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 Anti VR Alliance, Don't you dare 'lol' at me xD
Posted: February 22, 2009 03:29 amTop
   
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Weeeeee woooooo don't go 'WTF' on me before you read all my post.

VR as some of you may know have always been crashing fights, but now they started to do it more frequently after their #1 rank and have turned into a fully NH clan that focuses on crashing mid ranked clans such as ourselves.

Our fight was crashed yesterday + three other fights all at the same time (Exodus vs THE? + Exer vs CR + Coll vs NG), probably even more.

Top clans will probably be doing nothing about it because VR were smart enough to leave them alone, and top clans won't risk helping mid ranked clans and get their fights crashed.

So what I'm suggesting may sound stupid but trust me, it's totally worth a shot: An Anti VR Alliance.

Almost all clans hate VR, so I can easily see Collision + Exodus + Exercitum join us and few other clans such as CR and TR maybe.

What this alliance will do is the following:
  • Anti crash for clans whenever VR is out, especially clans involved in the alliance.
  • Use welfare to combat VR's welfare
  • Employ the use of spies on VR and acquiring their PK times and hitting them in every PK making them lose members and time
  • Avoid pking any non VR.

These tactics are NH, make no mistake about it. But honestly, it's the only way possible right now because VR IS NH, so we combat them with their very own tactics. It'll make the clan world interesting and alive once more, and it'll prove that we just refuse to stand around watching VR.

And we'll actually be protecting the innocent, tbh.

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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:32 amTop
   
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Basically what we did to RoT back in the old days smile.gif 1 iteming ftw k?

 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:37 amTop
   
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problem would be you'd have to solve all the individual feuds between the smaller clans first. otherwise on these alliance trips, youd have mass chaos
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:38 amTop
   
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BROOO, count me in.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:38 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Pyro Blade26 @ February 22, 2009 03:37 am)
problem would be you'd have to solve all the individual feuds between the smaller clans first. otherwise on these alliance trips, youd have mass chaos

Well, it's mostly clan vs clan relations. We're as far as I know on neutral relations with Collision and Exodus and fairly friendly relations with Exercitum Militus of Honorum.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:40 amTop
   
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ja ok kl.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:43 amTop
   
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Keep up with the posting, sleep time. smile.gif
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 04:21 amTop
   


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WG does not engage in NH tactics, we did 1 item against RoT/NI but that makes them happy, drawing attention to them and giving them a fight.

Even the clans you mentioned together might not be able to handle VR due to coordination etc. Along with this this is exactly what VR wants, is a fight.

Spying and hitting them on PKs, assuming you can get all the clans coordinated, they would be quite happy to have a fight.

WL vs someone was also crashed.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 04:39 amTop
   
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VR is gay, when clans get crashed by them, they should just walk out of wildy and give them minimal acknowledgement.

Since when is VR #1? they suck XD
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 07:04 amTop
   
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WTF
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 07:21 amTop
   
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The only problem is the goal is to fight VR. Fighting VR is the problem. They just have numbers and go all day...They'd love this new challenge.

I think for now we just wait until they settle down and someone steps up and beats them. They really need to lose something. Once they do, people won't be so happy to be there. Their ml doubled over two months. That ml can shrink just as fast.

As it is, we already struggle with pking, etc. It sounds nice on paper, but we pull 40% to 5 day prep PVP Planned fights. Good luck pulling to do no honor one item trips with other clans, etc.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 07:26 amTop
   
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I think we will meet them on megaraid; then we will see...
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 07:29 amTop
   
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Ya it sounds cool to come together and take out VR. It isn't possible though and it is against our policy.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 08:23 amTop
   
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I'm all for it, minus the spying. While it may not be attainable, ideally we should go for it.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 08:54 amTop
   


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Pointless.
All we'd be doing is giving VR a fight.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 09:00 amTop
   
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1. We're not going to stoop to their level.

2. We would still lose even with 10 clans with us. VR has over 200 members, supreme organization, zillions of sets and the willpower to return to a fight until the end of time. They just won't stop. They'll actually ENJOY this new challenge.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 10:06 amTop
   
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we did this with rot back in the day. it doesnt work.

we just have to put up with it.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 12:16 pmTop
   
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I like the sound of this idea.

Anyway like some people already said, this is what VR really wants. They'd wreck us easily because of their organization and their banks; 8 clans would be so difficult to control.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 12:24 pmTop
   
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Wish we cud do something else cus actually, this is what they want.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 01:28 pmTop
   
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They are constantly crashing because people won't fight them. You give them a new challenge and their members will orgasm and do anything they can to turn up, and cream us.

It will also give them an even better excuse to crash our fights. If this was to happen, I doubt I'd want to be involved.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 01:59 pmTop
   
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In my opinion, we should just stay out of the whole thing.
Getting involved = we can never expect an uncrashed fight EVER again. Also VR could try to hack our forums in retaliation.
I know it is virtually impossible for amateur shits like VR to hack Robbie and his security system... but yah don't give them the option.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:33 pmTop
   
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Glenn said the smart thing, although I think we should continue raising our standards to one day be able to hold off against them.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 03:42 pmTop
   
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I would hate to stoop to their level......a famous quote:
"once honor is lost, it cannot be restored" seems appropriate here.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 04:10 pmTop
   
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You have to sink in your morals to beat those without.

However, we know how allied trips started
Mass chaos, beaten by clans half of our opts

We arent strong enough to beat VR, even with the help of other clans

They want action, and we'd just be giving them it.

The same thing with the TT situation. By helping them, we would put ourselves at risk and endanger our own growth.

Until a stronger clan takes action, theres nothing we can do. We hurt ourselves to hurt them, and they can take more hurting then we can.
 
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Posted: February 22, 2009 06:53 pmTop
   
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