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Posted: July 9, 2008 03:33 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: Nirvanas Group: Ex-Member Posts: 334 Member No.: 240 Joined: February 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24    | you'v said what's had to be said, that took some fucking balls. Where leaving is concerned, take a bit of advice from someone who knows: Life isn't as sweet without WG. peace dude xxx -------------------- Safe as fuck mate, safe as fuck | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 03:56 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Robertw56 Group: Guest Posts: 1908 Member No.: 15 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 118 | Maths.....we've had some greats time mate, you've always been there to make me smile and have a laugh. I'm going to miss you dearly, and just hope you come back one day. Speak to you on Msn and stuff  ~Rob --------------------    | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 04:20 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
Quoted for the truth, Rene make sure you read that. This kills 99 agil unit.  -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 04:37 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 | Pfff, I'm not on your shout outs list. </3 And you gotta understand. Wars are at bad times for Aussies because most of our members AREN'T Aussie. And to have the best turnout, we need to get the timezone where most of our members are located. If you're still down on leaving, I'll miss ya bro. But I still think you should stay and sort things out. It's not that big of a deal. -.- --------------------   | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 05:30 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
I think we should have more short prep fights for aussies though. Like 15 v 15s or whatever if we can find them. -------------------- | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 05:35 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | Ok well. Ill stay off this topic. If your going to keep me added do so and what not. I miss the days when you were level 90cmb and you needed someone to help you on deep wild tt'd... Bye, gl finding a new home. P.S-Sorry for posting what I did, and for posting now. --------------------  | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 05:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 |
I usually enter the irc at this time which is in the early mornings for me. I really do agree with what you say there. Please do not leave. Please do keep me added <3 I hope you return some time. --------------------  Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 06:20 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Valdremia Group: Ex-Member Posts: 289 Member No.: 64 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 9 | Everyone has a fiddle, each fiddle comes with many chords. High, lows, middle - some divide their chords into different segments, one that is for the open to see and the other only a few will know and having seen it, to have experienced and spotted it, comparing behind the scenes and in front. Other times it needs a sharper master than the mind to recognise all the chords at one go once the opportunity is given, to finally see what that fiddle is really made of, and that must be a good but sharp heart. I do not think there can be a greater shock to realise what you know isn’t what you think you know but rather what you finally discovered, if you do get to experience and witness it, a truth - that is totally opposite of what you once believed or thought, and had supported so much. And that feeling is to know, you’ve been somehow skillfully led by a fiddle, to believe one side: the side that it wanted you to see, on the front, to believe it. A fiddle that is endowed with the skill of perception - one that is objectively very subjective. What an art form. Very few individuals have that skill, and it can be shocking to discover their otherwise, well placed defence, presented as a reason. Usually, not very trustworthy, unfortunately. It is not those who played all their fiddles in the open, no matter how uncouth - that needs to be wary of. I think wise honesty can really be hard to come by. Even hearts can be fooled, but it shouldn’t be allowed to be fooled, twice. However, similar fiddles will certainly play heartily to one another, except, not too sure - if its really right or wrong in the end. Because, if its wrong, then it will be all wrong, and if its right, it will be, all right. Dear Maths, I can only say when I read this, it sunk really hard. I can’t even say, stay or just leave, whichever will make you happier. For all those things you’ve raised, I would think it will take some time to heed and heal. But that is really not something I can comment on further, because those things - while are alarms raised, tackling them from individuals to whole and vice versa, is a very delicate relationship. And I mean, very delicate. I’ve always believed, when 1 step is taken backwards, it takes 2 steps to move forward. And when 2 steps are taken backwards, it will take 4 steps to move forward. And maybe, with all those back steps with far more forward steps needed, will it be enough to give it some more chances despite having failed itself this far? Will it be enough to know, it won’t go away that soon but it will take to be given a far larger chance to try again? It will not be a -1 + 1 = 1, it will be -1 +2 = just 1. There is no doubt you are a valued member here. You have come such a long way and been through the rains here. I only hope, some kind of reason could offer you to review your decision. But I know, it won’t be easy. Know that, for the fact, you’ve raised all these, that means, its a beacon and no rank can auto-give anyone that ability. And I do think, whatever position that is endowed by the clan overall, performances will perform itself in time. But, if you must go, it will be a great loss. No matter what decision you make, it will be respected. Do know, everywhere else can be different. In the end, it is to be happier and better. Oh btw, Tmal, I don’t think that’s what Maths means. Those explanations for the challenges so to call, are 2 different reasons that can hardly be a co-related reason in the end. Separate agendas. -------------------- "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." - Barack Obama  | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 06:20 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sebastian Group: Guest Posts: 192 Member No.: 1000 Joined: June 26, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | Sad to see you leave i like to very much and the IRC crap is SO TRUE  --------------------  | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 06:24 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: ``Aaron Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1055 