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Posted: October 7, 2009 10:31 pm  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
      IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540    |
Yes, but you clearly think there are some people who are inactive amongst the staff or you wouldn't have written this. So can you clarify (perhaps in a PM) who these people are  <-- confuzzled. --------------------    | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 7, 2009 10:47 pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | Hint: A person who plays WoW  -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 8, 2009 10:02 pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Snowzak Group: Emeritus Posts: 1193 Member No.: 5 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | Look, after one or two years of ranting at council members for inactivity I understood one thing: Attack directly if you want any results. Say the names. Implicits & insinuations only brings argument, debate, case by case shit etc. Vehemence and anger get change, not sweet talk. Don't be scared of hurting people, it's what makes them really reconsider themselves. I of course don't have any idea what you're talking about since I'm inactive [/out] --------------------  London RL Meeting attendee - Paris RL meeting attendee Joined WG in October 2005 - Original DG - Ex-Raid Leader Proud Council Member from October 21st 2007 to May 19th 2008 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 9, 2009 02:16 am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | Every time that I rant about council and include direct references to a point that the people know that I am talking about them, drama is started and I am flamed for flaming council.  --------------------      | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 9, 2009 07:21 am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 |
Maybe it's the way you do it The staff want constructive criticism... it is your clan as well as ours and we want support in maintaining clan order and community life. If you go to someone quietly and suggest that they try to improve their activity, I don't think they will mind. -------------------- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 9, 2009 11:09 am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | It was suppose to help motivate the staff over all. Things just seem to have become less important. I thought a refocus from all staff would be good. The really active staff saw what I was doing and I don't think they had a problem. I'm not even staff . . . I am simply a member that loves the clan. When staff has over all activity issues with the members, we see an IA about it. No one is usually being singled out. We even get threats of sweeps. I receive many pms from members and I was just trying to help . . . Reread my first post it is clear that I like all of you and just want an active staff that is willing to do what they said they would when they applied for their positions. I would not be hearing complaints or put in the position to make this post if you all were doing your part. It was not directed at any one of you. It is a general post just asking staff to be more active. Why do I need to single anyone out? Those who are doing great know they are and those who are slacking can self examine. (Owen being the exception here. He decided to take it to a personal level. I told him at a personal level in this post what I think an event leader is from my own point of view and the official view of WG. I don't think it is necessary for me to debate each and every staff member for the entire clan to read. Read level two.) --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 9, 2009 01:51 pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 |
Bollocks did I take it to a personal level. -------------------- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 10, 2009 06:22 am | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 387 Member No.: 2058 Joined: August 16, 1938 Total Events Attended: 38 | alright, Heres my stand on all of this. And i couldn't care less if it makes you guys hate me or love me. I hope it makes you love me but I dont care as long as it makes you guys open your eyes and makes WG a better place for everyone. Ok so i just joined WG not to long ago coming from 'The' Clan. I noticed a ton of differances. And i talked to Rachy about them and thats what got her up to making this post. So to start. If theres a weekly event set for every Monday at 4pm est time. Then every Monday at 4pm that event should be held. Members shouldn't have to set in the lobby and wait for owen to come back because another event leader doesn't want to hold the event. This has happened to me. This makes it look like staff isn't willing to step up. If theres a time for an event then do what you have to so the event happens then no matter what. Next thing is being active. If staff cant be active and keep there end up by holding there events then members wont be active either. I set in the lobby for 2 hours waiting for owen to come back because leecable didn't want to host the event of peng hunting when it was supost to be going on. That kills it for me. That makes me wonder what i've gotten into. When the staff isn't willing to step up to the plate and back eachother up theres huge problems waiting to happen. If your a staff member and your not willing to step up to the plate or your to busy in real life to keep up with everything you should be doing then step down from your staff spot and let someone that is able to complete the task take your spot. Its 2:21am and i've lost what else i wanted to say so i'm going to head to bed now. I hope to hear from you all soon. And people please make sure that lordy read this... --------------------  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: October 10, 2009 03:19 pm | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Snowzak Group: Emeritus Posts: 1193 Member No.: 5 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | well pvp wise it's true things seem a tad inactive, there aren't really enough events to fit everybody and get two events per week... Making it quite hard to graduate if you're not online at 10-11pm GMT, 4-5 EST -------------------- London RL Meeting attendee - Paris RL meeting attendee Joined WG in October 2005 - Original DG - Ex-Raid Leader Proud Council Member from October 21st 2007 to May 19th 2008 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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