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Posted: March 14, 2010 04:21 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173    | I guess giving him another chance was fair. But if we abused it what can we do? Shame on you George, telling us about blue waffle when we're on a 2 week challenge. --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 04:35 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1545 Member No.: 1451 Joined: November 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 91 | Lets be honest, nobody really took the time to talk to him, give him a chance once finding out he was pete. I did and got to see he was differently, he said to me maany time over the past month how people started treating him like bobster and not like he was treated as webberson. Sad on so many levels, people shouldn't have just assumend he was a bad person once going from webberson to bobster, was the same person, but treated very differently. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 04:45 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kcross|RDC Group: Banned Posts: 2535 Member No.: 1723 Joined: February 16, 2009 Total Events Attended: 202 | Even if you're right Billy, and I know what you mean about him thinking he's been treated more like Bobster than Webberson, the proper way to handle things would not be to flame Gorge. Honestly, how would flaming make things any better for him? He obviously showed he didn't care anymore, and well... I guess we don't either. -------------------- Kcross73 – KevCross – Kevin Proud Trial Guardian: December 24, 2009 – January 10, 2010 Proud Guardian: January 10, 2010 – February 13, 2010 Proud Event Leader: February 13, 2010 – November 27, 2010 Proud Council: November 27, 2010 – July 5, 2011 | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 05:01 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Brian|30 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 565 Member No.: 1547 Joined: December 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 75 | If I pretended to be someone I wasn't, I'd probably be treated differently as well. Bobster is Bobster, and we shouldn't just treat him like someone he's not. If he felt like he no longer was welcomed, than he should have respectfully left. But instead, like normal, he goes and does something to get banned. When he told us who he was, he said he expected some people to lose their respect for him. Well he was right, and people aren't wrong for losing that respect. -------------------- Dragon Claws Drops: 1 2 Dragonic Visage Drops: 1 Ruined Dragon Drops: 1 Abyssal Whip Drops: 1 2 | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 05:09 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | I honestly thought he had changed. He put on a great show when he was Webberson and it sold me that he had changed. And also, he apparently really wanted to be WG for him to go through that to just be in WG. This shocks me to a point that I believe he had changed. It doesn't shock me that his behavior is like this though. Goodbye and welcome to being the first person banned since the massive unbanning. --------------------      | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 05:57 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | he got his chance and fucked up. Thats all there is too it. Bye Bobster. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 07:53 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Squelchyfish Group: Emeritus Posts: 625 Member No.: 38 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 71 | didnt know about this, but his post on the gear check like "cant be assed to show you" pissed me off. :L --------------------   "Take lobsters because I don't want us to die" -HisLordship on WG pvp PKing, 26 April 2010. | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 10:15 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | More members should have tried to give him the chance. He could have kept up the facade but he chose honesty. Yeah he blew the chance, but it wasn't much of a chance when half the members were not willing to give hiom a shot. And That is what I despite about our community. We've fallen a long way. Take it from the resident old timer. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 10:23 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | He always was a prick. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 01:16 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: `Nath Group: Guest Posts: 1897 Member No.: 1873 Joined: May 11, 2009 Total Events Attended: 70 |
And this attitude is what made him feel he couldn't continue as Webberson after he came clean, I'm sure if people actually got to know him and listened to him instead of ignoring what he said then you might have seen he has changed, and still has changed. For one i'm ashamed to see people flame a guy after hes banned, its pathetic. You all to scared to say it to his face? you got to wait until hes banned? The once glorious community of WG turned into this. --------------------
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Posted: March 14, 2010 01:17 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I have to agree with Gene. It is a sad day for the community when we can't try to accept people and we end up pushing them to act as if they don't care. Pete hates me and I had to end the friendship we once had. I still wish him good luck in real life. I hope he someday becomes the policeman he dreams of being. Good bye Pete. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 01:41 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 | I hope you all know that Pete can read this, he has a dynamic IP that changes daily. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 01:46 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 |
He would need a forum account with Guardian+ permissions or ex-member to see it though. -------------------- [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 02:51 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Or a leak. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 03:51 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112 |
He's e-fucking one. Use your brainz0rs. -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 04:35 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | people don't change, its the choices they make that change the outlook from an objective perspective. i'm quite cynical about "Second Chances" because of the fact that in life you only have One shot. thus second chances to me aren't worth it as they rely on cheer luck than one's own dominance. on a side note, how does someone who has lied come out to be true in the end? a similar effect is like saying that a zebra is a black horse with white stripes and vise versa. the truth itself is relative to one's own reality to perceive what is real. being true to one-self is beneficial even if its a lie to the rest of the world which in my opinion would itself have become a greater proof of change within itself. learned something new indeed from this ordeal. gonna have to apply it to my real life in case a similar case comes up. i have the precedence to make a clear conscise choice. =D --------------------  Goals 2011  | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 04:39 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Brian|30 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 565 Member No.: 1547 Joined: December 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 75 | The facade did nothing. If he kept lying to WG, how is that going to somehow keep him an honest person? He snuck into WG without most of WG knowing, and will probably do it again given the chance, whether to pretend he's changed again, or flame us for the third time because the council is too nice and understanding. He didn't deserve the second chance, and you can't expect the members who knew who he really was to give him that chance, because keeping up a lie wouldn't straighten him out. I'm sorry to those who think WG is now too harsh, but you have to understand that when someone does something to hurt the community (ie causing drama from flaming members and getting banned), you can't blame US, the innocent members of WG for his flaming because we didn't respect him. Council has to look at it from only a council's perspective, no matter how much of a friend he was. I think this is the main problem with the WG council at the moment. Friendship fogs up clear clan management thinking. So indirectly, friendship causes drama, which is a big problem for WG, and always has been. I'm not saying, "HAVE NO FRIENDS", but you have to let the friends who've done something wrong in the clan go, and treat them like any other member who has done the same crime, who is not your friend. -------------------- Dragon Claws Drops: 1 2 Dragonic Visage Drops: 1 Ruined Dragon Drops: 1 Abyssal Whip Drops: 1 2 | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 05:19 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | agree with brian with the followings. 1. second chances aren't a vitable option 2. the need for new policies and enforcement options just a suggestion: council needs to get a copy of "the prince". although its behind our times the tactics given are an asset of the upmost prestige. -------------------- Goals 2011 | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 06:00 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | He wasn't different as Webberson. Lefty knows what I'm talking about, there were cracks in his facade since the beginning. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 06:42 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
you'd no all about that. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 08:46 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | I could care less if he can read this or not. It isn't that he got a second chance and blew it. HE LIED about who he was. He was still the same person, the shame of it is to me that you are all surprised. He was always abusive, he just kept his temper for a while. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 08:51 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
I agree with gusmighster. I wasn't scared and actually did tell him he's a prick, Onathe. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 09:10 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | i never met him as a prick. we always did great bizness with dclaw lending =D so i am thankful for the geepees! -------------------- Goals 2011 | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 10:50 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 |
*high fives Joe* We predicted he would get banned even when he was Webberson. We really did. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: March 14, 2010 11:06 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Majeic Group: Ex-Member Posts: 775 Member No.: 1671 Joined: January 28, 2009 Total Events Attended: 77 | Didn't expect this from him. Was a good member for a few weeks, dunno what happened. Disappointed. --------------------    | ||||
Bobster125 banned