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Posted: February 12, 2009 04:30 pm  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178    |
BTO, thats what I have been saying for so god damn long, BRING BACK OPH. It was an epic way to train, I loved it. Actually had competition, to see who could get the most levels gained. Just dont include summoning. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 04:33 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: {Rene} Group: Guest Posts: 838 Member No.: 267 Joined: February 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | I don't feel any additional requirements should be added. It's been 100+ for over 2 or 3 years now with some short period of times with it being slightly higher (members who've been around for a few months should know how 'well' that ended up.) I feel that the requirements should simply stay as they are. 100+ Is the perfect level too keep the mass of immature lower levels out, keep a steady inflow of skillers and maintain a good warring average. (116 average with 100+ reqs and a rather large skilling base is good.) I could write up a larger post or my history with Wg/Dg but others have done it for me. There really are no arguments for the raise that can easily be debunked. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 05:00 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mojohaza1 Group: Council Posts: 495 Member No.: 1574 Joined: December 22, 2008 Total Events Attended: 33 | i voted 102 or 102 mainly because i'm just in that category and it appeals if reqs are slightly higher. btw if the reqs are raised i am willing to train hard to get them -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 05:01 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112 | As I've said before, I genuinely think I could pick 9 friends and myself to fight the 15-20 lowest level WG members and we'd take them all out no problem. Because that's how much levels and the skill that comes with maxing combat mean. The number of under 110 that can tank is astronomically low. Even if they have the skills to tank they are impaired right away from their lower hit points and defence levels. Not only that but their attack/strength/range/magic/prayer are terrible by today's standards. Sure 4 years ago 85+ flat combat stats was high and 94 magic was something everybody dreamed of but times change and now it's common and to stay competitive you have to keep your member base competitive. In the past we've had members idle in WG for years gaining absolutely no combat XP and not even trying to contribute to our average. Excuses such as "I don't want to train" or "I don't have time to train" are common and in my opinion, bullshit. We're a combat based clan that does skills too. Not a skilling clan that has optional combat. Another thing I notice about these "skillers" is they don't even have respectable skill totals or multiple high-level skills. In my definition of runescape players they fall into the category of "noob". While despite being 138 combat, someone like Anat would come into the category of "Skiller". That being said I'm not going to support jumping in at the deep-end and saying 110 or gtfo. Instead, let's gradually up the requirements. 2 levels a month. Anyone that doesn't train to within the requirements is kicked, simple as. It's not like 2 combat levels a month for players 100-110 combat is remotely difficult, for anyone that's active anyway. -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 05:07 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | I say Yes to upping the requirements. Even though I agree with Bto's post, people joining at lower combat can gradually become better, I joined at 85 Cmb not knowing what clans were, so there may be people like me joining, but that's like, rare. We have to keep up with the rest of the clan world, It would be nice to see 90% of us in the 118-120 Ftp Combat area. "It would be nice", doesn't have to be, but it would be nice, great help in wars & PKRI's. I also agree with most of what Steve said^. Also, to Graduate, you need 102 FTP Combat. ~Abs EDIT: Suggestion - How about adding Combat requirements to each rank, Higher Guardian, Elite Guardian & so on. It may encourage people to train. It won't be seen as a primary requirement, but more of a "Recommended" type thing. --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 05:09 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: [Narita] Group: Guest Posts: 695 Member No.: 1378 Joined: October 15, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | 105+ would see us taken more seriously. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 05:25 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 | I still like it to be combat level 100. I'm an example of someone who joined at 100 combat. Look at me now (still a noob  ) --------------------  Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 06:30 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1545 Member No.: 1451 Joined: November 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 91 | I voted 107. A hell of alot of clans have 100+, so 107 will attract those who quite aren't there. However i feel if this takes place, there's no need to get rid of those who do meet them, but encourage them strongly to get it, obviously they will have to try, but without being forced or 'no-lifing' --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 07:07 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Starzhine Group: Emeritus Posts: 447 Member No.: 218 Joined: February 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | I think it needs to be 110 or above. Right now 100s = the old 85s. If you have to work hard to meet requirements, you value your membership more. WG  To alll who are not 110 or higher, no worries, you won't be kicked. WG --------------------  WG love forever, Kristy  | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 07:49 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Joe mamma27 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 106 Member No.: 1589 Joined: December 26, 2008 Total Events Attended: 12 | I think that if you were to raise the requirements, you should do it little by little. Maybe raise the requirements to 105+, then a few months later raise the requirements to 110+ (if you want to raise to 110+). That way the current level 100's would have time to train to lvl 105, then when you raise the requirements to 110+ they wouldn't be as far away from the new requirement. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 08:04 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 | I said 105+, 105 isn't that bad, and maybe make a better FA system for 100'ers? --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 10:21 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | How long i have been waiting for this. ill be posting my points on this when my internet is back. -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011  http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: February 12, 2009 11:31 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: txtawkin/kathy Group: Ex-Member Posts: 847 Member No.: 1604 Joined: December 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 45 | I voted no, but in the event that the regs are raised..the current members who do not meet the requirements should be "grandfathered" in. These members met the reguirements when they joined, and WG should honor that relationship with those members as a matter of principle. "Honor" after all, is something we claim to have, no? --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 12:08 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Brian|30 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 565 Member No.: 1547 Joined: December 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 75 | I was level 85 or so when I joined DG and then worked my ass off to get level 100 and want the 105+ requirement. Seriously people it's not HARD to get 5 more levels if you really are dedicated to the clan. -------------------- Dragon Claws Drops: 1 2 Dragonic Visage Drops: 1 Ruined Dragon Drops: 1 Abyssal Whip Drops: 1 2 | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 12:33 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Voted. -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 01:05 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
I agree with all of this post. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 02:12 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: ``Aaron Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1055 Member No.: 149 Joined: January 21, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 |
The day I apped, there were around 4 other apps, after a couple months, the req's were dropped and there were hardly ANY applications, WG went through a drought. It was only after we got rid of sectors did the clan get anybetter. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 02:49 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | I voted no on this. We don't need better levels to be a more powerful clan. During the last few months we have grown significantly in warring ability. There is no reason for this. It can only stunt the momentum going forward. What should be focused on is dedication, hard work and growth. Anyone lower then 100 combat can become a good member. Anyone under 100 combat can become a great member. The levels don't matter. Its just the dedication. Basically if you care about this clan you will become better at whatever we need to do to make it better. It shouldn't be mandatory. I don't think I have much more to say then that. A lot of people have made some very well thought out posts that illustrate this point. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 04:05 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | Joined DG at lv 70 i am now lv 120 f2p and 131 p2p... get fucking over it -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 04:51 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Useph Group: Guest Posts: 267 Member No.: 125 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 29 |
Pro Silentium was cool - made me get 1.1m range xp in about a week without chins. -------------------- Goals 78/99  | 99/99  | 92/99  | 94/99  | 82/99  | 99/99  | 77/99  mIRC Guru  WG's #1 Pyromaniac | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 07:17 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Majeic Group: Ex-Member Posts: 775 Member No.: 1671 Joined: January 28, 2009 Total Events Attended: 77 | I voted 105 (103 trial guardian) on the reqs, on the basis that anyone who has joined before this was made does not have to attain 105. Of course, this would push us into more of a warring clan, rather than skilling. But isn't that what WG is, a warring clan that skills? --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 12:35 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mmangler Group: Emeritus Posts: 1595 Member No.: 1580 Joined: December 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 165 | I will be voting NO. The requirements that are in place resulted in the member list and community that is WG. The CONs outweigh the PROs and WG will likely not benefit from an increase in combat requirements. TY BTO. My first war was much like the one described in your post but worse because I am a much higher combat level and I do not tank well at all. On well, I am working on it. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 03:24 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Joe mamma27 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 106 Member No.: 1589 Joined: December 26, 2008 Total Events Attended: 12 | I saw a lot of people saying that they joined WG when they were lvl 85, or lower than lvl 100, and now they're 110+. I'm one of these lower levels joining so don't think I'm criticising you here  , but when you joined you were a low level. People will continue to train even after joining a clan. It's not like they join a clan then never train. If the requirements will raise slightly, 102-105-110, those people will continue to train. The only difference is that they will have a couple level head start on training to higher levels than a lvl 100 does. It'll also help out the overall average levels since eventually the lowest level will be a 102, 105, or 110, whichever requirements are chosen; instead of a level 100 being the lowest level. Just some of my thoughts in relation to what others are saying. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 08:54 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Starzhine Group: Emeritus Posts: 447 Member No.: 218 Joined: February 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | Those who joined with combat below 100, did not join WG, they joined our Junior Clan DG. When we disbanned DG, all those members were brought into WG. The combat for WG has been at 100 for over three years. WG -------------------- WG love forever, Kristy | ||||
Posted: February 13, 2009 10:48 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 |
hai starz i love you also when wg disbanded the reqs for DG were 75 and from there i had to train 25 lvs to stay in wg thankfully i wasnt rushed but i still did it cus i hated being the one bringing everyone down -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Raise the requirements?
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