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Posted: August 8, 2009 11:24 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103    |
Show me a shadow priest in a top guild that does this, please. A good shadow priest will top meters in a shitty pug, thats about it. I hate to sound like an egotist, but I know my class pretty damned well, I have my rotation down 100%, and there is just no way to come even close to topping meters. Same with the other Shadow Priest in my guild, he is very good but we are both sitting at about the same dps. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 01:20 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | did our 25 and 10 man tuesday night xD we were seriously one of only 3 guilds on the server to do the Jormungar achievement and we were the first ones to do it, so yea. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=-  W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 08:09 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Ranma344 Group: Emeritus Posts: 759 Member No.: 78 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | WoW is going to get it's ass kicked next month by Aion. --------------------  R.I.P. Lucy ! | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 08:14 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
rofl i wish i had a pc to play it, but honestly, aion>wow in pvp from what I have heard, but their end game doesnt look so awesome. btw, how do sPriests get top dps in a raid? they arent their for dps but for replenishment so the whole sPriest top dps sounds pretty weird unless hes way more geared than every1 else. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 09:05 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | Between two of the new trinkets rogues (who choose to use them) are looking at a sudden +256 hit rating increase. This might actually put the white-damage hit cap within reach for endgame raiders, although I'm not sure if it'll be worth gearing for. Just a curiosity.  --------------------  | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 09:49 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | It doesn't matter if a class brings Replenishment, or any other utility. It used to, but not in WotLK. Shadow Preists have superb AoE, coupled with the DoTs any boss that has the slightest amount of AoE an sPriest can easily top the meters. Plenty of bosses have this nowadays. Most "rotations" aren't even rotations any longer, but more so a priority system. And I know many Priests on my server that can near or top the charts in the majority of fights. It also heavily depends upon your raid composition. For the most part, our melee are always on top because we lost some key components to our caster core. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 10:21 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | Sorry, I was talking about single target. My example was Ignis. Me and the other shadow priest DPS'd our hearts out only to find us at the bottom. I didn't get caught in any of the jets, nor slag potted. I was up the whole time and still just couldn't top it. But in all honesty, most of the fights that really matter don't require AoE. Out of the 13 Bosses (No Algalon) in Ulduar, this is how many require AoE.. 1. Razorscale, and only to a small extent. It hardly puts you at top of the meters, not even close. 2. XT. You might be high on the meters for this fight. 3. Kologarn, again to a small extent. 4. Auriaya, again to a small extent. 5. Freya, only for the detonating lashers. 5 fights? Only one would a shadow priest actually come close to topping. All the others have such small AoE components that don't really matter. Although we have so many DoTs, it doesn't make up for our low damage. I'm honestly not sure what classes provide replenishment, but I'm pretty sure that half of them do. Why take a low DPS shadow priest for replenishment when you can have any other class do the same thing with far superior dps? I'm not saying our class sucks. I enjoy it, a lot. I probably wouldn't switch for any other class. But as of right now, shadow priests are UP in PvE. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 10:47 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Ranma344 Group: Emeritus Posts: 759 Member No.: 78 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION AION -------------------- R.I.P. Lucy ! | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2009 11:06 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Ignis is a bad example, melee will always be better on that fight because they don't have to stop casting. Freya3 is superb for an sPriest, being one of the only casters that has some survivability there (Shadowform). The splash damage can hit so many other things be it other Elementals, roots or trees. In my experience, Yogg is also amazing for an sPriest because P3 and the multiple mobs in P2. I find measuring by single-target DPS in Ulduar is pretty much non-existant, because the only ifght that comes close to evening out all the DPS is XT's HM or Algalon, both of which people have mechcanics that can interrupt someone's DPS. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2009 12:04 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | A good caster will only have to stop casting for less than half of a second for a total of about 8 times in the whole fight (speed kill = 4 minutes, jets every 30 seconds I think?). 