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Posted: October 19, 2008 03:51 pmTop
   
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Yesterday at a raid, a pile was called on a non-skuller....

People say "You don't come into PvP world not to PK", that's the same as saying you don't go into the wilderness not to PK...

I use PvP worlds to skill because it's more peaceful.

If they aren't skulled, even if they are there to PK, you shouldn't kill them. WG is an ARPK clan and killing non skulled people pisses me off.

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Posted: October 19, 2008 03:59 pmTop
   
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does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:01 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 03:59 pm)
does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.

The rules have always been, if they aren't skulled you don't kill them. There was a topic about it saying "Even if they are wearing 10m of stuff , you don't kill them."
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:02 pmTop
   
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If he was in pking gear and not skulled, we are allowed to kill him

I dont know if that was the case since I wasnt there
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:03 pmTop
   
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I don't think yesterday's PK was official :S
Even so, I haven't seen it so I'm having mixed feelings about it (Like, was the guy wearing full PvP gear and such)
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:04 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Maddness990 @ October 19, 2008 04:01 pm)
QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 03:59 pm)
does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.

The rules have always been, if they aren't skulled you don't kill them. There was a topic about it saying "Even if they are wearing 10m of stuff , you don't kill them."

i've always killed or attacked people who are skulled or not skulled regardless of what they're wearing o.O
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:11 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 11:04 am)
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 03:59 pm)
does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.

The rules have always been, if they aren't skulled you don't kill them. There was a topic about it saying "Even if they are wearing 10m of stuff , you don't kill them."

i've always killed or attacked people who are skulled or not skulled regardless of what they're wearing o.O

Thats probably gonna have to change sometime soon.
Very soon.
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:13 pmTop
   
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WG is an ARPK clan right? So shouldn't we follow the basis of ARPK?
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:14 pmTop
   


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If you are on a pvp world and its not p2p then you are pking...

Only reason p2p is different in because you can train with those brawler gloves.

And only like 2% of people on pvp worlds -> me for example. I train there because its empty. But if u ever see them they are probably at their training spots or hiding quiet well.

But if their unskulled right away since their on a pk world wit gear then their pking. Or if they have no armour and unskulled then there probably scouting.
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:28 pmTop
   
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But still, it's always been:

Even if they are there to PK, if they aren't skulled you don't kill them, so what's changed?
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:35 pmTop
   
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I don't Pk, but with no skull seems like your starting it. Maybe they are from another clan that is Antipk too. Are we the only clan that follows this kind of rule?

My old skills clan had rules similar to ours. We were only allowed to pk people attacking skillers in the wild. When I went to the abyss, I always had someone watching over me from the clan.
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:43 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ October 19, 2008 05:35 pm)
I don't Pk, but with no skull seems like your starting it. Maybe they are from another clan that is Antipk too. Are we the only clan that follows this kind of rule?

My old skills clan had rules similar to ours. We were only allowed to pk people attacking skillers in the wild. When I went to the abyss, I always had someone watching over me from the clan.

Most clans claim to be ARPK and honourable but they end up piling anyone wearing a piece of rune+ xD
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:44 pmTop
   


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The rules as I remember are that you can attack if they have a skull OR intention to pk (armor, weapons). Unless they are blatently skilling (like in an agility course or something), that's their fault for being in a pvp world. In the old wildy, there were only a select few places to defed, but now that it's EVERYWHERE it will almost be impossible to determine who is pking or not. So the rule has to be changed and made more flexible.
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:46 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ October 19, 2008 04:44 pm)
The rules as I remember are that you can attack if they have a skull OR intention to pk (armor, weapons). Unless they are blatently skilling (like in an agility course or something), that's their fault for being in a pvp world. In the old wildy, there were only a select few places to defed, but now that it's EVERYWHERE it will almost be impossible to determine who is pking or not. So the rule has to be changed and made more flexible.

Thats the point. Spot on Randy. You overlook a "skiller in armour" then next thing hes on you with an AGS. You cant tell so you either leave him or attack him, your call
 
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Posted: October 19, 2008 04:48 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Back to Own @ October 19, 2008 04:11 pm)
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 03:59 pm)
does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.

The rules have always been, if they aren't skulled you don't kill them. There was a topic about it saying "Even if they are wearing 10m of stuff , you don't kill them."

i've always killed or attacked people who are skulled or not skulled regardless of what they're wearing o.O

Thats probably gonna have to change sometime soon.
Very soon.

this is back when i was a in a no honour mage bank team called V3 ;o lol chill.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 05:10 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Maddness990 @ October 19, 2008 05:01 pm)
QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 03:59 pm)
does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.

The rules have always been, if they aren't skulled you don't kill them. There was a topic about it saying "Even if they are wearing 10m of stuff , you don't kill them."

From what I know about WG, and I've been here for a while on and off, that has never actually been a rule, but more of a guideline.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 06:05 amTop
   
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you dont attack if they arnt skulled unless they are in a group pking, this is the only time you can pk un-skulled people

people could wear pk gear to protect themselves while skilling, so dont attack unless they attack first.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 08:00 amTop
   
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if there in a pk world theres a chance to die, if you want to skill safely use one of the many many many non pvp wrlds.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 09:53 amTop
   
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The raid you were referring to wasn't really offical but however Arpking was a rule that you could only attack skulled persons or a group of 5 in the wildy and I hope we bring this rule again.
Yes it was a rule since people got warned and suspended for attacking non-skulled. Hell we even had an alliance with three or four other clans.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 11:56 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ October 19, 2008 03:59 pm)
does it really matter, he probably was a PKer, skulled or not.

We don't PK non skulls at all unless they verify they are Pkers.
AntiRPK.
This isn't going to be argued.
You can quit if you like, but WG is not going to kill skillers.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 12:03 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ October 19, 2008 05:44 pm)
The rules as I remember are that you can attack if they have a skull OR intention to pk (armor, weapons). Unless they are blatently skilling (like in an agility course or something), that's their fault for being in a pvp world. In the old wildy, there were only a select few places to defed, but now that it's EVERYWHERE it will almost be impossible to determine who is pking or not. So the rule has to be changed and made more flexible.

They might have PK'd a bit to get the skilling gloves, then decided to skill once they've gotten it, rare chance but it could have happened.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 03:25 pmTop
   


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Lordy hit the nail on the head. If you're unsure if they're a pker or not... ASK THEM, dont assume they're there to pk because I use the pvp worlds all the time because it's quieter and I can get more done, in shorter time.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 03:38 pmTop
   


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why would someone that doesnt want to die or pk go into a pvp world? they are just asking to be killed if they're in pvp world they're pkers theres like 100+ other worlds they can skill in.
 
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But what you're not understanding is this:

I have to kill a certain something for slayer. It's hard pressed to find an open world for these beasts, therefore, I go to a pvp world because I know that a majority of the people on those worlds are doing nothing but pking. That frees up the spot for me. Sure, I take the chance of getting pked, however, I doubt that someone will take much notice to someone that's not skulled.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 04:28 pmTop
   
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I often end up killing PKers in full dharok who don't skull on P2P worlds, it's just how things go. They don't skull so they keep their dh, but they still PK.

If you want, have me booted for killing DH'er PKers. They're PKers and I stand by that, even if they are not skulling.

The same applys for people in Rune on F2P PvP worlds who are not skulled. They are OBVIOUSLY PKing, but are just unwilling to skull. You need to use your common sense when applying the aRPKing ways.
 
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