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Posted: August 17, 2008 02:41 am  | |||||||
     IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6    | Ahh, how very typical. "I won't indulge you with a response" means: Dammit, he's figured me out and now I can't get away with it. Nice response Karl. I half expected more from you, but alas, I'll take it. What are your reasons for keeping the name? Let's turn the tables on your argument Karl. Is it just so you don't have to do any of the work to come up with a new name and thus new website and forums, or do you not want the historical break from WG? I don't understand. You badmouth all us old schoolers, yet you want to continue the lineage of the clan? If you hate us all so much, why not venture out on your own and leave the WG name at the door? There are quite a few of us, and moreso than in the clan now, who will always be associated with WG...the WG of days past. Of course, for me, I don't want my name associated with anything from this "new and improved" WG because it's not what I stand for, nor is it something that I ever DID stand for. LOL Atta boy Flame.  -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:51 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | There is also the case of the old schoolers flaming the current members/new members of WG, which is why some of the members are reacting in this way towards the old schoolers. -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:55 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | Rick, I must say, this place is just not as much fun without you. Who else would turn my own argument on my head? If I did want to break off a link with the old school then you would be completely right, however as I said before it is just not as much fun without you here. --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:56 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Reece, this has been going on for some time now and granted, alot of the old schoolers are to blame, but we're not taking the full blame. The new schoolers are just as much at fault here. There were times where a simple post went haywire because a WG member couldn't be bothered to post something constructive. It's always: "what are you doing here" "don't bother us" "go cut yourself". I've read about all I need to read about WG dying and shit too but I'm going to post how I feel every single time because the new schoolers deem it necessary to badmouth people just because they know there will be no recourse. Karl, you went all nice on me? That's such dirty pool. Well, I'm glad that we can agree to disagree and still have a laugh or two...unless...hmm, did I sense some...it almost sounded condescending. Of course it's no fun without me, who else is going to call a spade a spade and not even worry about the consequences? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:00 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
I'll answer that for him, Rick.
Hope that list suffices. ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:06 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Okay, let me break these down as simple as I can. Get your own identity, the one we created for you, you're damaging. Members have also LEFT WG because of what it's become. It's not an insult to give someone back what was rightfully theirs to being with. WG will always have history, nothing can change that. Umm, we've redone the ranks, redone the forums and redone the clan more times than once since WG started and it's not that hard to do, IF you want to do the work. You're wrong, it was once what we stood for as a clan. You're using the name but you're not using it in the sense that it was created. Whatever the reason, it's still someone's opinion and there isn't anything anyone can do to change that. We just have to deal with it. I hope that answered a few of your points. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:13 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | Lol, and just like that Mugger now knows why I did not give Rick a serious response. Well, it was sort of serious, I actually do like having you here Rick, but just not as a leader. You and power get along too well. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:14 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 | 'Get your own identity' What? :S As far as I'm aware, this is The Wilderness Guardians Clan, is it not? This is the same clan as was created many years ago back in RSC, is it not? The clan's identity isn't stolen whatsoever... The First leaders, many years ago would have handed down the reigns to another person, a then leader. That leader, when he/she left would have handed down the leadership to someone else, and the process would have continued up to today. This IS The Wilderness Guardians, for better or for worse. It may be worse than 'your generation'. Well GOOD FOR YOU...? LUCKY YOU in fact... Imo I wish I could have been in WG as long as you have and since you were, it must have been a blast. We're just working with what we're given. Why do you really think you have the right to say that WG is yours and that we've stolen the Idenity, because effectively, that is EXACTLY what you are saying. WG isn't as good as it was when you were around, therefore we're tarnishing its 'name'. EDIT: What I don't think you understand here is RuneScape has become a lot more harsh place for clans. The pressure and scrutiny clans can be put under now is incomparisable to 2 years ago. It's not something a council from that time could simply walk back into and find a breeze. In my opinion, the only leader who was around 'back then' and who fully understands the clan world now, is Eugene. Fortunately enough he is returning to give a helpful push in the right direction. As far as I can see, all of these posts simply hinder his attempts, as they demoralise the current staff. By the time Eugene re-takes office, he will not only have a clan to fix, but a demoralised staff to fix too. ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:18 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | There, now you're getting it Mugger. Atta boy. Oh and I wouldn't worry about Gene and the demoralized staff. The staff here aren't doing anything anyway. lol -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:22 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
There we go again, another shitty low blow from an OUTSIDER'S perspective. If you could see all of the forums, you'd think completely differently, but instead as per usual you talk with your cock out. I dont know you, my impression of you is based on no more than 20 posts i've seen on these forums. Allow me to let you know that from these few posts, you come off as a true ass hole. I take back what I say about wishing i was there to experience WG at your time, because I'd have to work with you. ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:29 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Don't worry Mugger, it's MY pleasure to not work with an arrogant prick like you and the rest of your moronic 20 Raid Leaders. You wanna throw shit, I can throw it with the best of them. Bring your A game son cuz you'll need it. I'd rather not do this on a public forum, but if you want to, I'd be more than happy to oblige. Remember one thing though, it was you who called the first name...as is usual with most of you new school people. Every single time I see Abs in IRC, I see Abs/Arm or Abs/Busy...I've been told this by your current members Mugger that he don't do much and he's even admitted it. What exactly are Dale and Rob doing? That I don't know. Rob is too new to know exactly what he's supposed to be doing. I don't know enough about Dale to form an opinion of him. He seems pretty cool though. Then there are the assholes in green. The Raid Leaders. Correct me if I'm wrong but what exactly are raids nowadays with there being no wilderness and how does one gain that rank in such a short amount of time in the clan? Just wondering. Oh and if my cock's out like you say, please feel free to get on your knees and SUCK IT!!!! -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:34 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | Goddamn rick have all your christmases come at once? lol --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:35 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
