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 Ok..Seriously dissapointed.
Posted: February 23, 2009 11:16 pmTop
   
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Right, We say, we are all up for improving our pking, and our returning and shit. But when tonight kicked off (the big cluster fight), you all either fucking chickened out, or said, 'pretend to be tbe' because your scared of a clan crashing us, that crashes us already?

If you recall, the other day, we told vr we had a planned war. Yet they still crashed us. VR dont care who they crash anymore, weather they have beef with us already or not. We had an oppotunity to learn alot of shit tonight.

I was personally in EoS's pile, and they taught me alot. Like pile switching and stuff. Our raid leaders could have learnt alot. We had about 100 opts starting tbh, and it was literally 1 pile to the next, the fall in leader had the next pile called straight away. As soon as 1 was down, they had next one straight away.

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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:17 pmTop
   
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I was personally in EoS's pile, and they taught me alot. Like pile switching and stuff. Our raid leaders could have learnt alot. We had about 100 opts starting tbh, and it was literally 1 pile to the next, the fall in leader had the next pile called straight away. As soon as 1 was down, they had next one straight away.


I like that idea. However, that VR crash was ONCE, but now were gonna get raped 24/7
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:18 pmTop
   
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Wat

Wish I was there, had HW, but yeah we can learn alot, no reason to get mad imo but whatever.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:19 pmTop
   
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There is tbh, we were told not to go, or pretend to be someone else. Why the hell should I? Why cant I go as WG and not pretending to be shit? Im proud to be WG. I dont care if I die. I'll return.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:23 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Leecable @ February 23, 2009 06:19 pm)
There is tbh, we were told not to go, or pretend to be someone else. Why the hell should I? Why cant I go as WG and not pretending to be shit? Im proud to be WG. I dont care if I die. I'll return.

Oh I see what you mean now. Yeah, we shouldn't keep hiding and shit, we're WG, be proud hash.png.

 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:25 pmTop
   
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yeh i went too fuck VR alll other clans standing up to them so why not us as well and yeh we went as non wg so in case any of you have probs with that. but yeh screw them, all else are sick of them....
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:26 pmTop
   
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Words are easy to say. When we start getting crashed EVERY war, raid and shit, then everyone will be complaining. Frankly, we cant compete with VR, theyre in a different league to us, like it or not. If we could, which I wish, then we would have taken down VR long ago
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:26 pmTop
   


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The passion of youth. VR has not put any real effort into us yet, in clusters like this it's clans like us that get fucked over because VR can't handle TT, Corr or any of others. Instead clans like us who join are targeted for revenge so they can feel better and reduce the opposition. The wilderness is not the place to fight VR.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:28 pmTop
   
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I would have come if there was more people who knew me, you know alot of EoS, they know your name, for people like me it wouldn't be hard for them to pile without knowing i was with them.

If we went as WG i would have been in there in a flash.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:31 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ February 23, 2009 07:26 pm)
The passion of youth. VR has not put any real effort into us yet, in clusters like this it's clans like us that get fucked over because VR can't handle TT, Corr or any of others. Instead clans like us who join are targeted for revenge so they can feel better and reduce the opposition. The wilderness is not the place to fight VR.

This.

We didn't even touch VR yet simply saying they were wrong got us targeted.
Until we start pulling 95% of our ML to raids, I don't think it's an option.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:33 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ February 23, 2009 06:26 pm)
The passion of youth. VR has not put any real effort into us yet, in clusters like this it's clans like us that get fucked over because VR can't handle TT, Corr or any of others. Instead clans like us who join are targeted for revenge so they can feel better and reduce the opposition. The wilderness is not the place to fight VR.

Tbh, whats 200k? Who cares, we could have gotten a dig at VR for crashing us. If were willing to help the larger clans, then they will help us, if were getting crap from VR.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:34 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ February 23, 2009 06:31 pm)
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The passion of youth.  VR has not put any real effort into us yet, in clusters like this it's clans like us that get fucked over because VR can't handle TT, Corr or any of others. Instead clans like us who join are targeted for revenge so they can feel better and reduce the opposition.  The wilderness is not the place to fight VR.

This.

We didn't even touch VR yet simply saying they were wrong got us targeted.
Until we start pulling 95% of our ML to raids, I don't think it's an option.

Sorry about the double post.

Randy, It wont happen because people are scared of losing 200k. Simple as. No matter how hard we try. To get 70+ people to turn up to a riad, we would need a ML of about 400 people. Simple as.

 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:39 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Leecable @ February 23, 2009 07:33 pm)
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The passion of youth.  VR has not put any real effort into us yet, in clusters like this it's clans like us that get fucked over because VR can't handle TT, Corr or any of others. Instead clans like us who join are targeted for revenge so they can feel better and reduce the opposition.  The wilderness is not the place to fight VR.

Tbh, whats 200k? Who cares, we could have gotten a dig at VR for crashing us. If were willing to help the larger clans, then they will help us, if were getting crap from VR.

It's different. Lets say VR is fighting Clan X, each clan has 100+ people. Unless we're actually asked to join, it's considered crashing. In another case, like a cluster, where no one is invited and you just join in, WG's 20 people unfortunately won't go noticed. For this reason, it's not smart to join those kinds of fights, and we'll most certainly feel the revenge of VR in terms of them crashing and/or planting spies.

