Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..
 
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Actually Supreme Skillers has one of the best reputations of any clan around. Nobody has any reason to dislike them, they have no fear of spies, and most of their members tend to be older, smarter, people. Not bashing warring clans like us, but there's definitely a direct relationship between stupid arguments, wars, "spies", and other E-Drama and Pk/War clans. This type of environment is very unappealing to some people. And there's also people that don't care what the clan does, they join a clan to have friends and people to talk to.

So no, people would not not care about us if we were skillers, there's definitely some people that would care more.
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..

I'm sorry, I appeared to have missed the part on my application that said 'You should attend every single event you're online for and spend all your time on runescape commited towards your clan.'

I trained my cmb however much I hated recently. For the clan. In return I get denied my rightful participation in a war in which I shouldn't have been dropped. What did I train for then?

I've easily lost around 15 rune sets and gave a donation of 1.2M cash to a Wg member so he could buy rune for our Exer pkri. For the clan.

I've made several arrangements in real life and stayed up late to attend events. For the clan.

When I ask you for some free time to actually play runescape and enjoy it I get this bullshit.

Also your argument stating 'Skilling should never be mandatory because not everyone enjoys it.' Well neither should warring according to that logic. Not everyone enjoys this as well.
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..

I'm sorry, I appeared to have missed the part on my application that said 'You should attend every single event you're online for and spend all your time on runescape commited towards your clan.'

I trained my cmb however much I hated recently. For the clan. In return I get denied my rightful participation in a war in which I shouldn't have been dropped. What did I train for then?

I've easily lost around 15 rune sets and gave a donation of 1.2M cash to a Wg member so he could buy rune for our Exer pkri. For the clan.

I've made several arrangements in real life and stayed up late to attend events. For the clan.

When I ask you for some free time to actually play runescape and enjoy it I get this bullshit.

Also your argument stating 'Skilling should never be mandatory because not everyone enjoys it.' Well neither should warring according to that logic. Not everyone enjoys this as well.

But skilling isn't something we do in the outside clan world, warring we do. Honestly skilling is a joke, our events aren't that fun, where as warring is, and it's what WG is based on.
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..

I'm sorry, I appeared to have missed the part on my application that said 'You should attend every single event you're online for and spend all your time on runescape commited towards your clan.'

I trained my cmb however much I hated recently. For the clan. In return I get denied my rightful participation in a war in which I shouldn't have been dropped. What did I train for then?

I've easily lost around 15 rune sets and gave a donation of 1.2M cash to a Wg member so he could buy rune for our Exer pkri. For the clan.

I've made several arrangements in real life and stayed up late to attend events. For the clan.

When I ask you for some free time to actually play runescape and enjoy it I get this bullshit.

Also your argument stating 'Skilling should never be mandatory because not everyone enjoys it.' Well neither should warring according to that logic. Not everyone enjoys this as well.

Firstly, you were dropped from the war because you were the only person not on Teamspeak, which is absolutely the most important thing.

Secondly, any arrangements IRL, like I said in my post, are legitimate excuses. Playing castle wars during a war, for example, is NOT an excuse.

Thirdly, WG has always had war skipping punishments, this is nothing new. Likewise, skilling events have ALWAYS been optional.
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..

I'm sorry, I appeared to have missed the part on my application that said 'You should attend every single event you're online for and spend all your time on runescape commited towards your clan.'

I trained my cmb however much I hated recently. For the clan. In return I get denied my rightful participation in a war in which I shouldn't have been dropped. What did I train for then?

I've easily lost around 15 rune sets and gave a donation of 1.2M cash to a Wg member so he could buy rune for our Exer pkri. For the clan.

I've made several arrangements in real life and stayed up late to attend events. For the clan.

When I ask you for some free time to actually play runescape and enjoy it I get this bullshit.

Also your argument stating 'Skilling should never be mandatory because not everyone enjoys it.' Well neither should warring according to that logic. Not everyone enjoys this as well.

But skilling isn't something we do in the outside clan world, warring we do. Honestly skilling is a joke, our events aren't that fun, where as warring is, and it's what WG is based on.

For as long as I can remember Wg lived by the arpker code.

This means we accept skillers and help to protect them.

Wg has always been Skilling and Fighting. Wg has never been solemnly based on fighting. Whichever source you got this from is flawed.

It's obvious you've never been to a skilling event and realise how much fun it can be if you actively participate in it. It's not just sitting there running laps at an agility course but there's also things like karaoke and interacting with clan members.
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..

I'm sorry, I appeared to have missed the part on my application that said 'You should attend every single event you're online for and spend all your time on runescape commited towards your clan.'

