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Posted: October 24, 2008 05:55 am  | |||||
     IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26    | Elias - His Lordship Yawn not trying to be imature but reading these posts about saying no to attending this event because we know when BoS is pking and were going after them is hilarious. Were sinking low because were pking them blah blah blah Rofls pvp worlds - kill anyone you want pvp worlds for clans - kill anything that brings a competition Hunting another clan is not Nh. Its called a track. A track makes you not run blindly into the wilderness finding nothing to getting mopped up by a bigger clan. Nh being ruining others fun. Do you think BoS won't have fun??? Were actually giving them something to do on their pk then what we would do which would be mindless walking. Theres no sense of Nh and theres no reason to back out and not attend because its BoS and were going to try and collide with them. So what the alliance is gone that means we cant hunt them. That doesnt mean we have to protect them. We are so called '' anti pkers ''. They are a pking clan so to be honest we can hunt them if we want .... Elias has made a great clan and is leading it wonderfully. But if we can't so called '' protect '' the wilderness from pking clans we might as well just stick to fally and waste runes and have little excitement as a warring/protection clan. EDIT : lol forgot if im home ill be there. going to lunch wit fam an stuff -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian  Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0   | ||||
Posted: October 24, 2008 09:42 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | and this is the reason I'm going to nolife this week. Well, one of them  --------------------  | ||||
Posted: October 24, 2008 11:15 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 |
His Lordship changed his name. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: October 24, 2008 12:28 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | 100% and lol @ Simon --------------------   | ||||
Posted: October 24, 2008 04:04 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
No Zlat, i lol at this clan, it's screwing its own image. Flame me or flame bait me all you want, i just hope you all realise what a big mistake this is. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer   | ||||
Posted: October 24, 2008 07:15 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 | I HATE MY RELATIVES. Family suddenly visiting on Saturday. WTFH WHY?!?!?!?  I'm really pissed off now. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 24, 2008 11:23 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Buzzard1985 Group: Emeritus Posts: 817 Member No.: 723 Joined: May 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 52 |
Your kinda blowing this out of proportion, if you were here before JaGeX nerfed the wildy you will remember that we would actually find tracks on clans and hunt them in the wildy, we'd have people spy and see their opts and their levels. Honestly if we know their going out, whether or not we've got a bad past with them or not, go for it. It's fun instead of walking around in circles for 2 hours. Edit: Not spy on their forums for people who thought that, I mean have a level 3 wait at the Greater Demons and watch for teams and find their opts, in other words spying on them while they pk. 0% (*points at Emeritus rank*) --------------------  - [99 / 99 Woodcutting] - [85 / 99 Fletching] - [82 / 99 Fishing] - - [14 / 24 Skills 70+] - | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 10:04 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | I do not think there is anything wrong with tracking clans, that is not the issue here. What is NH is that we are using information acquired from them, and that information was acquired one way or another through a breach of trust. Either through spying or some kind of leak. We then in turn are capitalizing off that breach of trust, which is NH. If an honorable clan somehow discovers the raid times of another clan by dishonorable means, a truly honorable clan will not take advantage of the situation. On the contrary, instead of being pixel huggers we should do the right thing and trace the source of the information so that we can warn BoS about the leak. Should we happen to be out PKing and find another clan is out aswell, then I see no problem with tracking, so long as it is not done through dishonorable means (i.e. planting a spy in their chat). I would also like to point out that it is NH to repeatedly target a certain clan, especially a weaker one, as that amounts to no more than bullying and a malicious intent to disrupt the basic functioning of that clan. Even if this event goes through, I hope it does not become a habit. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 10:49 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
Wtf. This is perfectly normal clan tactics. If idiots let their raid times slip, thats their fault. Wtf is wrong with you dude? --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 02:53 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | All that clans that have this kinda knowledge do it. Its just a tactic. If we have the location of a clan of pkers in the wilderness we can beat, how can we call ourselves the wilderness guardians if we arent willing to fight them? This isnt just based solely on the fact tha we dont like them. If we knew the location of another clan, we would go after them too. -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 03:14 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | I won't be home from work until after 8PM EST, but good luck!  --------------------  | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 03:53 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 |
haha you just cant stop make me laughing  -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 06:52 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dalejamesw Group: Banned Posts: -1280 Member No.: 14 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 222 | We can either do this or P2P with 3v0 and DB on allied raid in PvP. I'd rather P2P, but its 30 mins earlier so just post what you'd rather do? -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 07:00 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 |
That is a euphemism if I have seen one before. If you are NH, then spying on clans to get their raid times is just a tactic, but otherwise it is not. Certainly if a clan spied on us and used the information to crash our raid, we would rightly call them NH. I am not saying we are being hypocritical, but rather that we are just plain wrong in this situation. BTO, you are twisting the honor code of this clan in order to justify pixel hugging. The argument that our goal is to kill pkers by any dishonorable means necessary is completely flawed. Anti-rpking is about more than just killing any pkers, it is about being an honorable fighter and fighting those who prey on the weak. That code of ethics extends to pkers aswell, which is why we do not 1-item, BS, spy, or crash. All these dishonorable activities could be used to kill and frustrate more pkers, however that is a gross perversion of anti-rpking. Anti-rpking is not an end, but a means. What I mean to that is that that having a goal (ends) to disrupt pking by killing many pkers is foolish and unrealistic. Anti-rpking is a code of conduct, a means in which to pk with honor, respect, and dignity. There is nothing wrong with taking out a smaller clan or pkers, however to specifically target a weaker clan through dishonorable means (spying or abusing an information leak) is antithetical to anti-rpking. Zlat, Ying is not the only one who thinks this is a mistake, so it would be wise of you to stop laughing. EDIT: Just to clarify, when I say spying is dishonorable, I am refering to planting a member or proxy on their forums/chat/TS. Scouting in RS is not dishonorable. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 07:43 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 |
Who said anything about us obtaining this info through having a spy in their forums/irc/ts? Oh and if someone comes to you and tells you a clan is pking which you know that can be easily PK'd, should we just leave them? Not really. Would be stupid --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 08:01 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Type Group: Guest Posts: 223 Member No.: 686 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 16 | ^His_Lordships new irl name. Where have you been? I'll be there sir. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 08:03 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Dalejamesw Group: Banned Posts: -1280 Member No.: 14 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 222 |
No1 has been planted, No1 has been asked for the times. Someone from another clan told me. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 25, 2008 08:14 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 |
So we have a proxy, that is not much of a difference. It is still dishonorable even if someone else does the dirty work. Raging, I agree, if we are told a clan is out pking we should persue them, however this is different because we are using information acquired from their forums to specifically crash their raid. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 26, 2008 04:08 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Plano|Adam Group: Emeritus Posts: 1449 Member No.: 228 Joined: February 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 107 | truly sorry i cant make it guys. RS is blocked on this faggot computer.... --------------------  "If at first you don’t succeed, call it version 1.0" | ||||
Posted: October 26, 2008 01:07 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | Simon...what the hell are you on about? There is nothing dishonorable in wanting to fight someone. We know where they will be, when they will be there, and what they want. We want the same thing. A fight. You're going to have to show me how tracking another clan while they're searching for a fight is NH. --------------------  | ||||
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