It is true, I do value the comments, questions, and input from former members, even if it is highly critical of WG, however it is a two way street. Former members should be allowed to share their opinions and input, and current members likewise should be allowed to post their opinions and criticisms of input, regardless of the apparent friendliness.

I will admit that some of the responses from WG members (yes, including myself) have been extremely negative, or responding on a personal level instead of the topic at hand. To that extent you are right Rick, however the problem I see with your argument is that you also seem to be offended when someone is simply highly critical of the input of former members. If a former member posts input or a criticism that seems hostile to the clan, the members have every right to attack it.

What you are asking us to do in principle is to allow former members to post input they want, but for current members to tie their own hands when responding.

I think much of this topic has to do with respect, which is also a two way street. As far as I am concerned, that is the bottom line here. Personally, I try to draw a line by criticizing the argument a person is making, but not the person making the argument. However, if you level personal criticisms at others, then I will of course take issue with your lack of respect and try to give you hell for it.

Rick, for my part I am very willing to show some respect, however at the same time if I see you attacking members instead of attacking their arguments, then I am not simply going to sit back and watch.

 
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Mass Debate?

On topic, I don't think completely ignoring advice from ex-members is the answer, although obviously I'm quite biased. After all, the only ex-members that can view this forum were once Staff members at some point in their history, therefore I think it can be assumed they will usually know what they are talking about. While yes I agree that WG needs to go in the direction it's members want, a little outside advice always helps, especially if this advice is coming from someone with experience.

If you're lost while driving you don't ask someone in the car do you? You ask someone in the street, who knows the area.
 
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Mass Debate?

On topic, I don't think completely ignoring advice from ex-members is the answer, although obviously I'm quite biased. After all, the only ex-members that can view this forum were once Staff members at some point in their history, therefore I think it can be assumed they will usually know what they are talking about. While yes I agree that WG needs to go in the direction it's members want, a little outside advice always helps, especially if this advice is coming from someone with experience.

If you're lost while driving you don't ask someone in the car do you? You ask someone in the street, who knows the area.

Gah, I actually agree with what Bassism said (good analogy too ), so now there is nothing to argue about. See, look what you did Mugger, now this topic is way boring.

Ill continue with the analogy though...just because a local recommends that I eat at the Old Country Buffet, that does not mean I should eat there. The locals are from a different place and grew up eating different food than I did, so if I follow their advice I might get where they want to eat, but now where i want to eat. Instead of following their advice, I am going to New China Buffet to gorge myself.



Wow, who knew that analogy could be so elaborate...and now I am hungry.
 
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Well, yes, if I would have listened to the locals (in this hypothetical analogy) I would not be sick from food poisoning. Turns out sometimes the locals know what they are talking about.
 
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Dude evil, just get over yourself...who doesn't like bagels?!

If you want to make a real statement at least tell us what you like on your bagels. As far as I am concerned real butter (not that crappy spread stuff) with apricot jam owns everything else.


Off topic: Rick, what is Ponderosa? I do not believe I have ever been there.
 
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Cream cheese looks, and probably tastes, like curdled semen.....
 
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Cream cheese looks, and probably tastes, like curdled semen.....

Fishies...steamed and spiced. Oh wait...and melted toasts on ocassions, yummy.
 
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"I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." - Barack Obama

Cream cheese looks, and probably tastes, like curdled semen.....

Wow I just may never eat cream cheese again in my life.
 
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Cream cheese looks, and probably tastes, like curdled semen.....

Wow I just may never eat cream cheese again in my life.

Win
 
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Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus
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