Agree and disagree.

Losing the number of rune sets is definitely not a sure measure of loyalty, more so a measure of one's capacity. However, if it is a surer measure in willingness to sacrifice in order to gain ranks - it depends on the clan's directives to want to go that length and why - and even if the person do not value ranks personally, you do what you can. But you should not be penalized for doing your best, not by rune sets, but by efforts - there's no telling, bar none.

Hence, its not in fairness to gauge those who does so, losing 15 rune sets, indefinitely valuing ranks beyond all else.

Knowing who values ranks more, provided it is in all fairness of conditions that gives no other reasons, yes, quitting WG - a show of loyalty to ranks above all else.

P.S. I never had 15 rune sets to lose.
 
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"I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." - Barack Obama

Agree and disagree.

Losing the number of rune sets is definitely not a sure measure of loyalty, more so a measure of one's capacity. However, if it is a surer measure in willingness to sacrifice in order to gain ranks - it depends on the clan's directives to want to go that length and why - and even if the person do not value ranks personally, you do what you can. But you should not be penalized for doing your best, not by rune sets, but by efforts - there's no telling, bar none.

Hence, its not in fairness to gauge those who does so, losing 15 rune sets, indefinitely valuing ranks beyond all else.

Knowing who values ranks more, provided it is in all fairness of conditions that gives no other reasons, yes, quitting WG - a show of loyalty to ranks above all else.

P.S. I never had 15 rune sets to lose.

Well, yes, you are right that how many rune sets a person is willing to lose is not actually that reflective of how much a person values ranks. It is still more indicative of how much money a person has to spare.

The point I am trying to get across is that most of those members in the top 10 clans are there primarily because they like having a top 10 rank, and not because they are loyal to the clan. If one of these top 10 clans suddenly started losing wars and dropping ranks, many of what Abs refers to as their "loyal" members would start going to other top 10 clans. And yes, I have seen the same thing with WG, where people are willing to sacrifice pixels when we are gaining ranks, but yet will quit when we start losing ranks.
 
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Agree and disagree.

Losing the number of rune sets is definitely not a sure measure of loyalty, more so a measure of one's capacity. However, if it is a surer measure in willingness to sacrifice in order to gain ranks - it depends on the clan's directives to want to go that length and why - and even if the person do not value ranks personally, you do what you can. But you should not be penalized for doing your best, not by rune sets, but by efforts - there's no telling, bar none.

Hence, its not in fairness to gauge those who does so, losing 15 rune sets, indefinitely valuing ranks beyond all else.

Knowing who values ranks more, provided it is in all fairness of conditions that gives no other reasons, yes, quitting WG - a show of loyalty to ranks above all else.

P.S. I never had 15 rune sets to lose.

Well, yes, you are right that how many rune sets a person is willing to lose is not actually that reflective of how much a person values ranks. It is still more indicative of how much money a person has to spare.

The point I am trying to get across is that most of those members in the top 10 clans are there primarily because they like having a top 10 rank, and not because they are loyal to the clan. If one of these top 10 clans suddenly started losing wars and dropping ranks, many of what Abs refers to as their "loyal" members would start going to other top 10 clans. And yes, I have seen the same thing with WG, where people are willing to sacrifice pixels when we are gaining ranks, but yet will quit when we start losing ranks.

Edited: Nvm. Written a whole bunch too much earlier. I'm just saying if you're a powerhouse and that's what your priority is, such as the top 10s, its natural to get members who are "loyal" to serve that clan's purpose. And when people starts quitting when we lose ranks, to the least we know who stayed for the kind of loyalty we are looking for. Which, if we are not looking at gaining ranks as loyalty, then better not let number of rune sets to lose be something too much of a concern. Cheers.
 
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"I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." - Barack Obama

What this dude said^^

I think the most I've lost in one fight for WG is 2-3 sets..I'm not a returner, I never will be.

I don't have time to sit on the comp for hours just making money for rune sets. I also don't have time to sit there and fight in a PKRI for hours on end. I'm a warring type of dude. Always have been, always will be.

Btw: loyalty has nothing to do with how many rune sets you are willing to lose. End of story.

BTW#2: MOCH YOU ARE AWESOME AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST SONGS IN YOUR SIG
 
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