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Posted: May 20, 2008 12:11 pmTop
   
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Right

Im good with computers but not good when it comes to specs
Im pretty sure this is my pc http://www.packardbell.co.uk/products/desk...0X19701-46.html

Right when i play online games such as company of heroes (personal favourite) i always have to play with the graphics at the very very lowest along with audio and it still warns me that my current graphics and audio settings are lagging the game, when i turn them up the game almost explodes and just refuses to do it... Why? It also says my performance is at its very lowest and occasionally the entire computer just freezes mid game and i have to turn it off using the power button. I regularly scan for virus's and things like that, i disk defrag and i disk clean. what can i get and how much is it going to cost me to actually be able to run my pc really well with a good performance level.

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Company of Heroes Specs
http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6158594/index.html

P.s im also running like a 512mb NVidia graphics card
 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 03:57 pmTop
   


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Graphics card, upgrade it.

Should be £50 for a decent one.
 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 04:15 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Job is God @ May 20, 2008 03:57 pm)
Graphics card, upgrade it.

Should be £50 for a decent one.

job he already said hes running a frigging 512 MB graphics card that should be more then good enough you idiot.

Anyhow Jaxx im guessing its to do with memory could be your RAM

Do me a favour

go to run and type in DXDIAG and then print screen it and post ur exact specifications of your computer here and ill be able to further help you.
 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 05:23 pmTop
   


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I only read the first 2 lines and the links, sue me.
 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 05:58 pmTop
   


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RAm is fine, wth at processer. Dual core 800MHz?
 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 06:00 pmTop
   
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I'm clueless. I just spent half a day trying to connect to the internet.

Good luck though
 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 06:33 pmTop
   
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Have you done anything to the computer since you bought it? If you have check those parts to make sure they're actually working properly with the other parts. What I mean is if you upgraded your RAM or something like that and the new parts have lower speeds than the original RAM then they'll all run at the slower speed. If you haven't done anything, then don't bother with that.

As for the actual crashing stuff, remember the 1GB that it says is just recommended. Since you've already got 2GB you should be able to at least play at the middle specs if not high, however it's possible that because you're running Vista as opposed to XP, the game would run slower.

I've heard that people with amazing computers could barely run C&C 3 Tiberium Wars on Vista and the minimum requirements were about 512 RAM and 128 V-card.

If you're doing other things while trying to play such as having a web browser open or listening to music that could crash the game because it's possible your processor can't handle the load.

You should check the clock speeds of your V-card because that's really what matters with those kinds of things. There are cases where a 256 MB V-card will run a graphics power hungry game far better than a 512 Mb card because it's able to process the data at a faster speed, so check those. If they're reasonably high speeds then chances are it's not that.

Are you just turning down the settings from high to low, or are you also turning things off? What I mean is are you turning things like anti-aliasing off and shaders and stuff like that. When I played AoE 3 on my old laptop I had all the special things like reflections in the water and shadows and foot prints all off and the game ran fine, but once I turned them on it was so laggy, so that's something that could be doing it.

Note: I had the normal settings at high on my laptop but turned the special things off and the game ran fine.

Hope some of this helps at all.




 
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Posted: May 20, 2008 07:01 pmTop
   
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not totally sure, but if you play coh i am guessing its multiplayer, you can hear footsteps ingame and the sound can make a huge factor in game play. If so and you have some money to spend get these-

http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/au...usb/information

it comes w/ an audio driver of its own, not an expensive or great one, but it does the job and its a freaking amazing and great headset+mic.
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 12:50 amTop
   
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QUOTE (1colonel1 @ May 20, 2008 06:33 pm)
I've heard that people with amazing computers could barely run C&C 3 Tiberium Wars on Vista and the minimum requirements were about 512 RAM and 128 V-card.

Sorry Colonel, but do you actually have vista? because whoever told you that is full of it.

I myself have C&C3, I run it on almost max specs. I was running it on reasnoably high specs when I was only running 2 gig's of ram, now I have 4, and it runs smoothly and beautifully.

His CPU is a 2.2 Core 2 Duo Job, the 800 mhz reffers to the FSB (Kinda funny how they list the FSB speed but don't actually tell you the CPU clock).

I would suggest trying to run it in XP Sp2 compatability mode to see wether that allows it to run any better online? it may be that people running different operating systems do not go well together when playing Company of heroes.

