We are Rick, but you simply cannot walk back in and gain any position in power.

Sorry,

~Abs

P.S. - I also believe reinstating a Council who is used to be in WG 2-3 years ago is a very bad idea as Wg's changed a lot, and reversing it back will not help us, neither will harsh punishment. You have to be in the clan to see how much has changed and get used to it for a good 6 months.

First off, if nothing's wrong with WG, why is everyone who has ever meant anything to this clan, leaving without looking back? Why are there so many people asking me for my help, if it's not needed? Why would I ask others for support, and have gotten such support, if nothing's wrong?

Secondly, I'm not throwing away 6 months of my time to "see how things have changed". It's apparant to quite a few people that these "changes" suck and something needed to be done about them. Why on earth would I subject myself to an outhouse when I can use a nice clean bathroom? Understand where I'm coming from?

Lastly, I was doing this for the goodness of WG and the name that I helped build and the name that Gene fought so hard for, for years on end. To me, WG was "home" and I would do the same thing if my house irl were in jeopardy of being demolished.

WG is losing its appeal and it'll never, ever be a respectable clan again. I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do about that anymore. I've offered my services but I think some people just like their ranks a little too much and are afraid of losing them....and they should be. This place needs leaders and I haven't seen any leadership qualities in any member you have in those positions right now.

Sorry for rambling but this just pisses me off that people are willing to go through the motions for a subpar clan when they could have a great one.

GF WG...too bad you're going to lose.
 
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I'm sorry, but I 100% agree with this view, I think Abmanju is a fantastic person on a personal level, but I'm yet to see you at an event, which in all fairness, just isn't good enough - keeping in mind it's the Summer Holidays and all. How much worse will it be when you have A Level dedications too?

I think we need Rick back.

To Mods, do NOT lock this topic, move it to 'Clan Matters' if need be, but members need a place to put down their views. Locking it would be the final proof that you're just not allowing members to criticise and put forward their views.

Dan
 
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I'm just Dan.

I already put down my view with wiliam, it was locked and never to be discussed about again. Rick i totally agree with you but now Lordy is going to return things should brighten up, for you and the others.

I agree with all those who agree with those who have said good things about this post.
 
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Friend's Forver
The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer

And of those people that say "WG is dying", how many are still left in the midst of the clan? A small handful.

Walking in with power, as most other people have said, is not a great idea. It gives a bad basis. You are used to the Old Skool and things are changing. This is not the Old Skool anymore, so people who want it completely back are going to have to deal with it for the most part. Things are being whipped around from going down, to going up. It might have its bumps along the way, but they are going up.
 
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I agree to that. I'm one of the few that has been here since the beginning and I know what issues have caused this clan to fall at times, and what issues have caused this clan to succeed in times of need. This is one of those moments where if you want this clan to go back the way it was, which I don't see how you guys can't, then we have to all work together on this. Seriously, rick is and has always been and adult to this clan, he does know what he's doing, he always did. Lordy worked years on this clan and it saddens me to the core of my heart seeing it die slowly like this. Please let this clan start off again, it needs a clean slate to ride on back up to its days of glory, or else, and I guarantee, the WG you know or did know will be lost in runescape history. We can definitely get back up there. Some of you probably only see this as another drama issue where everyone argues for no reason what so fucking ever. But WG was my family, and there still are people that are in this clan that even though I don't talk to them much anymore, I do still have feelings for them, if anything were to ever happen to them, I would be incredibly saddened and guarantee I would cry in real life. This is the ONLY community that I have spent 5 years with. I'm losing a part of my family if this clan goes down in flames. I don't about you new people to the clan, but this is the case for almost all of us old skoolers. We "old skoolers" are bringing up such a big issue about this because we actually care about this clan.

If you do love this clan as much as I do and always have, you would come to terms with some sort of agreement where the old and new skool could work together, in some sort of way.

I don't want to sit by and let 5 years of my life go by and end just cause some of you new people can't compromise with us old skool. I don't give a shit whether you guys don't find it fair, because unfortunately, I take this clan to real terms, when I know that a lot of you guys use this clan as a simple way of meeting people on runescape, just making your experience funner. For me, and the old skool members, this clan is a way for us to escape from our live for a minute, and talk, and have fun, and remember the memories we've had. Us old skool have seen many more things, and have been around for many more events in RS history than a lot of you have. And we've also been around for many real life events. Us old skool have a bond to each other, we have memories that just won't be buried, we don't want to let you new guardians pass by and let these memories seep in to the sands of time. We will fight for them, whether you like it or not.

P.S. sorry I didn't side with you any sooner Rick, you got me as an extra contributor to your side, til' the end my friend.
 
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Proud WG member since December 2003