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Posted: December 7, 2009 04:32 pm  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
      IRC Nickname: ThisIsUnique Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1664 Member No.: 1417 Joined: October 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141    | keanu half of the posts on this topic r urs, stop it ... I had to leave after i died twice because it was 11 pm when i had exams the next day. <= valid reason is valid that was like when we ran into gladz at altar --------------------   | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 04:41 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Dallar Group: Event Leader Posts: 1899 Member No.: 1957 Joined: July 16, 2009 Total Events Attended: 137 | Was there the whole time but I didn't come on TS because I was on the phone with my dad. Haven't spoken to him for one year and a half because he lives in the U.S.. I wasn't 100% focused at this event but at least I showed up and did what I had to. --------------------  Click me if you need cheering up - I guarantee happiness will blossom | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 05:47 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | Keanu...you like to spam the shit out of a topic with useless, unappreciated comments. They waste my time. I apologize I couldn't attend the raid, had a family time tree decorating session. --------------------   | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 06:23 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 |
Half? I count 4 out of 28 posts, and if that's "spamming the shit out of" a topic, we're all fucked. At least mine weren't either "I agree" or an excuse for leaving early. --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 06:25 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | Not this just topic but most of the topics on these forums. <3 -------------------- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 07:53 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Sxe_Asher Group: Clan Friend Posts: 276 Member No.: 2130 Joined: November 14, 2009 Total Events Attended: 15 |
This doesn't work at all. Some raids aren't even 2 hours long. What if someone can stay for an hour and 45 minutes? do they not deserve the attendance? What about an hour and a half? -------------------- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 08:14 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 |
I'll keep that in mind Jen <3 I agree with Asher (for once lmao), a set duration for attendance points on raids (or anything for that matter) isn't the solution. We need to rethink the events first, as I said before - we lost attendance after we changed the style of the raid and stopped catering for what the members want to do to have fun and enjoy themselves. Fighting NI fairly deep when there's a good chance of ownage, a semi-decent opponent and the opportunity to get some good drops is something I'd be more than willing to sacrifice a few sets for. Fighting huge clans down in shallow with single and safe spots everywhere I'm not so keen on. Maybe others think the same? -------------------- [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 7, 2009 08:34 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 |
I agree with Keanu on the point that events aren't really doing what is fun. Unless we've got the options, we can't hold ourselves in the low levels of the wilderness because people our level will be able to tank us long enough to teleport out or eat up and get to a safespot. There isn't any fun in running between BH and CWA for two hours getting maybe five kills. The problem then lies in the fact that that scenario is what people think of when you said "raid". So people think up a reason to not go and then the raid can't actually go any deeper because there aren't enough people. I remember a system we used back in the day, where if we didn't get enough people, the entire event was canceled. We'd mass up in Edgeville, and then the event would get called off because we didn't have 20 people there. We didn't want to have to hunt level 10 wilderness because the chance of escape is large because a single mistake is fatal. Instead we either went deep, or stayed out. I think we should employ that system, and see how it works, even if for just a few events. Start hosting raids, and calling them off if not enough people show up. The people who always attend will get the short end of the stick here, yes, but we already know their hearts are in the right place, and I'd hope they'd understand what the system is meant to do. Then people who so graciously make the time for WG will start to get frustrated, at which point they'll understand how the first group felt EVERY raid - getting ready for basically nothing. The goal is to get enough people to realize that they actually ARE hurting the clan by not attending events, because as it stands there is no clear repercussion for skipping an event. Maybe a verbal or forum warning, but that's just to the individual. If they start to see events getting canceled because there aren't enough people, they'll know it was them and one of two things will happen: 1) They change because they feel guilty 2) They leave because they feel guilty Both are in WG's interest. --------------------   | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 8, 2009 01:25 am | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mmangler Group: Emeritus Posts: 1595 Member No.: 1580 Joined: December 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 165 | I read some very good information here. Raiding seems to be an open ended experience with some pretty flexible goals. I believe there should be a set mission and a set amount of time for the mission. People make time for these events and in some instances cannot stay longer. Unfortunately, sometimes that is at the time of fight. I believe people started dropping out after an hour. Was it because we went shallow? Started dieing? I suspect it was the time but who knows. -------------------- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 8, 2009 03:21 am | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | The best part is people feel guilty enough to post excuses but the people not posting excuses are often your worst cases. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Posted: December 8, 2009 10:21 am | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Kung_man149 Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 1054 Member No.: 2111 Joined: October 30, 2009 Total Events Attended: 79 | i wasnt there due to a BIG family emergency..my grandmother was admitted to the hospital due to a heart attack so me and my mother were there with her for the entire day sorry i couldnt make it guys -------------------- Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔ <+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour <+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH   | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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