I'm with you Lee, as much as I want to get out there and get involved, I don't think the time is right. We should continue our mega raids, find out our true capabilities, and even use our allies to find our potential. Once we're ready, we'll know.
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:43 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ February 23, 2009 06:39 pm)
I'm with you Lee, as much as I want to get out there and get involved, I don't think the time is right. We should continue our mega raids, find out our true capabilities, and even use our allies to find our potential. Once we're ready, we'll know.

We were told that we wernt to call our allies. So we couldnt do that, we ended up with about 5 wg up there. I personally had the most fun in the wildy, i have had in ages. EoS didnt mind us in there pile, I was given there TS details. Yet we still get 3 people, say yea, I wanna go and get involved.
 
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+1 lee - short and simple (like your pns... ily)
 
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Posted: February 23, 2009 11:56 pmTop
   
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When we sided with TT that one day, we nearly cost ourselves everything we've worked up to. You have to see that it took Lordy alot to go back on his word to help TT.

Trust me, if we helped that day, we would be in a major slump.

We are nothing compared to VR. We are a insignificant spec compared to them. Forget their main pile, their SNIPER unit could take on WG. They crashed us on saturday, but they didnt crash us because they dislike us (they already do some bit). They crashed us because we were THERE. Imagine if they actually developed a REAL hatred for us. This atm is nothing.

We are not strong enough to do anything without the help of the top 5 clans. Even with TBE, TDM, and WG at our best pull, we would get wrecked.

I dont want to get WG involved in a fight that isnt ours. Sure they crashed our fight, but until we have Lordy's say, WG will not be massing for any cluster vs VR. They have enough snipers to completely ruin our pile and still manage to have a solid main pile. The other clans can take these snipers out quickly, but WG do not have the numbers to hold off on ourselves.

You guys were allowed to go to that cluster, but until we have a final decision from the leadership, WG as a clan will not be actively fighting VR. Thats why I told you guys not to go as "WG", but as "EoS/TT/Corr."

Sure we could hurt VR a bit, but if VR can take alot more and inflict more punishment than we can.

This isnt a matter of pride or rune. This could seriously affect WG's future.
 
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Posted: February 24, 2009 12:04 amTop
   
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It surprised me that the raid leaders did not call a mass + we go up with all the other clans.

Look at it this way.
If VR is crashing us, even after we left them alone + didn't say anything, is that not a reason to stand up and fight them?
Like honestly, hiding away + hoping they won't crash our next fight is stupid.
We tried that already and it didn't work.

 
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Posted: February 24, 2009 12:04 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Back to Own @ February 23, 2009 06:56 pm)
When we sided with TT that one day, we nearly cost ourselves everything we've worked up to. You have to see that it took Lordy alot to go back on his word to help TT.

Trust me, if we helped that day, we would be in a major slump.

We are nothing compared to VR. We are a insignificant spec compared to them. Forget their main pile, their SNIPER unit could take on WG. They crashed us on saturday, but they didnt crash us because they dislike us (they already do some bit). They crashed us because we were THERE. Imagine if they actually developed a REAL hatred for us. This atm is nothing.

We are not strong enough to do anything without the help of the top 5 clans. Even with TBE, TDM, and WG at our best pull, we would get wrecked.

I dont want to get WG involved in a fight that isnt ours. Sure they crashed our fight, but until we have Lordy's say, WG will not be massing for any cluster vs VR. They have enough snipers to completely ruin our pile and still manage to have a solid main pile. The other clans can take these snipers out quickly, but WG do not have the numbers to hold off on ourselves.

You guys were allowed to go to that cluster, but until we have a final decision from the leadership, WG as a clan will not be actively fighting VR. Thats why I told you guys not to go as "WG", but as "EoS/TT/Corr."

Sure we could hurt VR a bit, but if VR can take alot more and inflict more punishment than we can.

This isnt a matter of pride or rune. This could seriously affect WG's future.

Bto, ask kero, before you turned up, eos had 35 people, and were downing everyone. Even we can pull 35 people. We dont need like a billion people to give them a fight. Just pick them off, one by one.


 
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Posted: February 24, 2009 12:06 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Leecable @ February 23, 2009 07:04 pm)
Bto, ask kero, before you turned up, eos had 35 people, and were downing everyone. Even we can pull 35 people. We dont need like a billion people to give them a fight. Just pick them off, one by one.

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By ourselves? With allies we pull like 40 combined.
 
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Posted: February 24, 2009 12:11 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Back to Own @ February 23, 2009 07:06 pm)
QUOTE (Leecable @ February 23, 2009 07:04 pm)
Bto, ask kero, before you turned up, eos had 35 people, and were downing everyone. Even we can pull 35 people. We dont need like a billion people to give them a fight. Just pick them off, one by one.

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By ourselves? With allies we pull like 40 combined.

Yet we have like 85 on our ML, and we cant pull 35 people???
 
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Posted: February 24, 2009 12:20 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Leecable @ February 23, 2009 07:11 pm)
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QUOTE (Leecable @ February 23, 2009 07:04 pm)
Bto, ask kero, before you turned up, eos had 35 people, and were downing everyone. Even we can pull 35 people. We dont need like a billion people to give them a fight. Just pick them off, one by one.

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By ourselves? With allies we pull like 40 combined.

Yet we have like 85 on our ML, and we cant pull 35 people???

Um we can barely pull 15 to short prep raids.

Again, VR did not target us on saturday because we are WG. They targeted us because we were THERE. The same with the 8 clans crashed by VR. It was because they were THERE, not because they have beef with VR.

I allowed WG to go fight with the other clans vs VR. Until the council/lordy figure what our stance is, I'm not going to drag us into a fight that could be detrimental.
 
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