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Posted: February 12, 2011 09:53 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1110 Member No.: 2430 Joined: October 14, 2010 Total Events Attended: 77    | Great Post, Respect it. Agreed! On a side note, at the start of the raid today, you guys were pissing around and teamspeak was on the verge of being muted, like alot of the time. Then when Katt came back after a break you started loling at her, and being unfair and wouldn't quit it -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 12, 2011 10:52 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 | Exactly guys. Don't talk down to ANYONE, no matter who it is. --------------------  | ||
Posted: February 12, 2011 11:44 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Dallar Group: Event Leader Posts: 1899 Member No.: 1957 Joined: July 16, 2009 Total Events Attended: 137 | Thanks. Great post.. Dynamic requirements.. Don't think it'll happen. I think it'll trigger alot of disute because of some people getting the priviledge to join at a lower level than others. You would be better off with a FA system. We could revamp the mentor system in extend. Instead of just being there to answer questions we could monitor a trial members progress ingame and in-clan. We could let people in at 105, then give them a month to reach 110 (Going from 105 to 110 takes no more than a week) If they fail to train they're not fit here. I would've loved that. It both shows an interest in becoming better and dedication to WG. I know my rank says trial guardian but I have been here for 4 years in total with two accounts. Yes we do have a tendency to mock people for their differences but I must say that sometimes people ask for a verbal ass-whopping. It just our responsibility not to fall in the pit and get into a fight.. Just try and sweep em' off or talk to them in private and help them solve their matters. I also think that once you get the elite guardian rank there's not much more for you to do. The only way an elite guardian can advance is by becoming staff member. My problem with being an elite was this. I wasn't motivated by many things. I was just actually waiting for an EL application to open. Maybe we should try and encourage elite guardians to be more responsible (Hosting events, more involved in trial guardians.. (FA system?)) Just more respnsibilty overall.. I think having responsibility will trigger a better community. We need to be there for eachother and help out. Disputes started in the IRC are only started because of immaturity. If you get involved in a fight try and solve it instead of trying to take the competition. You win nothing but extra experience in being an asshole. Just stop it.. It's not that hard.. Hope it made sense. --------------------  Click me if you need cheering up - I guarantee happiness will blossom | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 01:06 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: markenzie1 Group: Emeritus Posts: 790 Member No.: 2004 Joined: August 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 180 | i so much wanted to see this post! i have seen how hard it is for new people to get in the community and i must say that its hard for me to let someone in aswell (i try to be as open as possible though). just be open to it and start a random chat with someone helps tons. about the rectuitment rise: i love that idea, raising our cmb, while being able to make exeptions sounds like a great way to improve our pvp. once again, nice post gene, mark --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 01:32 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | The combat raise is awesome, I am very happy to see it. People do need to loosen up a bit and realize when people are joking around. Things can never be like they were in the past because it was the past, we were different and more innocent back then. That does not mean we can't take the wisdom we have earned and not apply it to the future. Joking around is one thing, running stuff into the ground is another. Show some tolerance for your clan mates and treat others as you would like to be treated. Good deal on this . --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 01:42 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | interesting read. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 03:34 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: fbi3255 Group: Emeritus Posts: 800 Member No.: 1776 Joined: March 21, 2009 Total Events Attended: 143 | Very Interesting topic and ive felt like it was needed for a while. Goodjob --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 04:07 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 | K ill stop picking on BGP. Req raise is a good idea imo. Took me 6 hours to read that post. -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum!   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 05:09 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | Was an interesting read. I never think I can speak my mind here anyway cause no one cared then and less likely now. Anyway here is to a fresh start maybe. --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 05:28 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | Interesting post. I personally think the progressive requirements are giving a bit too little time for people to train (maybe make it 100-105 over a month then give 6 weeks for 110?) but it doesn't really worry me too much. Good luck to all those that needed a fresh start  --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 05:30 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 |
