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 His Lordship's Goodbye
Posted: June 26, 2008 09:52 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: ``Jordan
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I'm pretty shocked at some of the short, and somewhat rude reply's by some of the members. This man created this clan, lead it for many years and built up the reputation that WG now has today. He spent countless hours working towards the clan, so the least we can do, as of this moment, is AT LEAST wish him all the best.

Eugene, in my eyes, you have always been the authority figure and leader at WG. I am somewhat confused at who would treat you with such disrespect that would lead you to retirement and then unfortunately leaving the clan completely.

I truly wish you all the best, you played such a big role in this clan and NO ONE has put more effort into WG than you did. You will be missed and never forgotten.

Goodbye and goodluck Eugene. I wish you all the very best in life and wherever it may take you.

~Jordan


 
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Posted: June 26, 2008 10:12 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Tmal34 @ June 26, 2008 03:56 am)
Jaxx.
WG becoming NH?
Wtf lol?

idk mmkay lol


but i find that what was done was extremely disrispectful
 
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Posted: June 26, 2008 12:09 pmTop
   


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Well Gene my old mate, you know how i feel about you leaving, but incase you dont, ill lay it out perfectly simple so that everyone can understand.


1. you really should stay, We need you just as much as you need us....i know that for sure having left wg a few times, wg isnt just a clan in a game... its something completely different. yeah sure we run around hitting each other with pixels and chat with each other over immense distances.....but pixels and distances dont matter. What ties us together is the bond that the distances and pixels have helped make...i dont know about everyone else here, but i think your excellent.

2. Regardless of how much this member has effected you, isnt the point mentioned above worth fighting for?... Honestly... you love us... YOU CANNOT DENY IT!! (all of your oppionons on denying your undying love for us have now officially been rejected.)

3. Think about trial choobs like me...like people join this clan hearing of how Awesome\cool you are, hell the original time i joined was because i liked how you told of An Unforgivable sin.... that and that ALONE brought me to wg back just after rs2 had started...

4. neway let noobs be noobs and enjoy what youve created for once, i see all this hard work but...only as of recent have i seen some enjoyment...

"FOR LORDY" - Havochaha


neway, goodluck with assessments n stuff, i know ull knock them dead.

p.s - U pwn, but not as much as me. (because i have NOTHING LEFT)
 
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Posted: June 26, 2008 10:48 pmTop
   
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Bah, hard to know what to say. I was going to try to structure it, but best thing to do is speak from the heart.

Whatever happens and whoever says what, you are the founder of this clan, and the rank is a great way to symbolise the years of very hard work that you've put in.

This recent week has been a test, and I can see that it mustn't feel good to be fighting what you think is the real thing, yet have people disagree with you. Its easy for people to see one dominant person over another, pitying the weaker one, then completely forgetting to show respect to the more dominant one, who has feelings just the same.

You can see from the posts that you are hugely respected, and I also respect you. Sure, I disagree with you on certain things, but people are born with unique peronalities so everyone's bound to disagree on somethings if they manage to raise them in the first place. WG isn't a Government, its a family. Whatever cafuffles we have in the past, should be brushed over once a compromise is reached, and everything returning to normal.

Its such a huge shame to see you with such strong feelings towards parting (although, of course, understand it to some extent). However, WG just wouldn't be the same without you. There's something about your presence that makes WG so colourful and vitalised, and its you being round that offers the clan its motivation. You can see from the replies that you are hugley respected, and with good reason.

In the end, its up to you. You've got your whole life ahead of you, and you're becoming ever more successful. Now the responsibility of leaing is over, you're free to chose your involvement with WG. I just ask you, if not restore your rank back to founder, to spend what time you can on the IRC/forums and don't let us forget you.

If not, i'm tracking down your contact details hash.png



 
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Posted: June 26, 2008 11:39 pmTop
   


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I think you should keep your founder rank, I personally don't expect you to do much as you've done a lot for this clan in the past. Wish I was here during your leadership, good luck with assesments and life.
 
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Posted: June 27, 2008 02:59 amTop
   
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Some of us show respect in ways that might seem strange to you. I hold those I respect up to higher standards than others: If I do not criticize you when you do something wrong than I see you as a child or someone too ignorant or stupid to know any better; if I admonish you for something done wrong I atleast see you as mature or an adult; if I harshly criticize you it is because I respect you enough to hold you to certain ethical and moral standards.

