That's not what AntiRpking is. It is what most people think it is though, which is why we have so much trouble enforcing it. AntiRpking isn't some rigid code of rights and wrongs that you just do, at it's baseline it's Pk'ing ETHICALLY. Regardless of how the game evolves that will never go away. There will still be ethical decisions to be made, it's not just about whether or not we kill skillers. A huge part of it is if a WG raid of 50-75 people (yeah) runs into a lower level group of 3 PK'ers barely into the 100s who are out to have some fun. Is it ETHICAL for us to kill them? I doubt it.

There are risks to being in a PK'ing world. AntiRpking says that regardless of those risks, we still shouldn't act like dicks "because they knew the risks beforehand." It's about ethics, fairness, and being a decent person.

And you should be. But you get points from me for being honest.

I never have since joining WG. I can honestly testify to that.
 
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That's an interesting point. Right now, we would, without a second thought.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

That's not what AntiRpking is. It is what most people think it is though, which is why we have so much trouble enforcing it. AntiRpking isn't some rigid code of rights and wrongs that you just do, at it's baseline it's Pk'ing ETHICALLY. Regardless of how the game evolves that will never go away. There will still be ethical decisions to be made, it's not just about whether or not we kill skillers. A huge part of it is if a WG raid of 50-75 people (yeah) runs into a lower level group of 3 PK'ers barely into the 100s who are out to have some fun. Is it ETHICAL for us to kill them? I doubt it.

There are risks to being in a PK'ing world. AntiRpking says that regardless of those risks, we still shouldn't act like dicks "because they knew the risks beforehand." It's about ethics, fairness, and being a decent person.

And you should be. But you get points from me for being honest.

I never have since joining WG. I can honestly testify to that.

yea pretty much agree with this guy......

haven't killed a skiller since I joined wg.
 
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That's not what AntiRpking is. It is what most people think it is though, which is why we have so much trouble enforcing it. AntiRpking isn't some rigid code of rights and wrongs that you just do, at it's baseline it's Pk'ing ETHICALLY. Regardless of how the game evolves that will never go away. There will still be ethical decisions to be made, it's not just about whether or not we kill skillers. A huge part of it is if a WG raid of 50-75 people (yeah) runs into a lower level group of 3 PK'ers barely into the 100s who are out to have some fun. Is it ETHICAL for us to kill them? I doubt it.

There are risks to being in a PK'ing world. AntiRpking says that regardless of those risks, we still shouldn't act like dicks "because they knew the risks beforehand." It's about ethics, fairness, and being a decent person.

And you should be. But you get points from me for being honest.

I never have since joining WG. I can honestly testify to that.

yea pretty much agree with this guy......

haven't killed a skiller since I joined wg.

+1, i never attack non pkers on raids
 
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That's not what AntiRpking is. It is what most people think it is though, which is why we have so much trouble enforcing it. AntiRpking isn't some rigid code of rights and wrongs that you just do, at it's baseline it's Pk'ing ETHICALLY. Regardless of how the game evolves that will never go away. There will still be ethical decisions to be made, it's not just about whether or not we kill skillers. A huge part of it is if a WG raid of 50-75 people (yeah) runs into a lower level group of 3 PK'ers barely into the 100s who are out to have some fun. Is it ETHICAL for us to kill them? I doubt it.

There are risks to being in a PK'ing world. AntiRpking says that regardless of those risks, we still shouldn't act like dicks "because they knew the risks beforehand." It's about ethics, fairness, and being a decent person

Ethics is morality with loopholes. The ethics have changed with the game that was my original point. If Im in lv 50 wild and watch a long fight and 1 guy dies, Id have the oppurtunity to get an easy kill but I dont, Id even go a step further and offer the guy food. I consider myself an honor pker, that it is one of the main factors that attracted me to join wg. I dont want to offend whatsoever, nor do I mean to disrespect your history with wg, but youre retired, when was the last time youve pked/played rs? I cant take your opinion serious when it comes to this subject. Im not new to rs I know how things were a few years ago, and I really wish it was still that way. If 3 lvl 100s are at greaters just to have a good time they still know the risk they are taking, if 50-75 wg run into them they WILL kill them(speaking based on every single time Ive been in the wilderness with wg, no matter who was leading). Its just a game, its just pixels, its just 1 pk set that they lost. In my opinion this attitude would just damage our already delicate standing in the wilderness (for what its worth, see last sentence of my first post lol). I could say more but I think Im rambling its late
 
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This all started over a member killing someone who was afk at bandits.....in a PVP WORLD. Last time I checked the bandits camp was available on all servers. The line has blurred between whats skilling and not.
 