*definitely. --------------------  | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 05:32 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | Requirement raise has been long overdue. For those who are saying they can't reach the requirements in time, you're simply not active enough. Think about it, people were meeting 100+ requirements back in 2006 long before any of the good training gear and spots came out. Back in 2006, the best training spots were bandits, with 40-50k xp/hr. There was no healing via summoning, there was no chaotic gear; you had to bank for food, yet still we all managed to pull off 100+ f2p combat. The amount of activity required then is the same that would be required now with 110+ requirements. In regards to letting 100-110 in when the requirements are 110+, this should only be done in very very special situations. The only person I would apply it to in the past month would be DZ. He's an ex-warlord, and came in with under 110 combat, yet trained like a beast in the last few weeks, and is now 110+ f2p. Add to this his warring capabilities, and the fact that he knows how to tank, he is one that should be let in under 110. However for other cases which we have somebody applying under 110, 95% of the time it should be a decline until they meet the requirements. The combat aspect digs into the community as well. A prime example would be about getting firecapes. With all the gear and help available nowadays, a firecape is a joke to get, however some still find this as a really good achievement. People like me are struggling to find common ground with 100 combat players because of the vast difference in rs knowledge and abilities. Sure I'm not expecting everybody to max out, but a higher combat average without 100-110 would at least help in mending bridges between the community. Within the community, the one liners are really the thing that got to me. It's just draining and immature. I'm going to sit back + observe over the next couple of days to see if anything has changed. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 06:18 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | If you tried you could find common ground with 100 combat players. They are human beings with interests of their own. And Runescape is a big game. -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 07:32 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 | Combat requirement raising has been on my mind for quite some time, as has a FA system, many top clans with large ML's have had a FA system which is working brilliantly. 110 f2p is easy to get if you train for a few weeks a few hours a day, anyone who reckons 110 f2p is achieveable in one week, get lost, DZ's account is a perfect example, its pretty much online 24 hours a day and only achieves a few million xp a week, you may pull 100k an hour with you 99 str and attack but accounts that are below 110 normally have 85~ atk/str/def, this results in 50k-70k maximum an hour, even with torso/salve amulet (e), most members don't have 85 dg so they don't have chaotic, and dont troll them for not having it, again they aren't maxed so its not as easy to find a good dging team. As for the trolling, about time, either have a clan is a community of trolls (i.e RoT or a clan of zero tollerance to trolling. I'd rather the latter. What we did to Keanu was unacceptable and what is going on right now is too, even I crack the shits and abuse people when I've been troll'd. I've had grudges against people because of their trolling, now that it will stop so will the grudges. Its time WG nutted up as a whole clan. p.s Kyle and Alan, Kyle could be seen as "trolling" somewhat but Alan you've already ignored a new rule:
. Hopefully WG can prove their maturity (as we are mostly over 18 or almost) and we can advance as a clan. Get back to what makes wg so good, the relaxed community mixed with epic skill (moose lulz) and awesome people. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 08:02 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | He knows, as I've spoken to him about that. -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 08:20 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: `Woof Group: Ex-Member Posts: 488 Member No.: 2301 Joined: June 24, 2010 Total Events Attended: 52 |
Honestly, Vephy, I would love to know how you feel.. about everything. To me, you're like that mystery member.. we all know you, but we don't all -know- you. Even if you don't feel comfortable enough yet to talk with everyone else, I would like to listen to your words. I would. To you, Gene, I greatly like this idea, I think that first off: The combat requirements are great. I am already over 110+ f2p, so I'm definitely safe in that sense, (and I'm always slowly training stuff up) but as a whole, it will help us grow stronger as a force. Secondly, about the clean slate thing, I think it's great. I'm glad that I've had my warn level removed and I'm looking forward to being a positive aspect to WG. Although I talk a SHIT TON, I usually feel like I'm more of a positive aspect, which I think it important, however, I am humble and I know I am not perfect and still look to improve myself. Thanks for all your continued hard work, Gene.  It is not going un-appreciated.EDIT: I notice my warn level isn't gone.  