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 Requirements @ 105
Posted: April 3, 2009 04:25 amTop
   
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QUOTE (slayer123121 @ April 03, 2009 02:01 am)
Let's not forget having req's at 100 is all well and good but the fact is low lvl's=easy ko's.

Lol, want to have a tank contest?
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 04:55 amTop
   
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ENOUGH. All of you.
Don't reduce yourselves to bickering.
We're all in the same boat and we're in this together.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 04:58 amTop
   


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QUOTE (His Lordship @ April 02, 2009 11:55 pm)
ENOUGH. All of you.
Don't reduce yourselves to bickering.
We're all in the same boat and we're in this together.

It's debating you mad Aussie tongue.gif and ya Colin anytime son wub.gif hash.png king.gif


 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 01:50 pmTop
   
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Lowering the reqs to 100+ again would just be a sign of desperation to the rest of the clan world. It also means that we're struggling for numbers. However i would prefer to have it at 110+ or at the very least kept at 105+
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 03:41 pmTop
   
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Bobster, how can you want 110+? if people are fighting over 105 already... geez...


Anyway, I have mixed feeling about this, this was only a try-out, and as I can read (don't know results of the polls) the people are divided.

As for myself, 100+ has been good for over a year now (at least for the time I'm here), and I don't see that big of a change after the 105 was released. So I'd stick with 100+ since most people tend to get it over 105 after a while anyway.

I always hoped we'd be more about the heart of the person, not the levels.

I'm with any decision leadership makes here.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 04:07 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Ansatsublade @ April 03, 2009 03:41 pm)
Bobster, how can you want 110+? if people are fighting over 105 already... geez...


Anyway, I have mixed feeling about this, this was only a try-out, and as I can read (don't know results of the polls) the people are divided.

As for myself, 100+ has been good for over a year now (at least for the time I'm here), and I don't see that big of a change after the 105 was released. So I'd stick with 100+ since most people tend to get it over 105 after a while anyway.

I always hoped we'd be more about the heart of the person, not the levels.

I'm with any decision leadership makes here.


100+ no 105+ atleast it's a way forward. We'll never be able to compete with top end clans if we go down to 100+ again.
Ok, 110 sounds crazy? 107+ then.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 04:11 pmTop
   
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105 is good
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 06:37 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ April 03, 2009 04:07 pm)
100+ no 105+ atleast it's a way forward. We'll never be able to compete with top end clans if we go down to 100+ again.
Ok, 110 sounds crazy? 107+ then.

Who says we are trying to compete with the top clans? Half of the people in this clan won't even show up to a PKRI...if power is what you want, then this clan is not for you.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 07:04 pmTop
   
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WAY to early to tell if 105 is working. And for the record we got worse after the reqs went up because of the mass leavings, and they were all active PvP'ers (well most). Not because we raised the reqs.

So far, I think it's going good. I think a 100+ FA system could be in place though.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 07:37 pmTop
   
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The requirement change caused alot of problems and I don't see much improvement. I think the 100 req was fine/
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 09:14 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (surferguy80 @ April 03, 2009 02:37 pm)
The requirement change caused alot of problems and I don't see much improvement. I think the 100 req was fine/

What problems?
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 09:53 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Colinwarrior @ April 03, 2009 06:37 pm)
QUOTE (Bobster125 @ April 03, 2009 04:07 pm)
100+ no 105+ atleast it's a way forward. We'll never be able to compete with top end clans if we go down to 100+ again.
Ok, 110 sounds crazy? 107+ then.

Who says we are trying to compete with the top clans? Half of the people in this clan won't even show up to a PKRI...if power is what you want, then this clan is not for you.

excuse me? i'm refering to what i read a tertiary saying before on a thread, THEY said if we don't pull this many blah blah blah we won't be able to compete with top clans in the future.

How dare you tell me that this clan is not for me. I was merely voicing my oponion so kindly, jog on. This is the last time i voice my oponion, especially when i get shit back at me for it.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2009 09:58 pmTop
   
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maybe we should make an exception for tanks? so like..
105+ F2p cmb OR 95+ Range with 90+ Def?
 
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Posted: April 4, 2009 06:04 amTop
   
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Why not do a compromise:
Reqirement one: 85 defense. Period.
Requirement two: 100 F2p combat OR 90 range OR 90 mage.

This would solve all problems: One, easy KO's wouldn't be, as 85 Def should prevent that(note: all but 5 of our members meet this already, so it seems fair).
Two, this would allow for tanks, rangers and magers. We might end up with a few level 9X's, but every single one of them would be decent in combat, at least as good as the 105s we have now.

Now, we might need to adjust those numbers, but I wouldn't raise the Def requirement above 85, or the overall combat above 100.

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Tanking: There has been plenty of argument over "low levels can't tank". I am going to just say that it matters more the plain experience of the person involved, as well as the lag of the person to the server.

I would simply provide an incentive: first, show off a way to teach tanking(say one person tanks and one person attempts to kill the first person, after the first person dies, they switch roles), and then create a competition for "longest time tanked". The people with the longest time tanked(and perhaps in a separate competition best attacker) get prizes: Armour/weapons, official forum awards, that sort of thing.

I think that actually might work, and after its all over, people will have better tanking skills.


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Posted: April 4, 2009 06:07 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Bobster125 @ April 03, 2009 09:53 pm)
QUOTE (Colinwarrior @ April 03, 2009 06:37 pm)
QUOTE (Bobster125 @ April 03, 2009 04:07 pm)
100+ no 105+ atleast it's a way forward. We'll never be able to compete with top end clans if we go down to 100+ again.
Ok, 110 sounds crazy? 107+ then.

Who says we are trying to compete with the top clans? Half of the people in this clan won't even show up to a PKRI...if power is what you want, then this clan is not for you.

excuse me? i'm refering to what i read a tertiary saying before on a thread, THEY said if we don't pull this many blah blah blah we won't be able to compete with top clans in the future.

How dare you tell me that this clan is not for me. I was merely voicing my oponion so kindly, jog on. This is the last time i voice my oponion, especially when i get shit back at me for it.

Wow, chillax mate..

I was just saying that most of the people in this clan don't care about competing with the top clans in this game. Didn't mean to offend.
 
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Posted: April 4, 2009 07:30 amTop
   


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Chill guys.
Colin, if Pete didn't feel this was the clan for him, he wouldn't be here.
Pete, Colin is right that some people don't care to compete with top clans.
 
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Posted: April 4, 2009 09:22 amTop
   
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Keep it clean please guys....
I think the 105 reqs are good and that we should keep them, our cmb average has greatly increased and it will do us favours!!
 
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Posted: April 4, 2009 08:15 pmTop
   
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Thank you Robbie for being the voice of reason! wub.gif

and I am a perfect example of what Robbie said about
tanking. I have 99 defense and can't tank worth a dam. dry.gif



 
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Posted: April 4, 2009 09:23 pmTop
   
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Or 100+ FA neko2.gif
 
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Posted: April 4, 2009 09:40 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ April 04, 2009 04:22 am)
our cmb average has greatly increased and it will do us favours!!

Please give me a reason on how our combat average really does us favours?
 
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Posted: April 12, 2009 03:42 pmTop
   


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Its a choice. At 105 you will get people who worked harder but the pool of people at or above that level is more limited.
 
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