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 Are we too nice?, The next step
Posted: February 5, 2009 02:25 amTop
   
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Was obviously pretty spontaneous if there's no topic for it.

I want to see the return of weekly or bi-weekly weekend raids, both f2p and p2p.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 02:28 amTop
   
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was a tbe led allied raid but we spammed "join #alled for p2p raid with tbe" for about 3 hours/
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 02:35 amTop
   
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I have school to go to, homework to do, and friends to hang out with. I need to know these things days in advance.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 03:08 amTop
   
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Yesterday, I was napping because I was sick.
Today, I came and lost my set of rune, WHILE LAGGING hash.png

So yeah. Gtfo using the excuse that you were lagging. I was using lowest detail while lagging quite bad. Just try to do what you can. If you can be cut, then volunteer, but always come to a war when given a chance.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 03:11 amTop
   
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I think the case is, step it up or get out.

It's about time action was taken, people skipping wars and making shitty excuses is what drove me out of the warlord position, and to actually violate my 2 weeks notice, that's how bad it was.

I agree with Randy, 50 active members is better than 50 active and 50 not interested in wars, it's time to give WG a kick in the arse, we can do what we want when we want if you guys put the effort in.

And to the people that do skip wars, FUCK OFF!
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 03:18 amTop
   
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Sorry, but I have class all day on most weekdays.

But I do believe we should start being more strict with this kind of thing. People should WANT to come to these events, so why aren't they? There's the ultimate question.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 04:31 amTop
   
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Very good post.

I do think that leadership is a bit too easy on people for skipping wars, like come on wars are pretty much the only thing you are asked to attend and to skip is pretty low. I have always hated the fact that our memberlist doesn't reflect our strength, we have way too many people who seem to miss wars way too often and to me are just making our strength look bigger than it really is.

I would love to have a smaller group of active members than a large group with some inactive however I'm not sure if WG is the type of clan that would do that.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 05:18 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Indivi2you @ February 05, 2009 12:55 pm)
I missed today's war for a good reason

i had a double double in today's basketball game smile.gif

12 points, 11 rebounds

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i average double doubles (H)

but last night i scored 26 points, >20 boards, at least 6 blocks, and maybe 10 assists, idk, we dont count

good post randy, but like maths said, a better prep would be sweet especially mid week, at least a day. But mid week ones are hard for aussies, especially ones in skool.

And ya, lets get some PKRI's going
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 05:24 amTop
   
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Sounds fair. Like to claim that i didn't know about the war and was in school
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 06:52 amTop
   
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Posted: February 5, 2009 06:54 amTop
   


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Great post Randy well done.




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Posted: February 5, 2009 02:15 pmTop
   
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It's always a hard thing to kick/warn people for skipping. And yes, I think it should be done.

The hardest part of doing all this, is the force to act objective...

Good post Randy smile.gif
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 02:59 pmTop
   
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+1

But we do still need to do skilling events, they relieve you from the stress's of warring.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 03:17 pmTop
   
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I don't think it's that the Council is to nice, I think it's that our rules are very very vague.

We have a rule that says events aren't mandatory, but complain about inactivity. Well, technically speaking, we did that to ourselves.

In most cases this clan pulls through when it's needed. Our last two RAW wars we've had 60+ pulls, that's pretty good. But when it comes to smaller events, like raids, ToG, and sometimes even PKRIs we slack off because in the rules we technically don't have to go.

Now I can understand where the Council is coming from. But I think the first step should be a slight re-work of the rules. Make them clear. Even keep the "We won't force you..." part but clarify that certain events DO hold weight and WILL affect whether or not you're considered active in the clan.

Like Jesseh said, we can't ignore the Skilling events. If we're to put this much importance on combat events we need to give a boost to the importance of the skilling events. It's not enough to just go to the wars, that isn't being active. That's attending key events. We can't have the double standard of making combat events determinants of activity, the skilling events need to hold some weight as well.

I just get the feeling that right now, we're trying so hard to prove ourselves to the rest of the clan world, that we're forgetting an entire part of the clan. We can't do that. We can, and should prove ourselves, but not at the expense of something that makes this clan unique.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 04:04 pmTop
   
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I agree with this, however on the day of the FT war, I came home at 8pm, war was at 11? so I couldnt make it because I had to go early. Sorry guys sad.gif
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 05:18 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Billis2525 @ February 05, 2009 02:09 am)
Really i've got only one view on this
I attend a war maybe a week ago, it was nice i got a single kill and my loot was lucky
(Corupted d legs)but i died with almost 500k it takes me awhile making that much im not a kinda of person to make a bunch of money running snape grass its just not fun.
I train as i can and pick up 100-150k an hour if im lucky for me its all about the experience im gaining.

The other problem is half mine im sure but i cant Auto join #wg on swift kit so i dont even know if theres anything going on.

Billy

Pm me anytime you're free and i'll be glad to help you out to make money for an extra set.
This goes for any1 whose low on cash atm.


And i've noticed some people arn't familiar with Wilderness tanking.
Maybe our next tank practice in full iron/steel at lvl 45 wildy?


 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 05:21 pmTop
   
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Get your rune, drop your excuses, and lets kick some ass

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+1 totally agree, well done Randy wub.gif
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 05:54 pmTop
   


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+1

I just have a few questions for you to think about: (They are rhetorical.)

Has the clan definitely decided it is pure fighting clan?
And if so, how do the skillers fit into it?