Member No.: 149 Joined: January 21, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | Maths I can say I relate to most of that, like the IRC. Im usually the one PMing, I rarely get them it just makes me feel like no one is bonding or anything and people are like wtf stop messaging. But yes, I do see where you're coming from. the only reason I attend as little events as I do is because they just happen to go one when im online. We do need wars that are around 6pm aussie time, make the Europeans or Americans wake up early --------------------    | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 06:26 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Cody|Mustang Group: Ex-Member Posts: 321 Member No.: 73 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 44 | I know what u mean maths... Back when i was active in WG everthing was cool there was a lot of drama yeah but it was dealt with quick... Wg just doesn't have the community it use to ... I mean the IRC is a load of bullshit if you ask me... evertime im in there its just 2 or 3 ppl tlkin back and forth dont get me wrong thats cool and everthing theres just no group discussion any more even when people are fighting about who is a better tank or hybrid...thats better than setting there with no convo going... and as for teamspeak... Like as long as Wg has been a clan there as been a Ts crew and if you ask me when i was an active member...or even raid leader the TS crew is what kept WG active... When i joined the ts crew was...Samosabb, Noescape, Masteredgo, Dragonfudd, Triv,Chrisyabsly, Ryan, and myself...im sure there was a few others but thats all i can remember. Then when they all left... It was like Me Jenny, Jason, Jon, Ryan, Bobler, and Groe maybe... I log on at least once a day just to see whats up and NEVER is anyone on ts... If they are they are down in a diffrent room and have been afk for hours. And you are right everyone does break into there little groups its cool for like an event or somthing but to have an irc channel that you and your 4 friends join just to chat ab stuff or even people in Wg...Theres no point in it...and if you as me your taking away form the community of Wg. Sorry to see you go Maths.. Aussie ftw...<3 -------------------- | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 06:37 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Ehh, Have a good one Mathsnerd18. ~Indivi2you -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 06:40 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Usually something along the lines of this always follows and Election. Maths, you've pointed out many problems WG has right now, Leaving right now won't solve these problems. You don't need an Orange Name to help, You don't need it for recognition either, After what members have posted in this thread. I think everybody has known what you've done for WG. But leaving only makes the problems at hand worse. I understand your want to leave, but there's also much more you could accmplish by staying. Whichever you choose, Best of luck. --------------------   | ||
Posted: July 9, 2008 07:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | I want you to know I have supported you through a lot of times whether you knew it or not. I have always known you were a huge asset to WG. You were always ready to lend money, make donations, be there when needed. I remember Lordy and I talking once about what a huge asset you are to WG. I do need to apologize however, I have never meant to be "cliquish" and only hang with a few people. TS was my place to be, since the days of Noes, KK, Sam. I loved being there and chatting, just in the waning days people never got on. I do love WG and hopefully can still of some use around here. I certainly have always respected you for how you have played this game we all love and for the ability to stay dedicated to our home here. Please I beg you one more time, help us pull out of the ditch and make this a better place. A place where we can surely all co exist. This place will not be the same without you. Don't go, not like this. --------------------   | ||
Posted: July 10, 2008 01:58 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | one thing i think we can stay, this leaving has made alot of people wake up and see wg isnt doing good, sure, we can beat some shitty second rank teams in cwpl, but we used to fight the best, and win i want that wg back --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||
Posted: July 10, 2008 02:36 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | If all these things were building up and you were on the verge of leaving, you should not have applied for council in the first place. I have little sympathy for someone who claims to be in it for the long haul, but then gives out so easily when things do not go as expected. If you can't handle the loss of a council election without quitting, you would not have been able to handle the troubles and turmoil of the council position without giving up.
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Posted: July 10, 2008 03:48 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | This post was a real wake up call, it made many of us wake up and smell the coffee, and see the reality that WG is in. If we all work together we can get what we all want again, the friendly, amazing community that WG used to have. I want you to be here with us when it happens Maths, I really don't want to see you go. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||
Posted: July 10, 2008 07:57 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | Maths.. Its sad to see you go.. I'm really shocked too.. as shocked as you were when you saw that I was gonna leave Wg. I decided to go emeritus. But I do understand alot of what your saying. Those were a few reasons I almost left too.. but I just couldn't go. As for the Aussie timezone, These were also reasons why I loved staying up late at night hanging out with you guys in Irc. Waking up 4 am just to have an event with your guys.. Had my alarm set and everything. I do believe that the Irc is quite tamed at that time. I had lots of fun with you and your a great person. I hope things do go well for you. So much has changed and I dont think it will ever go back to the same.. But as time goes on.. I hope it will get better. We are a family and I just want everyone to be happy in it. Your amazing in your own way and I have always respected you as a friend and member. You will always be on my friends list. You've always been kind to me and I'll never forget that. Wg wont be the same without you and I will miss you. Here is a pic of us at an event. i still have it <333 you maths.. -------------------- | ||
Posted: July 11, 2008 11:14 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | Requested Emeritus. ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||
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