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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:10 pmTop
   
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Well i've not been the most active member this month due to work, hospital and i don't even play rs anymore really. However something recently did annoy me rather alot, Eugene however didn't share with you all about the recent "spy/leaker" on the WG boards. Oh, it was me. But if you think it was leaking something bad, think again. it was about the WG T-shirts. Yes, those. I was on vent with a friend of mine, he asked me what i was doing i replied "just browsing the wg forums, catching up stuff i've missed, just reading about this wg t-shirt thing". He then asked me what it looked like, so i took a screen shot of it and showed him, he said it looked alittle plain and then asked how much they cost so i told him. I didn't think i was doing anything wrong at the time, i was just talking to him on vent about random stuff.

So frankie being himself.. (my friend) he came in the wg lobby asking about them. Eugene went insane and i read his "spy in the forums" post, so i said talked to him about it, me not thinking i haven't done anything wrong. Alas, i was wrong, i recieved a 24 hour ban from the site and IRC, but this ban turned into a 36 hour ban, which just annoyed me even more. After reading some of the replies on the Important Anouncements topic, i basically think you all think of me as some sad loser who spies over a game, but to be honest... i didn't even do anything seriously wrong, it was a misunderstandting at the most.

I know i haven't been the most active member this month, i've had to go in hospital, i've started a new job which my working hours don't go well with WG event times. I don't even deserve higher guardian, how i got it.. i don't know. This isn't me asking for Emeritus either, because let's face it, i don't deserve it. i'm lucky i'm even still in this clan, but i can't stay hear when i get suspended for something so small and something that didn't really matter and it didn't even get out to anyone. I also can't stay hear when i read the replies on that Important Anouncements topic.

Sorry to those people who do actually like me in wg, Tabs i'm extremely sorry to you. I know you don't want me to leave but i thought about this the last few days or so.
Again, sorry to Eugene, you feel like i've betrayed you or something.

soo.. yeah that's it. It's been a good 3 month in WG.
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:15 pmTop
   


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Wow, that's bs you were banned.
I want you to stay dude sad.gif
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:16 pmTop
   


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Finding out that it wasn't spying and was just a minor leak over the t-shirt, I do feel Eugene over-reacted on this. I think a lot of other people are going to be wondering why Eugene didn't just say what it was about. I know you've been friends with Frankie for a long time, and just made an offhand comment. Frankie was the one that was an idiot there.

Take a day or so to calm down, leaving WG is not the answer right now. Please think about this, talk with every one...

~Tabs
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:20 pmTop
   
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Don't leave Pete. Not now. Not over something like this.

Eugene, what the hell man? >_< They're just T-Shirts. Now I know why you didn't say what was leaked in the post to begin with. When I heard it was about T-Shirts, well, I just thought it was a little ridiculous.
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:25 pmTop
   
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Don't leave, it was a mistake. I hope you can solve things out with Eugene but if that's your choice then bye and good luck Irl. sad.gif
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:26 pmTop
   
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Dude don't leave we can work this out. What the heck is Eugene thinking? He leaked a freaking t-shirt dude dont ban him god.
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:26 pmTop
   
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Don't leave... Not over this. Let it cool down, take a few days and reconsider...
CHANGE YOUR MIND OR ELSE!! <3 u, k?
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:26 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Pbplayer9 @ August 29, 2008 11:20 pm)
Don't leave Pete. Not now. Not over something like this.

Eugene, what the hell man? >_< They're just T-Shirts. Now I know why you didn't say what was leaked in the post to begin with. When I heard it was about T-Shirts, well, I just thought it was a little ridiculous.

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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:27 pmTop
   
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*Bangs his head on the table*

Yeah someone told me what you leaked and I laughed my ass off, it was ridiculous, leaking a t-shirt suspendable now?
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Naice one there.

Please don't leave Pete, you are such a good member sad.gif
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:45 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ August 29, 2008 06:27 pm)
*Bangs his head on the table*

Yeah someone told me what you leaked and I laughed my ass off, it was ridiculous, leaking a t-shirt suspendable now?
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Naice one there.

Yeah don't even think of wearing it in public, that's probably perm...

Seriously Bob, don't leave for something which is frankly irrelevant like this - Did he even consult anyone else before setting the ban? Leaders shouldn't be able to ban on whim without even consulting others first...

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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:48 pmTop
   
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Though it saddens me to see you leaving Pete I do feel that those who blame Eugene for this ought to go get their heads out of their ass.

You all should know that it is strictly forbidden to screenshot forums and give them out, yeah fair enough that you wished to tell your mate that WG was making a T shirt and its price etc etc. but the suspension was more for the fact that you had screenied the forums than what was actually leaked.