As colonel said, the ram in your graphics card is not nessacarily what makes it good, factors such as the RAM type (My card is running 356 'GDDR3' even though there is no standard for what 'GDDR3' is, lol) and graphics chip generation. I upgraded from a GeForce 7300 to an 8600 Gt earlier this year, and I actually decreased in RAm, bur according to vista my graphics processing became twice as good.

Post your graphic's card specs for us?


 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 07:38 amTop
   
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im running windows xp.

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and also ive already got a decent headset + 5:1 speaker system
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 08:31 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Theevildead2 @ May 21, 2008 01:50 am)
QUOTE (1colonel1 @ May 20, 2008 06:33 pm)
I've heard that people with amazing computers could barely run C&C 3 Tiberium Wars on Vista and the minimum requirements were about 512 RAM and 128 V-card.

Sorry Colonel, but do you actually have vista? because whoever told you that is full of it.

I myself have C&C3, I run it on almost max specs. I was running it on reasnoably high specs when I was only running 2 gig's of ram, now I have 4, and it runs smoothly and beautifully.

His CPU is a 2.2 Core 2 Duo Job, the 800 mhz reffers to the FSB (Kinda funny how they list the FSB speed but don't actually tell you the CPU clock).

I would suggest trying to run it in XP Sp2 compatability mode to see wether that allows it to run any better online? it may be that people running different operating systems do not go well together when playing Company of heroes.

As colonel said, the ram in your graphics card is not nessacarily what makes it good, factors such as the RAM type (My card is running 356 'GDDR3' even though there is no standard for what 'GDDR3' is, lol) and graphics chip generation. I upgraded from a GeForce 7300 to an 8600 Gt earlier this year, and I actually decreased in RAm, bur according to vista my graphics processing became twice as good.

Post your graphic's card specs for us?

Thankfully I don't have Vista, I've tried it a few times but don't like it. This was when C&C 3 just came out and was supposedly 'Vista Ready'. This wasn't from just one person, it was a group of people. Of course there were others that said it ran fine, but loads of people said it was incredibly laggy on Vista, but ran fine on XP. I do know that it works fine on Vista now because some of my friends borrowed my copy and say it works great. I can't use it on my MacBook Pro unless I decide to install XP via partitioning my HDD which I'm not sure I want to do, and a VPC can't provide enough power to run the game.

In any case, chances are that isn't the problem anyway because Vista has been out for a while now, but I was just saying that as a possibility.
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 09:03 amTop
   
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Those spec's you posted Jaxx are totally different to the one that you linked us too.

You only have:

1 Gig of ram
2.8 Ghz pentium D (Pentium D's were the first dual cores)....

Please print screen the third "Display" page.
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 09:13 amTop
   
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Sorry i thought that was my pc, sorry about wrong link :S
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 09:32 amTop
   
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Ok well Jaxx ive seen your problem you have a crap graphics card with alot of RAM and you need to update to have 2GB of ram on your motherboard i can tell you exactly what to buy you just need to give me a budget.
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 09:52 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Jaxx456 @ May 21, 2008 09:13 am)
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Sorry i thought that was my pc, sorry about wrong link :S

This explains it all.

7300's are ****, there is no kinder way to put it. Realistically it could use about a third to a quarter of the ram on the card, the rest it physically could not address.

People do not realise, if you have an older generation of graphics card any ram over 256mb is totally pointless as the GPU cannot address it.

With your current PC spec's I would maybe look at another 7000 series nvidia card, but one of the higher end card's like a 7900 or 7950. One of those card's will still run COH very well, and probably won't set you back too much.

There is no point going for an 8000 or 9000 series card's as these card's are designed for running DX 10 on vista, so the main advantages of these card's will be lost on you with an XP based pc.

My Reccomendation would be to get;

A Nvidia 7900 series card (something like this: Ebay 7900 though try to find it brand new.) Post here if you intend to buy one first though, as spec's of graphics cards vary and brands can be shite (Leadtek etc.)

An extra Gig of ram.... find out the speed of your current ram first, and what your motherboard is compatable with.