I trained my cmb however much I hated recently. For the clan. In return I get denied my rightful participation in a war in which I shouldn't have been dropped. What did I train for then?

I've easily lost around 15 rune sets and gave a donation of 1.2M cash to a Wg member so he could buy rune for our Exer pkri. For the clan.

I've made several arrangements in real life and stayed up late to attend events. For the clan.

When I ask you for some free time to actually play runescape and enjoy it I get this bullshit.

Also your argument stating 'Skilling should never be mandatory because not everyone enjoys it.' Well neither should warring according to that logic. Not everyone enjoys this as well.

But skilling isn't something we do in the outside clan world, warring we do. Honestly skilling is a joke, our events aren't that fun, where as warring is, and it's what WG is based on.

For as long as I can remember Wg lived by the arpker code.

This means we accept skillers and help to protect them.

Wg has always been Skilling and Fighting. Wg has never been solemnly based on fighting. Whichever source you got this from is flawed.

It's obvious you've never been to a skilling event and realise how much fun it can be if you actively participate in it. It's not just sitting there running laps at an agility course but there's also things like karaoke and interacting with clan members.

That's where you're wrong, I've attended loads of skilling events, they're all boring and repetitive.

And tell me the last time we protected someone in the wilderness....
 
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Well then I'll be getting a lot of warn levels.

Why would you not come? I mean you joined in the first place..

I'm sorry, I appeared to have missed the part on my application that said 'You should attend every single event you're online for and spend all your time on runescape commited towards your clan.'

I trained my cmb however much I hated recently. For the clan. In return I get denied my rightful participation in a war in which I shouldn't have been dropped. What did I train for then?

I've easily lost around 15 rune sets and gave a donation of 1.2M cash to a Wg member so he could buy rune for our Exer pkri. For the clan.

I've made several arrangements in real life and stayed up late to attend events. For the clan.

When I ask you for some free time to actually play runescape and enjoy it I get this bullshit.

Also your argument stating 'Skilling should never be mandatory because not everyone enjoys it.' Well neither should warring according to that logic. Not everyone enjoys this as well.

Firstly, you were dropped from the war because you were the only person not on Teamspeak, which is absolutely the most important thing.

Secondly, any arrangements IRL, like I said in my post, are legitimate excuses. Playing castle wars during a war, for example, is NOT an excuse.

Thirdly, WG has always had war skipping punishments, this is nothing new. Likewise, skilling events have ALWAYS been optional.

Bullshit. So 2 people getting koed and 1 binder being on ancients outrules me not being on teamspeak and not getting koed since the exodus fight we've had. Teamspeak isn't a crucial as you claim it is. I have been able to keep up very well in the past wars without it and I really felt that all it did during the Re war was be an annoying sound considering the enormous amounts of useless information being sent out. Even bto pmed me after the fight saying it was bs how I was dropped and the first choice for dropping was Sirius who himself even apologised to me. I usually don't mind getting dropped. But after being told to train after getting dropped in matched opts I did and I finally am not the lowest level and I still get dropped. I did the training for the clan for SHIT ALL. Can you believe how fucking pissed off I am at the moment?

So far I've seen none of the members who signed up as yes but didn't show to the Exer/Cr/Re/Exodus fight being punished. Also the concept of kicking people for not attending these non-mandatory wars has only been brought up in this post.

If I want to play castle wars when you guys set up a short prep war I'll be damned if I'm not playing castle wars.

And before anyone tries to challenge my activity. I have gained 40 event attendance in 2 months time along with about 350 forums posts. This is above average activity.
 
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Lol? Warring is a joke. What's the point of two clans fighting eachother for two hours in the same spot? What's the point of people who crash other clan's wars? What's the point of implementing "spies" and "hacking" other people's accounts and forums?

There is no point.

It's a bunch of boys who haven't gone through puberty yet wanting to ruin the game for other boys who haven't gone through puberty yet. I laugh anytime anyone brings of the topic of trying to root out spies. It sounds like you're a god damn three year old, seriously. Grow up.

Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?
 
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Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?

Yes, we are the Wilderness Guardians if you happened to forget. Just like we have in 2005, we war. We war every weekend and we will continue to war every weekend. Skill events fill the time in between.
 
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Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?

Yes, we are the Wilderness Guardians if you happened to forget. Just like we have in 2005, we war. We war every weekend and we will continue to war every weekend. Skill events fill the time in between.

+ fucking 1 to that
 
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Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?

Yes, we are the Wilderness Guardians if you happened to forget. Just like we have in 2005, we war. We war every weekend and we will continue to war every weekend. Skill events fill the time in between.

This is the most uninformed post I've ever seen.

