Agreed, stop soothing Gene like he's a frightened puppy. Or in simpler terms stop being a bunch of kiss asses.
 
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July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011

Completely agree with David, honestly. What does every clan have that WG doesn't?

It's completely active leadership.


I don't mean this "login for two hours a day, and post every now and then" activity.

When I was in Ancient Fury, Every single member of their staff was ALWAYS on RS, constantly interacting with everyone, posting on any topic no matter how dumb/stupid they may seem. They weren't seen as this high person that runs a clan, but as a friend that you can have a conversation with.

Same with Solace. All their leaders were ALWAYS online playing RS, actually enjoying the game. The difference between their(Solace and AF) leadership and our leadership is the fact that they actually enjoy playing this game.
Not knocking anyone here, but people truly only follow under those that lead by example.

Not wanting to play a game that your clan was created on doesn't really look all that well to new members. If you show the whole "I do all this stuff as a leader of WG, arranging wars and leading events, and all this stuff, and I still manage to have fun playing RS, why don't you?" (Without actually saying it of course) mentality, it encourages activity. It's a trickle-down effect, I guess.

Gene, I can honestly say, with my near 3 years in WG, I consider you one of the greatest friends I've ever made on RS. BUT, even then, I still feel the gap between us because of your position. Currently it feels as if you only immerse yourself within the community when you feel the need to, and post on topics you only find to your liking.

Not a personal attack post, but I'm just pointing out the difference between WG's leadership and others.

This post is not directed at Eugene himself, but every single member of staff.
 
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Well I stand corrected
 
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Quit for 6 months completely.
 
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If you are describing playing as a chore, you should step down.

I agree with Aragon that you don't necessarily have to be extremely active on Runescape, but you should at least be very active at events in your timezone.

I've stayed up many weeks for the aussie raid (around 4 am usually my time) and not seen you there Gene.

To me that is the one event a week I expect you to always be there considering you are an aussie and the leader of this clan. Only exception should be if you have real life matters to attend to as that obviously takes precedence. If real life gets to be too much of a hassle and you have little time for Runescape anymore, the responsible choice is to step down.
 
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That's weird. I'm usually there. Maybe you had bad luck with the ones you picked.
Ask the regulars. I'm there almost every week.

As for stepping down Die, I'll think about it.
It's been like this for at least a year now.
 
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That's weird. I'm usually there. Maybe you had bad luck with the ones you picked.
Ask the regulars. I'm there almost every week.

As for stepping down Die, I'll think about it.
It's been like this for at least a year now.

I've seen you at a good number of the aussie raids I've been at but there are times I've had to lead the aussie raid because no aussies were on. I don't expect you to be at all of them, but I'd say as a leader 75-80% is reasonable for the main aussie event of the week.

I'm not telling you outright you need to step down.

But if you are serious that playing Runescape has become a chore to you, then yes, I think you should definitely consider stepping down.

Primary leaders should not be forcing themselves to play the game their clan is involved in.

Think about it, and if Runescape really is that dull to you now, I would advise stepping down, and possibly quitting Runescape or at least taking a break for awhile and maybe come back later and see if you feel refreshed. I know Veph has quit multiple times for awhile at a time and he comes back and stays for awhile longer.
 
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"Journeys are what brings us happiness,
Not the destination."

~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~

That's not at all what I am trying to be. (Not sure who you were referring to though)

I at least mean what I say and I only want the best for WG.

Gene can NOT step down, but other people can be there to help him.
I don't see taking the rank as "Founder" or "Co-Leader", or even joining the council, to be like stepping down. I find that to be a very good solution. And then have one or two other members - perhaps of the current council - be Primary or "Co-Leader".

But for Gene to step down and be an Elite Guardian or Emeritus? No. Never.
 
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Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left.

I have to say I disagree with this part. I believe WG should be preparing, building a core member list and an active leadership BEFORE the return of the wilderness. That way we can get a head start and we can steam on with our PvP goals instead of falling behind because of elections etc.
 
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I have to say I disagree with this part. I believe WG should be preparing, building a core member list and an active leadership BEFORE the return of the wilderness. That way we can get a head start and we can steam on with our PvP goals instead of falling behind because of elections etc.

What he said and also:

I don't think anybody is saying Gene should step down to elite guardian or emeritus.

Of course he will stay as the founder rank, and can continue to do all the things he is currently doing.

It is just that I and a few other members would like a primary that is much more involved in the pvp aspect of this clan, and as Gene stated he rarely gets on Runescape and he described it as a chore when he does.

I don't dispute he's a good community leader, but I think we need somebody strong to push this clan forward pvp-wise and somebody who barely on Runescape doesn't fit that job description.
 
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I have to say I disagree with this part. I believe WG should be preparing, building a core member list and an active leadership BEFORE the return of the wilderness. That way we can get a head start and we can steam on with our PvP goals instead of falling behind because of elections etc.

What he said and also:

I don't think anybody is saying Gene should step down to elite guardian or emeritus.

Of course he will stay as the founder rank, and can continue to do all the things he is currently doing.

It is just that I and a few other members would like a primary that is much more involved in the pvp aspect of this clan, and as Gene stated he rarely gets on Runescape and he described it as a chore when he does.

I don't dispute he's a good community leader, but I think we need somebody strong to push this clan forward pvp-wise and somebody who barely on Runescape doesn't fit that job description.

It's called a Warlord. It doesn't have to be primary leader..

I don't understand it. Why do we need someone to guide us when we should be old enough to rely and build on our own skills. It's like when people keep saying that everything would be better if BTO was here to lead wars etc.. Please shut up. He's not here. I also get upset by the fact that we need flashmovies, BIG banners... TONS of graphic promotion to motivate us to meet up in big numbers to the events. Please..

We shall not forget that leading a clan is much more than going to wars. Gene's gotta be the most wellknown and respected leader in the clan community. It wouldn't be a fact if he was inactive. Maybe he is not very active ingame but there's alot more to leading a clan than just gaining levels and leading wars...

We do not need a superhero to carry us when we should be able to carry ourselves.

Darth just got promoted to Warlord and I'm sure if we just trust his skills and help his cause by showing up at his future events, we should do fine. I have lots of faith in him and I'm looking forward to it.
 
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