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The past is the past - talk about present

If on a PVP/Bounty world - I feel it's fair game nowadays.. But I stick to WG rules, it's clear we are still sticking to it (Anti-Rpk)- so I shall.
 
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Bryan, it's because I've been here so long that I can see things happening. This argument is not at all new; I know because I've been involved in it, literally, for years. I've argued and debated and thrown hissy fits, everything I can possibly think of to make people look around and realize what a shithole they're building for themselves.

One time I threw a temper tantrum so bad there's probably still people here who remember it.

It never works though. Nobody ever listens. They're happy to be followers. Skunks. They look at the clan community, and figure whatever works for them works for us too. We should fit in. We should do everything they do the way they do it. Then we can hang out at the same parties and be accepted and not get made fun of in the hallways.

It's bullcrap. That thinking has killed WG more times than I can count.

WG used to MEAN SOMETHING goddammit. We used to stand for honor and integrity and fair play in a sea of thousands of angsty teenage pricks who get off online by taking advantage of players not as well off as they are. They roll into a PvP area and just kill whatever they can and run from whatever offers them a true challenge.

I'm not some sort of maniacal zealot. And I'm not really aiming this at you Bryan so much as saying that this is a real issue and it's bigger than you guys are giving it credit for. If you want to see WG rise, RISE UP. Make something of yourselves. Dare to be different. Dare to stand up for what you believe in. Dare to make a difference.

The clan community needs to see that happen. They need to see someone step up out of the quagmire of this shitty pathetic little game and say that there's more to this. Honor is not dead and it's damn well never out of date. But I guess none of this matters. I mean, WG has done fine doing things this way the last few years, right?

*insert scornful laugh here*

Maybe you're right. Maybe I am out of date. It'll certainly be easier for you all to just fit in with the crowd. Smack the poor kids around and act cool. Fit in. But you know what? When WG fits in, then we don't stand out. There's nothing to make us different from any of the thousands of other pathetic clans in this pathetic little game.

So when WG stops standing up for itself, it will die. And it will die pathetically, alone, in a gutter, and the other clans will pick our bones clean and laugh at the remains. It's not what we do when it's easy damn it, it's how we act when the goings tough! That's now, if we bend we break. But if we dare to be different, we can thrive.

I hope Zak doesn't mind me borrowing something he wrote years and years ago. I think it fits. WG isn't a clan it's a group of people who can ascribe to common ideals. I've watched those ideals get warped and twisted beyond recognizability and now people want to just toss them aside even though the damage is self-inflicted.

Grow some balls.

If you want to see WG thrive, do something about it.

My 0.02
 
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The past is the past - talk about present

If on a PVP/Bounty world - I feel it's fair game nowadays.. But I stick to WG rules, it's clear we are still sticking to it (Anti-Rpk)- so I shall.

I don't think you quite understand what I was saying...

I was just pointing out similarities between the past and the present in regards to Brian's reasoning for saying everyone on a PvP/BH world is fair game.

ARPK = Anti RANDOM Player Killing

This means no attacking of people not looking to fight.

This means people training with brawlers are NOT fair game because they're there to skill, not do combat.

This means that NOT everyone is fair game.

Sure the past is the past, and sure we have to look to the future, but does that mean we have to burn all remnants of our history and foundation? To stray from our core code of ARPKing would result in the loss of everything that is WG.
 
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So you're saying i killed you before Mmangler?
I don't recall the last time i killed someone in Wildy aside from my time in Raining Chaos.
 
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So you're saying i killed you before Mmangler?
I don't recall the last time i killed someone in Wildy aside from my time in Raining Chaos.

Alain, read that again. I think you will find sarcasm in it. I believe he really is saying that he only has gone to pk-ing since coming to WG too.
 
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