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Posted: July 10, 2009 06:39 pmTop
   


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Look at your overhealing.

... I remember you.
 
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Posted: July 10, 2009 09:50 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Spicy63 @ July 10, 2009 06:39 pm)
Look at your overhealing.

... I remember you.

Thorim my lord!
 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 03:50 amTop
   
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my effective healing doubles the #2 healer. my overhealing triples the #2 healer. does that mean i do like 5x more overall healing than the next guy? tongue.gif
 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 04:49 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ July 11, 2009 03:50 am)
my effective healing doubles the #2 healer. my overhealing triples the #2 healer. does that mean i do like 5x more overall healing than the next guy? tongue.gif

Overhealing is BAD.

Basically, an overheal is a "wasted" heal, meaning you healed a target that was at full health. For example, if a target is down 9k HP, and you holy light them for 11k (Just throwing numbers out), the portion of the heal that actually heals them (In this case, 9k of that 11k heal which puts them at full health) is your effective healing, but since they were down only 9k, and you healed them for 11k, the remaining 2k of that heal was "wasted", called an overheal. So for that 11k heal, 9k was effective with a 2k overheal.

So to break that down into comparisons between you and the number 2 guy, yes, you did twice as much "actual" healing than him, but you also WASTED triple his amount. Basically, he's being the more conservative healer, whereas you're spamming the shit out of everything with 15k (again, just a number) holy lights even if they're only 900 hp in the hole. hash.png

Generally speaking though, as long as noone dies and you don't go OOM, overhealing isn't THAT critical to manage, though if you overheal a lot, you'll get your ass kicked on mana intensive fights. From my limited knowledge of paladins though, you'll generally overheal a lot if you're a partial or full time raid healer, since that's just how your class works. If you REALLY want to be the best possible healer, you can try and reduce your overhealing, but as long as you're not having problems, it's not something to lose sleep over.

Keep in mind though, that i'm not a healer, so everything I just said is all second hand or personal deductions.
 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 06:08 amTop
   
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Matt, Naxx took FIVE HOURS AND FORTY MINUTES THIS EVENING.

I haven't had a migraine this bad since middle school. sad.gif
 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 07:56 amTop
   
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pally healers=easy

stack int.....your an instant healer.
 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 10:47 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Eregion2 @ July 11, 2009 06:08 am)
Matt, Naxx took FIVE HOURS AND FORTY MINUTES THIS EVENING.

I haven't had a migraine this bad since middle school. sad.gif

... What?

I left around 4 hours in. Did Sapph and KT really take that long? If so then I'm glad I left early. I was getting frustrated with all the delays, plus I had to work early in the morning.

And yeah Sam, everything Matt said about overhealing is pretty much true.
 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 08:23 pmTop
   
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Anyone in an Alliance guild that needs a mage? I am soooo thinking about transferring servers, fizzcrank=teh suck.

I am pretty sure realistically we have 1, maybe 2 guilds pushing content on alliance side, maybe 2-3 on horde.....soooo fail.

Heres server progression in the top 4 guilds


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Rank    Guild Name                   NMS                Ulduar                    Hard Mode

                                             L I R X C K A M F T H G Y      4 X C M H S 3 G 3 A

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1   [A] Animosity                    NM3      L I R X C K A M F T H G Y      4 X - - - - 1 - - -

2   [H] Wyrm                         NM3      L I R X C K A M F T H G Y      2 X - - - - - - - -

3   [H] Indecisive                   NM3      L I R X C K A M F T H G Y      4 - - - - - - - - -

4   [H] Something Diabolical         NM3      L I R X C K A M F T H G -      1 - - - - - - - - -

 
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Posted: July 11, 2009 11:24 pmTop
   
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I was in Something Diabolical for a bit.
 
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Posted: July 12, 2009 07:13 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Dorcha3377 @ July 11, 2009 11:24 pm)
I was in Something Diabolical for a bit.

they are pretty decent in pvp, somehow just beat Rezi(an officer in SD) in a duel just now, i feel so empowered beating a disc priest who has pvp rating more than me......probably wont stop them from flying into wintergrasp keep when its alliance controled and raping all alliance toons though
 
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Posted: July 12, 2009 10:03 amTop
   


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Posted: July 12, 2009 05:31 pmTop
   
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Gratz man!
 
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Posted: July 12, 2009 07:22 pmTop
   
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dang dude, algalon? grats biggrin.gif

< has now done every 25m boss, and downed them all except Yogg Saron. GOT HIM TO 10% LAST NIGHT WITH OUR SECONDARY RAID GROUP FFS.

oh well tongue.gif

btw matt, i'm a pally, overhealing is wut i do. hash.png and with 3.2 overhealing becomes effective healing with the BoL buff
 
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Posted: July 12, 2009 07:35 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ July 12, 2009 07:22 pm)
btw matt, i'm a pally, overhealing is wut i do. hash.png

Overhealing yes, but TRIPLE the second healer?
 