So congratulations, you've named one Staff Member who you believe to be doing nothing. OBVIOUSLY this indicates that the whole of WG Staff MUST be doing nothing. 'Then there are the assholes in green. The Raid Leaders. Correct me if I'm wrong but what exactly are raids nowadays with there being no wilderness' Raid Leaders lead any aspect of fighting in the wilderness. That includes CWA and BH. CWA (incase you haven't read up on it) is where Wars happen. Obviously as there's no real PKing anymore, wars are the next best thing, and so the Raid Leaders lead these wars and help to train up members to be good at them. War Trainings are hosted a minimum of two times per week by various raid leaders in order to help the newer members grasp the concept of CWA. As an addition, Trial Guardians need to have been present at Two War Trainings to Graduate. Any other ranks you wish for me to define for you, Rick?  'how does one gain that rank in such a short amount of time in the clan?' Members can apply for Raid Leader via an application process. This process is made up of many different questions, a lot like an application for the clan. The decision on who is made the raid leader is either taken by having a 'Trial Raid Leader' period or by prooving yourself by leading other CWA activities in previous occasions. If you need any more help with the Raid Leader Application process, feel free to ask ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:37 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Everyone needs to take a chillpill. Quite frankly, I could care less what we're named. Wilderness Guardians, Tea Guardians, Guardian Guardians, who cares. It's the people and community that matters. The "old" WG doesn't exist, obviously, since it's a new generation. Changing the name over something that stupid isn't worth the time and effort. Oh, runescape. --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:37 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | It's what I do Evil and I guess I still got it. /me shrugs Okay Mugger, if it's wars you deal with, why not change the name to War Leaders or don't any of you know how to do it. If you'd like to know more on how to change ranks within a clan, let me know. Exactly how long does one have to be in the clan in order to put in an application for said ranks? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:44 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | Guys ..ffs --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:45 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
I neither have the rank to make this change, nor the Ego to do so. My position in the clan is to teach, and serve the members, not make decisions on how the leadership runs the clan. That is down to the Council and the Primary Leader.
I personally know enough about ACPs on both Invision and RuneHead to change a rank. Cheers
Off the top of my head, I think it's two or three months. To apply for Council is Four months. Any more questions? ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:45 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 |
It is not always about "guarding the wilderness." I'm sorry that you feel you don't belong with who is in WG now days, and I'm sorry that you feel that who is here is not fit to have the name "The Wilderness Guardians." But that is a part why you left. If you are so adamant about what you feel, then start up something new, with all the old school WG and try to recreate everything. And what I feel, is that you want us to throw away the name, throw away something that has become part of us. Would you throw away your name? No longer be "Bassism"? I have used the name "Winddancir" for quite some time... It will always be a part of me. It is a name, like any other. Would you deny that you were once WG, just because of what WG is now? Asking to change the name of the clan... You want us to no longer be WG. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:52 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Yeah, I have tons of more questions: 1. Can a clown be charged with murder if he makes you die laughing? 2. If you're driving at the speed of sound and turn on the radio, can you hear it? 3. If you're up in a tree with a gay guy, would you go down? 4. If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil come from? 5. When you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? There, I have plenty more questions to keep you busy if you really want me to list them. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:53 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
Hypocritte? -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:55 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Meaning? You will NEVER catch me at a loss for words. You're just not fucking smart enough, nor good enough to do it. You keep trying though sunshine. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:57 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
 More "I won't indulge you with a response" from Rick Shall we find out what that means? :
Ah there we go, now i remember -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 03:58 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | LOL I"m responding, you're just too stupid to realize it. You might want to quit. You're not helping yourself at all. You're really looking like a dickhead and that was my goal. To show people just how you are. I win, you lose. Now please, go fuck yourself. I got better things to do. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 04:01 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
On the contrary, you're flame baiting for a new topic. You've ran out of input on the current one, and so are resorting to try and get me to lose my temper once again to provide more of some form of weakness for you to attempt to expose. You're the kind of person who relishes off people's anger in posts. How would i go about knowing this? I used to do the exact same over RSC and other forums in diplomatic occasions in my previous clan. Let's find out what that means again
-------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 04:46 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: karel Group: Emeritus Posts: 1021 Member No.: 57 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 89 | I think we've seen enough contribution from people who aren't even in the clan anymore. The Wilderness Guardians is a great name and nothing will change that -------------------- Sig? | ||||||
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