be a wake up call guys. This is a very very sad moment in WG --------------------     | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:31 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | well shit. Randy i've always looked up to you as one of the best council / raid leaders we've had in my time. It's a real shame seeing you go like this, but I can't argue with your reasons. Good luck wherever you go :Y: --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:33 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 | Lol bye. I will expand; You talked a lot of game about WG being a dominant force over this next break and at the time we needed you most you abandon us.
Many things have changed, WGs activity requirement, minimum combat level and PvP direction have all changed for the better, these are just a few things. The quality of PvP member in WG is far superior than that of 2008.
Many WG members were behind you, almost everyone supported you, many members would attend your impromtu wars, early morning wars, because you made the effort, we were defiantly repaid in my opinion. Member skill and dedication has increased, maybe we are a few "ingredients" short but what good are they when you and your "recipe" are gone? It does not have to end, we elected you, you're abandoning us, thankfully you have two weeks to realise this is a mistake. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:41 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 |
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Posted: May 20, 2011 07:42 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: creeper975 Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 625 Member No.: 2422 Joined: October 4, 2010 Total Events Attended: 93 | Randy you've definately been my favourite council of my time in WG. The amount of successful work you put in has been amazing. Im really sad to see you go, but wherever you go, best of luck to you. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 09:34 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | I actually feel depressed now after this sunk in. Meh. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 10:33 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | It's a well written 2 week notice that's for sure. --------------------  The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011        | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 10:57 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | I can't say anymore than goodbye and thank you, as your actions and the words of others speak more volume than anything I could write. You'll be missed Randy. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 11:01 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: jaredspurr Group: Guardian Posts: 325 Member No.: 2674 Joined: April 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 18 | dude im gonna miss you bro, hope you can change your mind. just so everone knows ima start recruiting my ass off so no other council feels the need to leave --------------------    | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 11:51 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Josh, please don't be a prick. Randy was an amazing council member. I expected this, though it saddens me. While you never said it, I saw your patience waning to a level where this would be the outcome. You gave so much and I was not able to reciprocate your energies, letting you down. I am firm in the belief that I could not help it - my inactivity is not laziness. This doesn't make me feel any better about letting you down. I want to spend the remaining two weeks with you praising your efforts and your legacy. For what you have given I will be grateful and I also thank you for stepping down so gracefully. This decision will clearly stop some of the anger you are feeling, and whatever makes you feel good is the right decision. Let's hear it for Randy, the legendary council member. This is your moment of remembrance mate. Josh... just no. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 12:31 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kat Group: Event Leader Posts: 1085 Member No.: 2257 Joined: April 30, 2010 Total Events Attended: 223 | Randy please dont quit on WG now just wait until the summer, if things dont improve you should leave and u most likely wont be leaving alone. and yes i agree this should be a wake up call. youve done so much for this clan and your giving it your all. just dont leave ill like play xbox more and buy that gears of war game when it comes out if ud like so ur not so bored of rs. X.X... but please just think about how much u did for us and think about staying. and i think its wrong how inactive this clan has gotten. just wait till exams are over. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 12:36 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Kat has a point Randy. This is the period of intensity leading up to summer. Nobody's active like we could be. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 12:38 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
