People don't need an excuse. Wars aren't Mandatory. A simple, "I don't want to go." is good enough. If you don't think so, then you're thinking wrongly.
 
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Sorry, I guess I forgot to mention the no flaming part in the first post. Really dude, it doesn't help the flow of ideas here...but, I accept your opinion.


However, the skillers do not chew out the war people. We just attend the events because we want fun, not because we're pressured into them.

Let me elaborate for just a second here Joe.

First of all, you're still ugly.

Second, it's the war people who chastise, ridicule and pester the skillers, it's hardly the other way around. We actually, could care less what you guys do but let us do something that you don't agree with and we hear all about it. Not real fair in my opinion.

There are plenty of other "warlike" things that get scheduled at the last moment. Take for example, PKRIs. It seems as if anyone who comes into our IRC lobby and asks for a PKRI or a capped mini, it don't matter what anyone else is doing, the leaders are always gung ho to accept them, then wonder why they can't pull ops.
 
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People don't need an excuse. Wars aren't Mandatory. A simple, "I don't want to go." is good enough. If you don't think so, then you're thinking wrongly.

Of course you don't need an excuse, but the question here is:
Is your priority the clan's reputation, or your character skilling?

I'm not saying Skilling is a bad thing, I'm just saying that joining a clan means you represent the clan's strength (In everything, not just warring), when a side becomes weak, of course people will complain, as it affects the overall reputation of the clan, which is the main problem here.
WG isn't having problems with skilling, we won every single skilling war we ever had (According to some old folks, Not sure 'bout this since I wasn't here at the time), but we are having problems with warring, a lot of them.
Most of our wars/pkri's are scheduled days in advance, only few are very short prep (Unusual for clans lately TBH)

Rick, most of the wars/pkri's in IRC get declined to be honest.

Rick, I've been posting lately on lots of the Warring and Skilling related threads and events, have you ever seen me flame anyone on these? Some may flame but they're really just angered because it annoys them (I know how annoying it can feel), the majority don't flame though.

^^^^^ Fully agreed.
 
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I can agree with this. I dislike wars and still go. I dislike agility too. I still run and train it some. Just because I rather "Make Love not War" Doesn't mean that I can't come and fight by the side of my clan mates. Even though I am within the first three to die, or have to return 5 times, I still come. Sometimes I wonder if they want me there cause I stinkee at war. But if I'm still around the clan in another year who knows I might learn to like it and not be so stinkee. So thanks for putting up with me.

Some of the people that hate skills probably can relate when they were in the skills war. They helped to make the skills war a greater success.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

Personally, I come to every War I possibly can. Unless it's p2p, because I don't see the point of going for 2 minutes and then leaving. (Admit it, we're awful at p2p.) And sure Brandon, maybe "I don't want to go" isn't a valid excuse, but NOTHING is valid for you guys. Unless we're dying, or leaving the computer for a real life reason(which sometimes still isn't even valid) then it's not valid.

So essentially, we say Wars aren't mandatory, but we're pushed until we go to them. And if they refuse to go, then they aren't reprimanded like they would be had Wars been mandatory(a warn level), but they surely get yelled at or just shunned.

You see what I mean? We preach Wars aren't mandatory, but if you don't go, then you essentially suck and everybody hates you. So what's going on there?
 
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I'm really not surprised to be honest. It's been almost a year since the clan had any serious warring events. We've gone to CWA a few times since the Ruinedscape update last December, but it hasn't at all been a serious commitment. People have lost interest. Also, as a community we're getting older. In high school I had time to attend tons of events that I simply can't do in college, mostly because of work. For most people, it's just not a priority anymore.
 
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