Do you really think that the turn out for wars will get better with fewer members?

Do members have changing moods that could affect their participation in wars?

Does irl have an impact on members and what they need and want from "playing" the "game"?

Will fewer warriors/members enhance the comradeship and enjoyment of the wars?

As always, huggles to all!

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Posted: February 5, 2009 06:38 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Billis2525 @ February 05, 2009 02:09 am)
Really i've got only one view on this
I attend a war maybe a week ago, it was nice i got a single kill and my loot was lucky
(Corupted d legs)but i died with almost 500k it takes me awhile making that much im not a kinda of person to make a bunch of money running snape grass its just not fun.
I train as i can and pick up 100-150k an hour if im lucky for me its all about the experience im gaining.

The other problem is half mine im sure but i cant Auto join #wg on swift kit so i dont even know if theres anything going on.

Billy

If you got any problems mate pm me, i am your mentor thats the kind of thing im there to help you with.

Also if you need help making a few hundred k here and there let me no, ill gladly help you out and what i can where i can.


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About time some people get a kick up the back-side.


I've NEVER missed any war i have been online with no matter how rich or poor i am, i attend 99% of raids, and dont complain about dieing, cause i always do.


And personally i find PvP wars a lot more fun, theres more at risk, yet theres more to gain also.


Seeing as most of my clan life was before CWA was even created every war i was at was in gdz, or trees. I personally feel i am a far better tank in either of those places than i am at CWA. Which people may have noticed.


Another thing i notice, also before i quit, you would be classed as NH if you ran to single as soon as you got piled. The aim was to tank for as long as you can wherever you can, keeping the opposing clan off the rest of your clan, running to single just gets them off you, and is in a way a selfish act. Of course unless directed by whoever is leading to run to single, i personally think you should tank. Thats what i do when i get attacked in PKRI's, and believe it not the amount of times opposing clans have given me credit or respect for not running to single and tanking instead, exceeds 2 hands lol.


People gotta stop being lazy and should ALREADY have a few rune sets in their bank ready for any trip that could be instantly set up.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 06:42 pmTop
   


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Although at first I decided I would go to that war, I decided to go to sleep instead.

For the last short prep war I stayed up till 3 am and I got cut over 4 other people who were lower leveld than me. Then 2 of those 4 people get koed and one of our binders finds out he is still on ancient (purely coincidentially as soon as the war starts, but not when they're cutting)

I'm sorry but I really am not going to stay up for that bs. Above all I will decide for myself which non-mandatory events I attend and I don't attend. I am willing to make time for any sort of long prep war/ pkri but if I was really forced to attend every event wg made in the skilling events and all our short prep wars/raids or allied raids then I really wouldn't have any time to play runescape for myself anymore.

Also making these short prep wars/fights mandatory would be very unfair to our skilling part of the clan. Because if you were to make these events mandatory then surely you should make atleast the weekly skilling events mandatory aswell.

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Am I making small prep wars mandatory? No. Am I increasing the punishment of deliberately skipping was? Yes.

Some excuse are legitimate, such as I'm leaving in five minutes or my internet is extremely laggy. These are only valid once or twice, but the same excuses from the same people will not be tolerated and punished accordingly. The excuses that are EXTREMELY not valid is you can't afford rune, you don't have supplies, or you don't feel like it/doing something else. Those will result in an auto-warn and possible kick.


Aren't you contradicting yourself here? First you claim that you will not be making these short prep wars mandatory but then you say you will give warn levels to people who say that they simply want to do something else on runescape.

The definition of mandatory if I recall correctly is that you have to do it if you've online.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 07:17 pmTop
   


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i noticed the huge drop in the number of people when someone mentioned going to pvp after we had beat re with 60 people. there was no where near 60 actually pking. so i know what you mean.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 07:36 pmTop
   
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nty i lik mai r00n 2 mech kthnx bai


jk hash.png, but yeah I am both poor and lvl 104 yet I still go to every pvp war/pkri that I can, so no excuses plx hash.png.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 08:25 pmTop
   
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Serriously, i spent 3+ hours daily in willderness (mining runite, but who cares? its still wilderness i think :XD )
I cannot afford to attend an event at 0:30 am in the morning sad.gif

we should have some fun events in wilderness to allure guardians there and show them that willderness is not just about dieing and losing run sets

Some steel war with rune scimmies (no protect item pray = 25k+ dropeed -> chnce for a good loot) could really work.

+ I cannot wait to see us raiding trough wilderness agin.

PS: I agree with Starzhine, why warn levels and force memebers to attend a war? Yes, some wars (every war, in generl ) are very important for the clan, but when someone is join its always told him tht WG isnt a powerhouse and we are not just warring clan, and there is a lot of space for skillers.
Why achievements alweays change everything wacko.gif or is that just cause od JAgex ? ohmy.gif

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Posted: February 5, 2009 08:56 pmTop
   


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Rene, mandatory means if you HAVE to come... even if you lose all of your limbs irl. If you're online you're expected to come, but if you literally can't come then it's not a problem.

Starz, things like wars put our reputation on the line. Will the clan world care if we go skilling? No, but they will care if we win a huge war. I agree that skilling is still important, but it should never be mandatory, simply because not everyone enjoys it. On your other point, I don't mean cutting down on members just to have less, but to have a group of active people that participate rather than a huge inactive memberlist.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 09:19 pmTop
   
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Great post.

+1
 
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