I am not going to coddle you with kind words. That is what I would do for a child (someone like Crucio), not someone I respect.

I will say this though, it is a fine clan you have created, and I hope that is something you are proud of even it has been ungrateful and abusive towards you.

 
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Posted: June 27, 2008 03:16 amTop
   


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Well Lordy, we never really talked much, as I'm new here. But, when we did, I thought you were pretty cool smile.gif. I agreed with you on the Crucio incident, and I'm sorry that some of the others couldn't see it the way that you or I did. Good luck with your studies, and keep up the awesome artistic talents, they'll take you far in life.

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Posted: June 27, 2008 06:21 pmTop
   
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I'm not well-versed in putting soft words over matters I feel strongly about. And so, I will just leave these words as they are.

It has been 2 days and I hope your assessment is going well. The first thing I felt when I saw this, was disappointment. It's not about criticism, but rather I wish you hadn't had to do this. Regardless of what happened it does not deny the fact that you have placed alot of time and sweat over the building of this clan. And the honor of founder is really a separate thing altogether. Even if you are not the founder, but you were one of them and the leader who had led things to what they are now. It does not need incidents to take away a founding right.

However, I can somehow understand the basis of why it is done so. A disappointment in return somewhat. But, I only hope you will come around that for the long term benefits.

It is hard to put off what you have been doing for years and sit back, not do anything about what you feel strongly about. It does take time and effort to sink in. But I guess, it is when we remind ourselves why in the first place we had decided being in the position we are, it makes it a little easier to carry on in a newfound ground. A different experience, to contribute things from another position, another handle altogether.

So, I would attribute your actions to almost a kinetic reaction, options that happen to be open to you, free to exercise without a second thought. Hardly something to blame about. And yet, also in hope that its understood, in respect to the passover, it is also to be bold in trust to allow the new wave to make new grounds, whether or not it turns out to be a mistake or that good judgements that will lead it to make greater new horizons. To have been there and offer the experience of wisdom and knowledge, to advice. Everything is a learning experience, so was the past and it will be so for the future.

I want you to know, if I hadn't respected your views I would not have reflected on them enough to decide finding out things for myself. To me, I felt it only fair to know things as much as possible firsthand, to see both sides especially over something as such. We are not dealing with a strategy or theory, but any individual with feelings, just like us.

Puny, weak or strong. Sympathise or empathise. Whichever way, it is for a quest to understand and not shortchange any individual putting ourselves in all shoes possible. Experiences creates alarm bells but only IMO if all possible grounds are touched, firsthand - from an amiacable position.

I had found myself finding it really difficult to agree. At least, it wasn't enough to judge until proven with a chance, if we trust and remain in the same principles, things will work itself out.

Maybe it is highly possible because I come from similar experiences then when I was a trial, treatments meted out by some others who were bestowed authority to act in freewill for no proper reason to be treated as dirt because of authority. And also to have witnessed others who went through the same unable to speak up or could. Although, each individuals prove themselves in their own ways. To have been an underdog and gratefully reflected on many things. If I have been wrong, I'd rather a rebuttal in return, to at least be able to understand more if it wasn't right.

I certainly can't say I agree with alot of things you do but it does not mean taking away that appreciation of all that you have done in goodwill and achievement, including all the other things I agree with you and had supported then. And if I had not trusted and treated you as an individual capable of understanding, I would not have gone through all those lengths, whether or not we agree.

I will not take back what I've said but I will gladly learn if I am eventually wrong.

In the end, whatever you decide just know that, you are not totally unappreciated. There's no such thing as 100% respect or even high ends. Because, as humans, we are flawed. And the fluctuations, views and bestowment comes from other fluctuations, views and bestowments. When we put those side by side, it becomes so much of a give and take - in the end, it is to appreciate the given and learn from what's not given.

I wish you well whatever the decision and the assessment before you.
 
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Posted: June 27, 2008 07:14 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Valdremia @ June 27, 2008 01:21 pm)
I'm not well-versed in putting soft words over matters I feel strongly about. And so, I will just leave these words as they are.