Pretty much reaction You've been around as long as I can remember -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 12:50 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Espen11 Group: Guardian Posts: 367 Member No.: 2656 Joined: April 5, 2011 Total Events Attended: 16 | Did not see this coming at all. Even though I dont know you, you seem like a nice guy. I am sure it will be a huge loss for WG, you will be missed. I must admit I think it is a little bit bad timing to leave now..... But hey, its your life! You have to do what you feel for, and nothing else. Anyways, I wish you the best of luck in the real life!  Enjoy yourself!^^ --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 03:01 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I totally understand what you are saying and we've discussed it many times. I was very surprised when you actually caved in to applying for council again but you did a great job and it sucks to see you stepping down. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 03:14 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Lady_Wildflame Group: Guardian Posts: 40 Member No.: 1833 Joined: April 8, 2009 Total Events Attended: 9 | I'm just going to quote big slabs of text, because I have a fair amount to say on the matter. "Back to that same routine of getting fresh, new staff members to bring WG out of a slump only to go inactive and watch it fall. Rinse and repeat.. WG since 2006. The truth is, no matter how many wars we win, no matter how many new recruits we get, no matter what videos we make... all pointless if we don't have that final push. That push is what we've been missing in this clan's entire existence. And I see now that it won't be happening. I know a lot of you are trying and happily go off to war in hopes of seeing the glory days again.. but they aren't coming." What is the 'push'? What is the objective? I have just looked back through all the trial guardian information and the stickied important announcements, and none of them detail WG's objective as such. Sure, there are rules and rights which establish a hierarchical but egalitarian clan culture, but nothing actually detailing what the purpose of WG is. Originally WG was the anti-pk clan. The honourable clan in a society full of douchebags and pilejumpers. But as time progressed and Runescape matured as a game, WG retained its honour code but became otherwise little dissimilar from any of the other clans jockeying for position on the top-30-list thread on RSC. And that has not really changed to this day, from my (admittedly limited) perspective. What is it you wanted from WG? Can it be defined? 40 member pulls to 1-week prep wars? Top-ten ranking? I want to know because your words of 'push' and 'glory days' show that you have some greater objective in mind, in which PvP action is only a means to an end, but I cannot see that end. "It's amazing what a little hard work can get you. People see these wins as something new, something they've been waiting for. No. This is what EVERY clan is doing but for some damn reason WG has a mindset that we're some laid back easygoing clan. Yet when we step on the battlefield we wish we weren't." Perhaps this too is related to the unclear purpose of WG. Are we a pking clan? A warring clan? A skilling clan? Are we a place where people hang out and occasionally do all of the above? I'd suggest that the last option on the list is most plausible. Yet those members who prefer any of the other options will inevitably feel constricted by the mismatch between WG and their true individual preference. "On a similar note I've come to realize RuneScape is boring to me. The only aspect I truly play for anymore is clan PvP. And if we can't get that kind of support here then so be it. I wouldn't trade the memories and friends I've made here for anything and definitely won't forget them, but really it's time to move on. I want to leave WG and look back someday and say I was proud to be a Guardian for 4 years. But in the present there is nothing left for me here. If you're my friend you need no shout out as I will keep in touch with you." And of all you have said I feel this cuts to the core of it. If you are bored with the game then you should - must, for your sanity's sake - leave it. I know the feeling; ceasing to play WoW after five years' addiction, at one point so severely I chose it over food, well... I would never wish that limbo state upon anyone. On the other hand, if you really enjoy clan PvP, then it is more a matter of finding a clan that supports your goal as strongly as you do. And this links back to the frustration you were feeling in WG. What is WG...? I can't say I wish you would stay - knowing your reasons and saying otherwise would be selfish and cruel. Instead, I wish to thank you for making WG a better place than it would otherwise have been. Your presence and leadership will be sorely missed. Should your interest in RS reignite in future, I am certain you will find yourself amongst friends here. --------------------  Thanks, Luke. | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 03:46 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Bgpgraebner Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 780 Member No.: 2457 Joined: November 17, 2010 Total Events Attended: 51 | Wildflame said it all. Please don't leave us (friends). I completely agree with you on the last part as well - RL>RS. Take that ahead, bro. Thanks for what you've done. You were a great leader. -------------------- SEX. Now that I got your attention, please read my post. | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 05:09 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | You are one of the greats in the history of the clan. Every second you have been in this clan you have given 100% for WG. Asking more than what you want to give would be selfish. As suss as this will sound... Fair well, Kingrandy0. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: May 20, 2011 07:36 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Hats off to you fella. You speak what I realized back 2 years ago, never decided to try since then. -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||
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