EDIIT2: Thank you. -------------------- They call me the Master woof   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 11:58 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: DestroyerDmc Group: Guardian Posts: 498 Member No.: 2317 Joined: July 13, 2010 Total Events Attended: 31 | Really good topic, i can see how this will definitly help WG in the long run and i dont think that 20 people will leave (if anyone for that matter). I think a refreshing start is what some of the players in this clan need and i fully support this topic. As for a requirement raise this is just about the best thing ever, i know when i first joined i was alot lower than i am now but higher levels usually = more experience and what else could you want in a clan like this  --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 04:00 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Snowzak Group: Emeritus Posts: 1193 Member No.: 5 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | Aw dangit why does the req raise have to happen when I have no interest in RS anymore. Good luck guys, I'm sure everything'll work out --------------------  London RL Meeting attendee - Paris RL meeting attendee Joined WG in October 2005 - Original DG - Ex-Raid Leader Proud Council Member from October 21st 2007 to May 19th 2008 | ||
Posted: February 13, 2011 10:33 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Gotan100 Group: Guest Posts: 52 Member No.: 2509 Joined: January 4, 2011 Total Events Attended: 10 | Alright! I'll get training -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 14, 2011 01:44 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | If anyone needs a training buddy, pm me on the forum. If I can't train with you, I try to work it out for you to have someone to train with. TS can really be an awesome past time as you train. It makes the time fly by and if you goof up and die, sometimes friends can get to you to bless your grave. Vephy, I always care about your opinion. You were a great council and still hold respect with many of us. Gary, I have little in RS in common with you and I still love to come talk with you. Kyle and Alain, sometimes it is better to just agree that you do not have the same view on something that is a heated topic between you. You can always try to work out things with a few easy steps. 1. Realizing that forgiveness is a gift given freely to those who have hurt you. So when you are thinking that you have nothing to be forgiven then think if you have hurt the other person. It doesn't matter if you were right or wrong really. If you offer forgiveness and they don't take it then it is on them and not on you. 2. Forgiveness does not involve a literal forgetting. Forgiveness involves remembering graciously. The involved people remember the truth though painful parts, but without the use of angry words that stir up fights and resentments. 3. You can't just say you forgive. You have to change in yourself where forgiveness is more likely to occur. There are specific conditions that have to change so hostility and self-pity will be less. You increase positive feelings, so it becomes more likely that a genuine, heartfelt letting go of the resentment will occur. I don't know that either of you will read this, but that is the best way I can describe how to end a true disagreement where you hurt each other. I can see the hurt on both sides. I hope this little advice can help others as well. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: February 14, 2011 11:42 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Finally, Progress. Im one of the people that has been assisting in the decline of the community. My attitude towards keanu, was out of order. Im sorry. I like the req raise. But should be involved into an FA style system. Works everywhere else. Means people at 105, can still join, and be an FA. And gives them time to train, learn WG ways, and still PK. Have full member at 110 f2p and the set reqs, and FA for 4 weeks MINIMUM. --------------------    | ||
Posted: February 17, 2011 02:26 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kung_man149 Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 1054 Member No.: 2111 Joined: October 30, 2009 Total Events Attended: 79 |
Race you to 99 str? -------------------- Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔ <+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour <+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH   | ||
Posted: February 17, 2011 06:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | 82+ magic requirement too? -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
Best pker + most mature summer awards 2011 | ||
Posted: February 18, 2011 02:21 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | So is that a no to the revamped trial system then? --------------------    | ||
Posted: February 19, 2011 01:05 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Bgpgraebner Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 780 Member No.: 2457 Joined: November 17, 2010 Total Events Attended: 51 |
Just gonna keep it short. First, thank you gene for showing people your personal thoughts about me. Second, to everyone who dislikes me for anything i do, I have said this a lot of times. If i do something you disapprove, FUCKING SAY IT TO ME. I'd be less offended reading what you said on that moment - i.e "look bgp what you just did was not rly nice" - than what i read above - "members are being generally disliked (eg. Bgpgraebner). Seriously, if you have something to say - say it. On the other hand... On the requirements raise, i'm pretty much neutral. I think this would make our recruiting a lot harder, but would in fact make the raiding/warring A LOT easier. Full support to the "everyone gets a chance" thing. Keanu became a bit of a friend of mine when he left WG. He wasn't this asshole everyone said he was. All i'm saying is, don't judge people for what you see at first. -------------------- SEX. Now that I got your attention, please read my post. | ||
Tabula Rasa, + requirement raise