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Take it to PM?, Alrighty then.

Troll84

Posted: February 6, 2009 11:38 pm

IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls
Group: Banned
Posts: 2956
Member No.: 422
Joined: April 4, 2008
Total Events Attended: 130

QUOTE (rachellove9 @ February 06, 2009 11:37 pm)

George you of all people should know that sheep is not really all that bad to be called. You follow the great Shepard. I have to agree with Ryan. He is right on about what he is saying. Rick has been the target for some time.

A half-truth is a whole lie. Was his action all that offensive? It is more wise to love the people who are willing to tell you in private what they see as your faults. Instead it is being used against him.

(20:09:52) <Rick_Hamm> lmfao....George, I'll only say this once. Get bent and get lost. You don't know dick. You're a sheep...a follower, and that's all you'll ever be.

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Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008.
WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008.
WG Council Since 20th November 2008.
Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009.
DF IG Since 6th March 2009.
DF FA Since 15th March 2009.
Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009.
Member of DF Since 6th April 2009.
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Troll84

Posted: February 6, 2009 11:41 pm

IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls
Group: Banned
Posts: 2956
Member No.: 422
Joined: April 4, 2008
Total Events Attended: 130

This has strayed far off topic - I'm not saying I haven't contributed to that.

The topic needs to move back on topic, or it will be locked.

Rick Hamm banning issues can be posted on the topic in the Goodbye's forum.

~Mugger84

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Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008.
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WG Council Since 20th November 2008.
Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009.
DF IG Since 6th March 2009.
DF FA Since 15th March 2009.
Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009.
Member of DF Since 6th April 2009.
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Ranma344

Posted: February 6, 2009 11:49 pm

IRC Nickname: Ranma344
Group: Emeritus
Posts: 759
Member No.: 78
Joined: January 1, 2008
Total Events Attended: 24

I know all too well people tell people to fuck off in the IRC every day without punishment.. get bent is not near as bad.

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Dorcha3377

Posted: February 6, 2009 11:51 pm

IRC Nickname: Jenny
Group: Emeritus
Posts: 1967
Member No.: 19
Joined: December 29, 2007
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One thing I do want to point out..Rick did not post that in IA. Someone else did.
How do we really know he would have done it ?

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Sithofwookie

Posted: February 7, 2009 02:31 am

IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 2842
Member No.: 815
Joined: June 11, 2008
Total Events Attended: 48

There is no use in debating about it anymore I can almost guarantee the leaders won't reverse the ban.

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rachellove9

Posted: February 7, 2009 03:48 am

IRC Nickname: rachellove
Group: Council
Posts: 6955
Member No.: 173
Joined: January 31, 2008
Total Events Attended: 305

QUOTE (Ranma344 @ February 06, 2009 06:49 pm)

I know all too well people tell people to fuck off in the IRC every day without punishment.. get bent is not near as bad.

Is that between members, member to staff or staff to member?? Idk maybe it makes a difference. Or it could be friend to friend, just who is saying it to who??

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is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

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Jayson

Posted: February 8, 2009 09:17 am

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listen. people say take it to pm so other people dont join in on the arguement.

it is still not alright to flame someone in pm.

in ricks case, he has been walking on thin ice for awhile, he should have known not to do anything other than go to events and talk casually to people.

you guys saying its bias is absolute bullshit.

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Bambaleo

Posted: February 8, 2009 12:15 pm

IRC Nickname: Bam
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QUOTE (Mugger84 @ February 06, 2009 11:38 pm)

QUOTE (rachellove9 @ February 06, 2009 11:37 pm)

(20:09:52) <Rick_Hamm> lmfao....George, I'll only say this once. Get bent and get lost. You don't know dick. You're a sheep...a follower, and that's all you'll ever be.

yar the sheep thing isn't that bad...definetaly not a reason for banning some1. And "you don't know dick"..well not really sure what they were talking about but maybe George was sticking his nose in other peoples business...and maybe he doesn't know dick. It all depends on how you look at it. But hey i am pretty sure George was all the time like "oh sir, please stop talking to i don't want any harm."...i would really like to read the whole convo, in case you do post it i will show it rick and ask him if it's the whole convo, so don't bother editing it or something like that.

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Elyxiatic

Posted: February 8, 2009 12:52 pm

IRC Nickname: Maths
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 1855
Member No.: 54
Joined: December 31, 2007
Total Events Attended: 286

Lol.
I've gotten warn lvls for taking it to pm before.
Like honestly I don't see the point.

We can get warned for speaking in private how stupid.

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Stokenut

Posted: February 8, 2009 06:10 pm

IRC Nickname: Stokenut
Group: Guest
Posts: 2062
Member No.: 805
Joined: June 10, 2008
Total Events Attended: 112

You just can't win.

You have two options.

A) Flame/Argue in #wg or #wg_lobby and get a warning level for it.

Stop flaming and be reminded to "Take it to PM", upon which you end up with another warning level for arguing in PM.

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Challenge any creationist to a debate.
They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs".
I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research.
I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs".

WG_Aaron

Posted: February 9, 2009 06:21 pm

IRC Nickname: ``Aaron
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 1055
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Joined: January 21, 2008
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Ive been flamed before in Pm, and not just a "lul nub". It went on for a good 10-20 mins, I Pmed leaders, and nothing was done. Why the change of heart now?

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WG_Aaron

Posted: February 9, 2009 06:29 pm

IRC Nickname: ``Aaron
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 1055
Member No.: 149
Joined: January 21, 2008
Total Events Attended: 34

QUOTE (Mugger84 @ February 06, 2009 04:05 pm)

By your logic, a member could pm another saying the most obscene comments about them whenever they please, and not be repremanded? That makes no sense?

I rarely ever tell anyone to 'take something to PM' - I do my utmost to solve the actual situation by taking the two people into a separate channel to discuss the issue.

Rick Hamm's abusive behavior towards a tertiary was completely unacceptable. Had no action been taken whatever, the leadership would have been accused of bias in favour of Rick Hamm. By banning him, obviously we are still accused of bias against Rick Hamm. As I pointed out on his leaving topic, with the Rick Hamm situation, unfortunately we can not please everyone.

That being said, harrasment, disrespect and flaming towards a clan mate in PM is equally as unacceptable as it would be in the main channel. I have always personally taken a firm stance on this. I believe that flaming is an offence by whatever means it is sent to the target. For this reason, Rick hamm recieved a warning level.

~Mugger84

Then why tell us to take it to Pm?

We will obviously receive the same warn level no matter where we flame.

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