So I checked my IRC logs dating back to June 2nd 2010.

Number of times I have kicked Joe in the past half a year: 1

Nice try though.

Army, I don't recall deliberately adding you to the history, could you show me where in particular you're mentioned, and I'll edit it as appropriate?

Thank you for the constructive feedback and criticism everyone.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

So I checked my IRC logs dating back to June 2nd 2010.

Number of times I have kicked Joe in the past half a year: 1

Nice try though.

Army, I don't recall deliberately adding you to the history, could you show me where in particular you're mentioned, and I'll edit it as appropriate?

Thank you for the constructive feedback and criticism everyone.

Have you changed? You still have that same attitude that a lot of us are sick with, in this quoted post. Is there anything wrong with saying "I've only kicked you once in the past year" and showing your log? Apparently there is. You can't resist the "nice try though" comment. You need to understand that a post like that from joe is typical, he's waiting for a response from you.

In hindsight, it's just best to be humble about that which you do. Very few people would appreciate a boaster, however the opposite can be said for somebody which is humble.
 
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"Journeys are what brings us happiness,
Not the destination."

~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~

I've removed it altogether.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

So I checked my IRC logs dating back to June 2nd 2010.

Number of times I have kicked Joe in the past half a year: 1

Nice try though.

Army, I don't recall deliberately adding you to the history, could you show me where in particular you're mentioned, and I'll edit it as appropriate?

Thank you for the constructive feedback and criticism everyone.

Are you even reading the replies? That post is EXACTLY what I and I think a lot of people hate about you...

Second, why should you have half op if you obviously can't use it productively? I don't think it was funny in the least bit. You don't need half op for any reason at all and I don't see why you still have it when you obviously lack the maturity to handle it.


Joe I read your post objectively, and continued to scroll down and saw your sig.
It is hypocritical of you to question his attitude when your own is in serious doubt.

If you clicked the link you would know I have 430 kills and 87 deaths in wars and a 25-15-1 record with WG. I do have some basis for the claim. It's also something called satire, since every post I make gets removed I was forced to use other means to prove the point. I'll remove it once he learns the lesson.

This is not a democratic system. Get it out of your head that punishment should be consistent.
We aim to be objective and as consistent for the most part, but this is a dictatorship.
I punish with the members' personality in mind; their capacity to change and reconcile, their maturity.

So everything is based on your judgment?... Absolute power corrupts absolutely, no one person should be able to make a decision completely on their own without oversight.

Equal punishment doesn't work Joe. For instance, some people take the warn logs seriously - they see that their actions have manifested negatively and they learn from it. Others use the warn levels as currency; there's no learning curve. They take it and wait for them to disappear so they can cause commotion later on. That's why in some exceptional cases, I've not allowed warn levels to decrease.

I could either cry in the corner every time I got a warn level and never say another word or I can laugh it off and keep fighting for change. Call it currency if you want to but I disagree.

How I've handled Keanu's situation is one of the decisions I'm very proud of. I can see that he's going to do his best to change and to his credit, he's taking our criticism of him and not fighting us every step of the way. He's really listening. If he's listening, then this has been an effective resolution. The reason I don't do this all the time is because I can't think of many people who could have a topic inviting criticism, and then take it all to heart. Most people including myself would get very defensive, and some might close themselves off from WG.

See most recent post for contrary evidence.

For most others, this method would never work, so I'd resort to suspensions or something else to get the point across... but I always start by talking. If they can't be reasoned with, it gets more and more sever until eventually they are forced to leave either by expulsion or being outcast from the clan and deciding to quit. Fortunately for Keanu, despite his other personality shortcomings, he does have the ability to change from conversation.


See above response and relevant post.

I'm not a jury, I'm a parent. I judge according to what's most effective on a particular person. Get the idea of democracy out of your head.

That YOU think is the most effective, I'd much rather have a jury or some other judge because you've done poorly in my case.

EDIT: If Keanu DDS's on a raid, he'll be given the appropriate warn level. Asfor post count Joe, we've discussed this. Keanu and others post heaps of trash and spam as you are better known for, but they compensate by writing up some quality posts as well. If you had made more posts like the one above, your post count would never have been deducted.

Just because I don't a 10 page essay to make a 1 sentence point doesn't make their posts better.

EDIT2: Also, Keanu is not staff.

Then why does he half op? That should be reserved for staff not a historian.


I think Kyle and BTO have made some of the best points but I cbf quoting any more posts.

 
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Half op and full op should be strictly reserved for Staff and Staff alone.
And as you said, Keanu is not staff.
 
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Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔
<+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour
<+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH

I'm going to say this once.
He has his rank and he has recognition for being WG's historian but I believe half op should be strictly reserved for staff members.
 
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Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔
<+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour
<+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH

My gosh, I don't know what you want the guy to do? Sit here and just take more and more flak from people? If we must take away the half-op of Keanu that's fine, but seriously if Keanu defending himself is getting on your nerves you all need to change. If you attack someone you should expect retaliation. Stop complaining about him defending himself.
 
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They call me the Master woof