It has been 2 days and I hope your assessment is going well. The first thing I felt when I saw this, was disappointment. It's not about criticism, but rather I wish you hadn't had to do this. Regardless of what happened it does not deny the fact that you have placed alot of time and sweat over the building of this clan. And the honor of founder is really a separate thing altogether. Even if you are not the founder, but you were one of them and the leader who had led things to what they are now. It does not need incidents to take away a founding right.

However, I can somehow understand the basis of why it is done so. A disappointment in return somewhat. But, I only hope you will come around that for the long term benefits.

It is hard to put off what you have been doing for years and sit back, not do anything about what you feel strongly about. It does take time and effort to sink in. But I guess, it is when we remind ourselves why in the first place we had decided being in the position we are, it makes it a little easier to carry on in a newfound ground. A different experience, to contribute things from another position, another handle altogether.

So, I would attribute your actions to almost a kinetic reaction, options that happen to be open to you, free to exercise without a second thought. Hardly something to blame about. And yet, also in hope that its understood, in respect to the passover, it is also to be bold in trust to allow the new wave to make new grounds, whether or not it turns out to be a mistake or that good judgements that will lead it to make greater new horizons. To have been there and offer the experience of wisdom and knowledge, to advice. Everything is a learning experience, so was the past and it will be so for the future.

I want you to know, if I hadn't respected your views I would not have reflected on them enough to decide finding out things for myself. To me, I felt it only fair to know things as much as possible firsthand, to see both sides especially over something as such. We are not dealing with a strategy or theory, but any individual with feelings, just like us.

Puny, weak or strong. Sympathise or empathise. Whichever way, it is for a quest to understand and not shortchange any individual putting ourselves in all shoes possible. Experiences creates alarm bells but only IMO if all possible grounds are touched, firsthand - from an amiacable position.

I had found myself finding it really difficult to agree. At least, it wasn't enough to judge until proven with a chance, if we trust and remain in the same principles, things will work itself out.

Maybe it is highly possible because I come from similar experiences then when I was a trial, treatments meted out by some others who were bestowed authority to act in freewill for no proper reason to be treated as dirt because of authority. And also to have witnessed others who went through the same unable to speak up or could. Although, each individuals prove themselves in their own ways. To have been an underdog and gratefully reflected on many things. If I have been wrong, I'd rather a rebuttal in return, to at least be able to understand more if it wasn't right.

I certainly can't say I agree with alot of things you do but it does not mean taking away that appreciation of all that you have done in goodwill and achievement, including all the other things I agree with you and had supported then. And if I had not trusted and treated you as an individual capable of understanding, I would not have gone through all those lengths, whether or not we agree.

I will not take back what I've said but I will gladly learn if I am eventually wrong.

In the end, whatever you decide just know that, you are not totally unappreciated. There's no such thing as 100% respect or even high ends. Because, as humans, we are flawed. And the fluctuations, views and bestowment comes from other fluctuations, views and bestowments. When we put those side by side, it becomes so much of a give and take - in the end, it is to appreciate the given and learn from what's not given.

I wish you well whatever the decision and the assessment before you.

Ive been checking this topic alot just waiting for you to post lol. I dont konw why buy I love reading your post no matter how long and everytime i see one i have to read it.....stalker much? Cha i think so.
 
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Posted: June 28, 2008 03:58 pmTop
   


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Not going to say much because im inactive and what not.
But good lucky Eugene. Im usually there to stick by you but this time since i couldnt be on im sorry i wasnt.

Good bye Sir twas fun following behind you.
 
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Posted: June 29, 2008 03:22 pmTop
   
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Sorry you were abused. I hope I never added to your aggravation. I tried sending you a personal message but your box is full. Good luck in life and I hope maybe now I will see you in rs as a relaxed skiller sometime. If you ever wanta just hang out pm me.

WG will always be a part of who you are, so dont think leaving the clan will change your love for it. In time you will have most found memories of rs and wg. Most things worth giving your love will hurt you deeply from time to time.

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is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
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Posted: June 29, 2008 04:22 pmTop
   


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A true great person, a legend of runescape.
 
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Posted: June 29, 2008 04:53 pmTop
   
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sorry to see you go you made an amazing site btw happy.gif
 
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Posted: July 1, 2008 03:16 pmTop
   
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Wow, absolutely nothing ever changes here...

Just a comment, not trying to be an asshole. I'm still kind of pissed at you in general though. Anyway, sorry you're having a rough time. Hope the assessments went well.

Too polite... dry.gif
 
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