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Posted: July 12, 2009 08:55 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Multikill529 @ July 12, 2009 07:35 pm)
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ July 12, 2009 07:22 pm)
btw matt, i'm a pally, overhealing is wut i do. hash.png

Overhealing yes, but TRIPLE the second healer?

=uber waste of mana

please tell me your mana pool is over 30k unbuffed.....if not....omg
 
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Posted: July 13, 2009 11:51 amTop
   
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Sam is like the Chuck Norris of healadins, except nicer: he only goes oom so that - once in awhile - the other healers can get a spell in edgewise. tongue.gif

Ding52 on my fury warrior, should be in Outland pretty soon.
 
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Posted: July 14, 2009 01:51 amTop
   
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The only fight I ever go oom on anymore is General Vezax, obviously lol. I have over 25k mana unbuffed and I'm geared with very balanced stats for a holy pally. 1410 int, 2275 spellpower, 38.86% HL/HS/FOL crits, 412 haste, 331 mp5.

seriously though in raids I never stop healing. ever. i spam heals 100% constantly, except when not needed or on General. if there's damage being done i'm healing so yea i do alot of overhealing, but my effective healing is rediculously good, and i never go oom ever. hash.png next patch is gonna hurt me quit a bit tho.
 
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Posted: July 14, 2009 02:22 pmTop
   
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My guild's secondary 10-man Uld group got to Yogg last night, after 1.5 hours of attempts on General. Half the group is in the primary 25-man group so they know what they are doing, but the other half (me) does not. But anyways, it wasn't too long before we downed General. It was very late though. Took 3 attempts on Yogg just to show people P1 and P2. We got to P2 every time, each attempt getting farther and farther in. But our best attempt was only 78%. Hopefully when we have more time next week, we'll down him.
 
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Posted: July 14, 2009 07:24 pmTop
   
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Fucking server kicks. angryhahs.gif.png
 
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Posted: July 14, 2009 07:56 pmTop
   
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http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=115589

LMFAO i want to roll a rogue.
 
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Posted: July 14, 2009 08:16 pmTop
   
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What item lets him parachute down like that?
 
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Posted: July 14, 2009 08:39 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Eregion2 @ July 14, 2009 08:16 pm)
What item lets him parachute down like that?

something in the engineering prof.
 
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Posted: July 15, 2009 07:20 amTop
   
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leveling a priest, ding level 16....have to say its kinda boring, Shadow Word:Pain, Bubble, Wand, bubble renew, wand. =teh suck

p.s- retaliation bg sucks, the server failed AGAIN, like 8th time in 4 weeks, and another guild died on my server, that makes like 3 decent alliance guilds....1 of which has cleared 25man to yogg. (not to mention the one that has downed yogg is breaking up in a few weeks) omg i hate my life.
 
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Posted: July 15, 2009 12:32 pmTop
   
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lol, a buddy asked me to heal the first half of naxx10 last night, did spider/plague/abom wings up to gluth. I did 3x the healing of their shaman and 8x the overhealing and never once went oom, even when chain pulling all of patch's room after walking through the slime and not drinking. chain heal ftw or holy light ftl? you tell me. hash.png

75% OF OVERHEALS FTW RAAAAAAWR

also our 25uld is now downing every boss up to general on the first night of raids, and our better 10 man is basically clearing it in one night if they don't screw up too much.
 
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QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ July 15, 2009 07:20 am)
leveling a priest, ding level 16....have to say its kinda boring, Shadow Word:Pain, Bubble, Wand, bubble renew, wand. =teh suck

p.s- retaliation bg sucks, the server failed AGAIN, like 8th time in 4 months, and another guild died on my server, that makes like 3 decent alliance guilds....1 of which has cleared 25man to yogg. (not to mention the one that has downed yogg is breaking up in a few weeks) omg i hate my life.

Rotation: Start with a mind blast, throw up SW:P, wand, repeat (without the SW:P)

All characters have a shitty boring rotation at the start. When you get up to including Mind Flay, Vampiric Touch, Devouring Plague, and Shadow Word: Death, things get fun, trust me. I have no regrets leveling a shadow priest as my main.

My current "rotation" (if you could call it that, because its more of a priority system) on a boss is as follows:

VT, DP, MB, SW:D, Mind Flay until I get 5 stacks of that shadow power thingy (Can't remember the name), then interrupt the mind flay with SW: P.) Then it goes on a priority system, which is VT/DP, then MB, then SW: D. Mind flay is always a filler, and should be interrupted if another DoT or spell is over/off cooldown.

This is bosses only, obviously. On trash or soloing, I go a little more basic. MB, DP or SW:P, SW:D, Mind flay. Obviously if the trash is something like the two guys before emalon, I'll throw on a full range of DoTs because they take longer to go down.
 
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