It's simply so stupid that I can't be bothered posting a proper response to it.
 
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Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?

Yes, we are the Wilderness Guardians if you happened to forget. Just like we have in 2005, we war. We war every weekend and we will continue to war every weekend. Skill events fill the time in between.

Sure, but that's different from your moronic logic in your earlier post. Don't make such ludicrous statements.

And it's not really guarding. It's more like begging to fight other groups of people banded together by names that took them too, an hour or so to make up.

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Do you not see where this is going? WG needs some variety in their events. It can still be the wilderness, but it doesn't have to be a war or one of those PKRIs. We want some PK trips. I know there's a bunch of people who have been asking for p2p raids for a long time, and the only one we've had was a few days ago, but it was spontaneous, so most people couldn't come. Why did we even remove weekly raids?

If you make warring mandatory, you should also make raids mandatory. If you made even one p2p mandatory raid, WG could own so much, but no. The leaders continue to cut away at the clan's manhood by only focusing on f2p wars, which a large number of people are going to continue dodging because they simply aren't fun.
 
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Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?

Yes, we are the Wilderness Guardians if you happened to forget. Just like we have in 2005, we war. We war every weekend and we will continue to war every weekend. Skill events fill the time in between.

This is the most uninformed post I've ever seen.

It's simply so stupid that I can't be bothered posting a proper response to it.

Uninformed? Oh shit I forgot, wrong clan. Silly me.
 
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Am I really hearing this from a council member? I don't enjoy warring, I know some others don't, therefore it isn't mandatory, right?

Yes, we are the Wilderness Guardians if you happened to forget. Just like we have in 2005, we war. We war every weekend and we will continue to war every weekend. Skill events fill the time in between.

This is the most uninformed post I've ever seen.

It's simply so stupid that I can't be bothered posting a proper response to it.

Uninformed? Oh shit I forgot, wrong clan. Silly me.

Reread the extended history of Wg on the main website. Make sure to read how Wg is promoted in our recruitment topic and posts and not to forget our recruitment vid.

While you're at it check the photo archives on how regular a war was back then.

And to finish it up

Your point was adressed by me several times in this topic:

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...topic=7904&st=0

This is what I meant by uninformed.
 
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Well think about that one. Since you already proved the point WG contains warring and skilling, you joined to do both.
 
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Well think about that one. Since you already proved the point WG contains warring and skilling, you joined to do both.

That doesn't explain why one is mandatory and the other isn't.
 
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Well think about that one. Since you already proved the point WG contains warring and skilling, you joined to do both.

That doesn't explain why one is mandatory and the other isn't.

 
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Well think about that one. Since you already proved the point WG contains warring and skilling, you joined to do both.

That doesn't explain why one is mandatory and the other isn't.

That STILL doesn't explain why one is mandatory, yet the other isn't.

Why do wars have more importance than skilling events? Is it our reputation? You wish for our reputation to grow? You want people on RSC to see some posts of some stupid fights, and you think that they will flock here?

Maybe if you actually focused more on what our CURRENT members want, and not what our POTENTIAL members look for, things would be a lot better.

Stop worrying about how people in the clan world view WG, and worry more about how people in WG view WG. The way it is now, it seems like WG is some annoying sales person trying to sell itself to everyone who isn't in WG, but after they buy it (join), they find out how crappy things are.

Focus on quality, then quantity.
 
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IRC Nickname: Useph1
Group: Guardian
Posts: 212
Member No.: 125
Joined: January 12, 2008
Total Events Attended: 27

Member for over a year and only 27 events, that's why you hardly see him
 
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Maybe if weekends weren't entire devoted to PvP events, you'd see me at a few more.

Take a look at the event Recap forum.

The only events you see there is PvP stuff, Practice for PvP stuff, Weekly D&D and ToG, and the occasional event that trains the SotW.


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And FYI, the front two pages are littered with people giving excuses of why they didn't come, and people who did come saying how everyone who didn't come is just afraid to lose rune.
 
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Gill wins the award. Take a big breath my wonderful clan brothers.

The issue in more complex than it seems. But the most important issue is, can we be a warring and skilling clan?

I believe that more people notice WG when we have events. They are always asking what clan are we. The more people we have the more they ask! This makes a great impression; especially if we ask them to join us.

But we are also noticed for our warring ability!

Back to another point we have dealt with as a clan before.
Should we require attendance?

(Doesn't it matter that we grew when people just had fun!)

I think that as a clan we can be both a skilling and warring clan. But we can not force people to constantly be there. They burn out, just like council members do. They have to deal with so much.

I think less complaining more hugging!

WG
 
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WG love forever, Kristy