4 seconds of lost DPS is a little bit, but not enough to make us worthy of the bottom of the charts, considering we were topped by so many other caster DPS. The chance of a root being up while in the AoE phase of detonating lashers is little, as well as a tree being nearby. And what multiple mobs in P2? Caster DPS should be on crushers, not AoEing... and once again in P3, casters are 90% of the time on Yogg, not adds. Also in a group of 3 or less, our AoE is useless. Our AoE hits the number of mobs in the area, minus one.. so for Freya's elementals, we only hit 2 instead of all 3 unless they are grouped up under Freya, which is not always the case. Plus, as with adds in Yogg P3, you usually nuke one at a time, then when it gets low you switch to another. AoE doesn't happen until near the end when they are all almost dead, if at all. You make it sound like you play an spriest, either in the past or now. I can understand if you like your class but being a fanboy isn't the way to go about it. All I'm trying to say is Shadow Priests in PvE have seen much better days. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2009 12:52 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...Terenas&n=Lored I don't think sPriests have ever seen better days. Before 3.0 (and LK) all a Shadow Priest was, was an external source of mana for his or her group. In P2 of Yogg there are usually 2-3 corrupters up, for my guild at least, we have any class with a DoT throwing em up on them. since we usually finish the crusher with time to spare anyway. In P3 Warlocks and sPriests are excellent DPS with Mind Flay/Drain Soul and DoTs (not to the extent of Warlocks of course). -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2009 03:26 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | all I no is that multiple Living bombs per target is now friggen amazing......except for the part when they all blow up and i pull all the mobs from the tank LOL. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2009 01:35 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | FYI, there should never be more than 1 crusher in p2 of Yogg, unless doing it super HM makes more show up or something. Second night of Algalon attempts today, I'm looking forward to it because we have an actual tank tonight! Last time our GM just threw on frost gear and talents and hoped for the best, which wasn't very pretty. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2009 07:19 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | I said corrupters, not crushers. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2009 09:20 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 |
sry, i never learned how to read  thats about right then xD 2 more days until 2nd boss of the colliseum!!! can't wait. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: August 10, 2009 04:08 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | I have 1337 agility. I really want to hit up these new raids but I'm not guilded and don't have time to commit to a serious one. I need to find a good casual guild I guess. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 10, 2009 02:17 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | yea u do, i got kinda lucky early on as theres a lot of casual guilds on my server that only raid 2-3 days a week, but were good enough to clear keepers in ulduar and new content pretty quickly. now im in the #3 guild on the server and its pro -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: August 10, 2009 02:25 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | Thinking about re-rolling with Wayne. If anyone is interested let me know. I'm going to be a hunter and Wayne is going to be a shadow priest I think. Its not planned to be my main toon, though. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 10, 2009 05:31 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 |
I'm sorry about that too Mike, I'm going to have to pass.  I don't want to but I was thinking about it and I just don't have time to roll another toon, especially with a new semester coming up in a week. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 10, 2009 06:48 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
+1 but yea, im probably going to rerole a paladin or a rogue w/ full heirlooms sometime soonish. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 11, 2009 06:45 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | I rolled a hunter w/ all the BoA crap in case I get bored of raiding, like tonight our guild went and finished off a 25naxx we started 2 days ago, and just from Saph/KT I got Soul of the Dead and Voice of Reason, 2 of my bests in slots, even post-ulduar. Epic win? -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: August 11, 2009 04:22 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | Need to prepare for the new Crusader Boss today. Have had a strategy posted in guild forums for a week though. It doesn't seem to bad. I also got my hunter to level 12 yesterday, didn't play much. Its pretty cool that I get aspect of the cheetah @ 16 though, and mount at 20. This is going to make leveling faster than it already is. Also in 3.2, a new 10% exp chest that stacks with shoulders was released. Flying mounts at 60, flying mount speed increased to 150%, and cold weather flying heirloom at 68. This is going to be so easy. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 11, 2009 10:00 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | The new boss is the Eredar dude right? Fight seems easy enough, but parts of it look a bit crazy. I guess we'll see. -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=- W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: August 12, 2009 03:59 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | Its Jaraxxus. 1-shot him on 10 and 25-man, very easy. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 12, 2009 04:17 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | Damn, "Brian" is taken on Malygos.  I was going to level a mage and then get the chef title.  Also finally got the new helm from heroic ToC (5-man) that's amazing, but that I'll never use because I'm 5 conquest emblems away from getting the t8.5 helm that's just slightly better. *sigh* -------------------- | ||||
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