As for the IA, well yeah at the time of people writing that people didnt actually know what had happened.

Anyway Pete

Its sad to see you go, you could have made a great raid leader but unfortunately your health and work have meant that you were unable to do so. I hope you reconsider and take emeritus, however it is your choice.
 
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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:51 pmTop
   
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Evil, I doubt anybody's BLAMING Eugene. I know I'm not, but I still think it's somewhat ridiculous.

The way the IA came across was that it was secret information that anybody else shouldn't know about. But in fact, it was about T-Shirts. It's not THAT big of a deal that should have results in a ban. If ANYTHING, a warning.

I understand that it's the concept, not the actual facts, but I think you would've made your point by just saying to him that he's not allowed to screenshot the forums. It most likely would've worked fine. Pete's an understanding guy.
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 12:09 amTop
   
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You don't have to leave, unless you just want to.
You got a ban for punishment, work out your time and learn from this, it will make you a better Guardian for going through this.
At this point after promising to punish the spy/leaker Eugene could not back down.
I don't care who your friends are don't discuss the forums or screen them.


 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 12:23 amTop
   


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Posted: August 30, 2008 12:38 amTop
   
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Sorry to see you go pete, i didn't know what was leaked so i thought the worst, a susupension over a t-shirt is hardly something that should be given out.

I understand your fustration, if you do then i hope your new job goes well and so does your illness.

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Posted: August 30, 2008 12:51 amTop
   
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Not this crap again..

I remember Hugo got banned for being a "rot spy." I truly believed he was innocent to this day

You dont have to leave. Its clear that everyone here values you as a friend.

 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 02:31 amTop
   
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I somehow knew this was the thing that was leaked......what crap imo.....

but yea....hope you don't leave, if you do, good luck irl.

p.s- is there even a written rule saying its against the rules to screen shot the forums? I have never seen one so yea.....link pl0x?

p.s.s- new rules should be posted individually in general forums so people know what knew rules have came since they joined imo.....
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 02:56 amTop
   


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Just don't screenshot forums. No one likes that.

And we all love you. We never would tell you to leave.

You got a ban because of what you did wrong, and that's done and over. Deal with it.

There's no good reason for you to leave.

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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:10 amTop
   
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Can I plz see the screenshot
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:15 amTop
   


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LAUGH MY FUCKING ASS OFF THAT'S SOME BS. Wow dude I really don't think this deserved a ban and I really don't think you should leave, but I guess that's why I'm not the leader of WG. Bob you were a great member, a great pker and a great guy I wish you the best where ever you go but I really do hope you come back mate.




Best of wishes.
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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:22 amTop
   
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Pete don't leave your clan family over this. Other people have done far worse. Everyone has to put in the punishment time and we all learn. Now I feel bad for what I wrote in my post. I don't think your a loser. I think your really nice.

What is nice about most of us here, we all make mistakes. So your not alone. I've done my share of "ohhhh noooo what have I done" So lighten up and stay with us.

Lordy was just protecting the forum. He has to rule the way he does to keep things safe for us. I don't think this will be anything to worry about in your future with WG. Forgiveness is a great thing. You two can work this out.

Please don't leave.
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:33 amTop
   


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sorry to see u leaving so soon pete tbh ur nhte toonly 1 if u wana ge trid of pete get rid of me ive told people who rnt in wg baout the t-shirts its not a big fuss geez gene u came back and already turning people away seriously wats the point in this cant people know we are getting wg t-shirts i htink its sad banning people for this kinda stuff makes me sick. p.s maybe if everyone else sed it then u wouldnt make it a fuss but y i cant belive ur turning people away gene.
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:38 amTop
   
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It wasn't about him telling people about the T-Shirts.

It was about the concept of him screenshotting the forums and leaking information. =\

The Council has to do what they believe is right for the clan. It's one of the hardest jobs out there, because they have the balls to listen to everybody bitch at them for what they think is right.

Pete's a good friend of mine. I don't want him to leave. Nor do I want him to be punished. But what was done was for the good of WG. I see that now, and I failed to see that earlier.
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:40 amTop
   
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Sorry to see you leave mate sad.gif
 
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Posted: August 30, 2008 03:41 amTop
   


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well sorry to say this but idc im gona say it isnt this whole t-shirt thing stupid
gene wants to make more money for himself on the t-shirts he wanted like 20 dollars for shirt and he sed itd cost 280 to make 40 this is a scam he just wants to make cash. p.s i dont caer wat people say to me tbh or do ive had enuf with my close mates leaving cause someone makes a big fuss about it.
 
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