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Posted: February 12, 2009 03:48 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Useph Group: Guest Posts: 267 Member No.: 125 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 29    |
I don't care if we win or lose, I just want to have a good time. Of course it's always pleasant to win, but it's not something I obsess over, and quite frankly I'm not bothered at all if we lose. I can't let a stupid game bother me; just can't do it. If anyone puts more emphasis on winning a RuneScape clan war than actually having fun while being in it, then they need to turn their computer off for a few days and set their priorities straight. You're playing RuneScape to have fun, and if you aren't, you shouldn't be playing. -------------------- Goals 78/99  | 99/99  | 92/99  | 94/99  | 82/99  | 99/99  | 77/99  mIRC Guru  WG's #1 Pyromaniac | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 03:50 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I voted no. Requirement raises have never gone well with WG before in the past, I don't see why one now will. Making our requirements will make us way more of a warring/raiding clan and that is not what WG is. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 04:07 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | I agree wholeheartedly with BTO's post. And I remember that war. Lol Btw, I joined WG at 93 combat right as the reqs were being boosted to 100. I met the woodcut and fletching reqs. Lawl --------------------   Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 04:27 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: ^Dave^ Group: Ex-Member Posts: 735 Member No.: 1616 Joined: January 4, 2009 Total Events Attended: 23 | I say raise to 107 --------------------   | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 05:28 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | Agree with you all the way BTO. I joined WG at about lvl 92 and dg disbanned soon after I joined, It took me a week to get to 100 but honestly, a level 100 can tank a lot better than some 126's, just like some 105's can tank better than some 126's......anybody remember Puremyers (I spelt his name wrong but he was a lvl 103 or something and could tank 100000 people). People should raise their combat to help wg and themselves, not be forced into it, I could have taken my time when dg disbanned but I wanted to actually help wg and meet the req's. Anyone remember Phoenom? He was level 85 or so but was one of the biggest forum contributors in their opinions and facts. Levels do not decide a members worth. Dedication does. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 06:54 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st Group: Founder Posts: 770 Member No.: 2 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 49 | I say leave the reqs at 100, and perhaps add a defense requirement - One, it would help to weed out some of the marginal ones, while leaving those with enough defense to prevent KO. Essentially, you would end up with a real requirement upgrade to 103 or so, while keeping the nominal one at 100. -------------------- Old Avatar - Paypal donation link  I am left handed, and proud of it! Retired from RuneScape. Old forum posts: 2275(s4+s10+wg.com)+1759(z6 old account)+474(z6 new account) Total: 4508 Join date: 4/16/05 | Get Firefox 3.5 now: http://www.getfirefox.com | RobbieSwich for Firefox | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 07:24 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Joe mamma27 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 106 Member No.: 1589 Joined: December 26, 2008 Total Events Attended: 12 | This could be a pretty bad question to ask but... What specifically are the requirements? All I know is that it's 100+. Is that 100+ P2P or 100+ F2P? Are there any pure requirements? If the only requirements are 100+ P2P, I think changing to 100+ F2P would be good. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 08:01 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | it was puremyars99 kiwi, I still talk to him occasionally if I see him around. Now onto Req Raising... I can't really see the benefit in increasing any further over our current 100+ F2p combat requirement, as realisitically I don't think there will actually be much difference in experience between members that join at 100, or members that join at 105 combat. Realisitically a level 100 who is looking at clans is going to join one that offers him a good timezone option as well as features he/she might want (community/skilling/warring etc.) and as there is such a variety of clans out there I am sure that if WG wouldnt let them in they wouldn't specifically train up 105 to join. I also doubt there would be much difference in warring experience between the average lvl 100 and the average lvl 105, as even at 105 you would still be only just high enough/not high enough for Top Clans and as a result we would get less recruits, of marginally better quality. I voted no, 100 F2p is fine. --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 08:10 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kwaichi Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1827 Member No.: 65 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 119 | I would say NO. Our adventage at wars was always the numbers, not the levels, why to chance it ? In general its always hard to change soemthing.... and there occures always some problems. But in general, it might looks pretty nice to have clan members 120+ cmb such as RSD  --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 08:22 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: karel Group: Emeritus Posts: 1021 Member No.: 57 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 89 | I remember the previous requirement raises and voted no -------------------- Sig? | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 08:23 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | I love Combat, and every part of me wants WG to be ATLEAST 105+, but I also love the community here, and I feel that our appeal to higher levels comes at a cost, a cost of them being too combat orientated, and maybe being a risk to the community as they might start demanding stuff from members etc. I voted 102, but 105+ to graduate because it's not that much of a change, and it's nto exactly hard to get. Infact edit: I am going to go with Robbie now. The defence requirement helped last time in was present, so maybe we should implement it again, at the same time as them training to get it and maybe gaining more combat levels anyway. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 08:55 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | I voted no. We would lose the reputation (as Elias said) for being a clan for all.... We're doing fine atm , we're RAW Rank #6 and we're doing well.... people are being ko'ed less often and its all good. So no. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 10:02 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | I believe we should raise the graduation requirements to 105, while still keeping the trial reqs to 100. But all current members aren't required to train at all. Thing is, here's how it goes: Low levels train -> Average goes up -> Low levels join -> Average goes down. So you see, it's not our current members that hurt us warring wise, it's some of the future members who join at the lowest of requirements. Let our current members stay and don't bully any of them to train, but let the change affect new intro's. With 100 for Trial, 105 for full, we still attract low levels and still gain a better combat average. It's also perfect to prove a trial's dedication (as he'll be training for the clan). --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 11:58 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | What about adding 1400 as a total lvl requirement. All but 4 members have that. Two of those have a 99 in something. Suggests: 100+ f2p or 110+ p2p Total lvl 1400 or 95 in a stat Lvl 80 defence All but six of our members currently have the requirements. Defence: 85 would mean 18 members don't meet the requirement 82 would mean 10 members don't meet the requirement 80 would mean 5 members don't meet the requirement --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 12:21 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Raise the graduation req to 105 f2p. Do not let it affect our current members. Combat average will greatly increase, and quite quickly. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 12:43 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 |
What about pure F2P'ers such as Kero? Max level for F2P is about 1300'ish or something, and that's like 2.2k total in P2P  -------------------- MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 01:21 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 |
1400 lvl in p2p or 1100 lvl in f2p with no stats in p2p trained. That fixes it I think. Edit: I had said "OR" 95 in a stat. That still covers many f2p. -------------------- Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~ | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 02:28 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Assassin0345 Group: Clan Friend Posts: 33 Member No.: 1694 Joined: February 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 2 | Voted 110+, would encourage us all to train. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 03:17 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | Good to see you agree with me Lee. Another alternative is that if we won't increase our reqs, get a rune armour req of +5 or +10, and to maintain over that all the time (So if we get a run in or something, there won't be any money excuses used). -------------------- MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 03:28 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jesseh Group: Guest Posts: 2670 Member No.: 297 Joined: March 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 222 | I voted for 105 before i read some of the comments below. MY VOTE IS NO. I think we should just have a training programme for those under 110, so we help them train to get 110, it's partly a requirement but not. More of a push in the right direction. --------------------   17/6/08--> 12/9/08--> 29/11/08--> 5/1/09--> 2/3/09(Left)--> 19/7/09(Rejoin)--> 2/8/09
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Posted: February 12, 2009 03:55 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Groedius Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1556 Member No.: 99 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 256 | Id like to query for our members below this level say if requirements was raised to say i do nol know either 105 or 110 would our current members be pressured into gaining these new requirements or would they be kicked because i think that they've already been accepted as members and we cannot force some1 to train if they want to do other things they enjoy on runescape such as skill and these people are our friends i do not want to see any being kicked or being forced to train if these requirements are put up. Unless like we give a ridiculous amount of time in which for them to gain our new requirements i do not want us to lose members from this and it could cost us potential members who are just a few levels away. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 03:57 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 |
What do you mean by program? Like a schedule? Or a weekly quota? I mean we've got the Combat Skill of the Week which provides incentive for people to train. We can start up Pro Silentium or something like it to give people incentive. We can't really do much more than offer them the incentive. We can't force them to train because then it becomes a requirement. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 04:01 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 |
I agree with this post alot The combat academy got me to 110, and OPH took me to +115, maybe even 118. I gained about 36 cmb levels from OPH. Despite what alot of people say, it had a really good affect. I think one of the reasons why it worked for me is to see such an epic thread with goals and level ups, and competing with others. I actually had the most levels gained for a while I believed, but people bought prayer levels  .Might be different for others, but our cmb average DID rise I believe. -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 04:07 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 | Most skillers are low cmb, so we appeal to them more, so no. --------------------  LOLPNS  Perm banned. | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 04:14 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Don|Tvk Group: Guest Posts: 35 Member No.: 753 Joined: June 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 5 | I think, whe maybe should raise the reqs a bit. But the concept is whe could still get skillers to join here. I don't think skillers should be declined on there combat level. When i joined, whe were most part of skilling. I enjoyed it, even with lower levels. You shouldn't give a fuck about rsc rankings anyways. I can get fun still when whe losing. People should just get part of the community here, like always. Even though, i'm up for higher leveled people here. Runescape is getting a old game now, most of the people should get fast and quick combat levels. Cmb 105+ ftw. -------------------- | ||||
Raise the requirements?