 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 12:08 pmTop
   
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alright ill sort it once i get paid, would a place like PC World fit it all together for me?

and how much would an extra gig of ram cost?
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 01:11 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Jaxx456 @ May 21, 2008 12:08 pm)
alright ill sort it once i get paid, would a place like PC World fit it all together for me?

and how much would an extra gig of ram cost?

A gig should cost almost nothing.... I got 2 gig's for 70NZD a couple of months ago (Corsair Xms2 no less). 70NZ is like 25 pounts, so like 10 pounds for a gig of quality ram....
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 01:13 pmTop
   
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I've only got 1 gig of RAM and things seem to work fine. I haven't played any high-perfomance games for ages though.

My dad has like 16mb RAM lol
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 05:54 pmTop
   
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idk what u guys are talking about....my graphics card is a NVIDIA 5200.....
 
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Like others have already said, that V-card is crap...I know first hand.

Like Evil said, get a 7900 or 7950 (I was going to get this when I had plans to build a rig myself, but getting parts to Africa is quite hard). If you've got the money I'd definitely recommend one of the 8800 cards, even the cheapest would be incredible.

In any case, get up to 2 GB RAM because depending on if you have a 32 or 64 bit OS 4 GB my not be usable. If that info has been posted, sorry I haven't really re-read everything. Usually 2 GB runs practically anything pretty well.

RAM is pretty cheap, I was able to find some really good RAM online for about $100 and that would be about 50 pounds, not sure about the rate right now.
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 10:04 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (1colonel1 @ May 21, 2008 07:32 pm)
Like others have already said, that V-card is crap...I know first hand.

Like Evil said, get a 7900 or 7950 (I was going to get this when I had plans to build a rig myself, but getting parts to Africa is quite hard). If you've got the money I'd definitely recommend one of the 8800 cards, even the cheapest would be incredible.

In any case, get up to 2 GB RAM because depending on if you have a 32 or 64 bit OS 4 GB my not be usable. If that info has been posted, sorry I haven't really re-read everything. Usually 2 GB runs practically anything pretty well.

RAM is pretty cheap, I was able to find some really good RAM online for about $100 and that would be about 50 pounds, not sure about the rate right now.

An 8800 would be a waste, no non-DX10 game needs something that good, plus his processor isnt powerful enough to need it.

Any non-vista 32 bit Operating system can only address 3.5 gigs of ram or something like that, so anything above that is pointless. Make sure you check your manufacturers handbook befoe rushing off to buy any though, as you will find that only certain spec's of ram will work correctly in your PC.
 
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Posted: May 21, 2008 10:22 pmTop
   
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Yeah, but 8800 is just plain cool. 7950 or just plain 7900 is great also.

Yes, make sure the motherboard is compatible with the RAM you intend to buy, or else it won't work. Also check the speeds of the RAM you've already got if you intend to pair it up with that, in which case you want to get RAM that is the same speed so everything is running at optimal performance.
 
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Colonel Not everyone can go out and spend alot of money for top of the range items for the desktop, towers or laptops. I myself am using a GeFroce 8400 GS with dedicated graphics. Here is a run down of mine:

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QUOTE (Jaxx456 @ May 21, 2008 12:08 pm)
alright ill sort it once i get paid, would a place like PC World fit it all together for me?

and how much would an extra gig of ram cost?

No i doubt a place like PC world would fit it for you. You would have to find a specialist store to do that and pay more cash. However it would be really easy to install this yourself. Also you need to really buy RAM in pairs as this makes it work better you cant just whack in 1 1gb stick in any old slot. All you do is unclip your old ram and stick your new ram in. I recommend buying 2 x 512 MB of RAM use www.Crucial.com/uk to scan your PC and it will give you a list of compatible RAM for your computer. Should be around less then 40 quid. or for around 40 - 50 you could get 2 X 1 Gb which you would not have to upgrade for a long time but its upto you.

As for graphics cards as 8th series would not be much use as your not running vista however even the fabled 8800 GTX is only around £100 and would be a great investment and serve you for years to come so this could be a very worth while thing to think about. The 9600 cards are around the same cost but i dont believe they are much better. Upto you really i might take a further look into it.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....s)%20-%20Retail
 
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QUOTE (Job is God @ May 20, 2008 10:57 am)
Graphics card, upgrade it.

Should be £50 for a decent one.

Graphics cards are usually more expensive ohmy.gif If it's a decent one
 
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