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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:19 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Chimpy
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So ya I know I'm not that important or anything, many of you might not even know me that much, but anyways this is just What I've noticed.

Dedication. WG doesn't have it. Or I Guess I should say half of WG doesn't have it.

Last night at the cluster when we were fighting VR there were tons of people in TS but there was like maybe...10-15 people at the actual cluster at our peak? This happens many times. Nobody goes to events, nobody goes to raids. It seems like half of you guys cba to do anything, you're just plain lazy.

Also, nobody shows up to pvp wars/pkri's. Yeah you say you are busy and what not etc etc. But when we have a CWA war we pull 60+ and in a PvP War/PKRI we pull just a tad over 30. you can't tell me 30 people were busy. Alot of clans, even comunity clans like THE can pull 2/3 or more of their ML to fights, we can hardly pull 1/3.

Rob, Lee, and Mike all left because of the lack of dedication in this clan, as well as countless other people.

So ya like seriously start caring, stop making up excuses.

~Chimpy


 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:24 pmTop
   
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Ur talking about friday evening I guess...? Well. I'm sure more than half of the clan cares about these events but can't always go, especially on friday eve's wink.gif There are people indeed who don't care about these things and those should (somehow) get warned about this issue.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:28 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Ubg-Fcbruges @ March 01, 2009 11:24 am)
Ur talking about friday evening I guess...? Well. I'm sure more than half of the clan cares about these events but can't always go, especially on friday eve's wink.gif There are people indeed who don't care about these things and those should (somehow) get warned about this issue.

It's fine if you had valid reasons. RL always trumps RS. But alot of epople make up excuses just so they can avoid losing rune (which isn't even that much - like 150k if you protect item the rune plate.)
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:30 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Chimp Guy0 @ March 01, 2009 05:19 pm)
So ya I know I'm not that important or anything, many of you might not even know me that much, but anyways this is just What I've noticed.

Dedication. WG doesn't have it. Or I Guess I should say half of WG doesn't have it.

Last night at the cluster when we were fighting VR there were tons of people in TS but there was like maybe...10-15 people at the actual cluster at our peak? This happens many times. Nobody goes to events, nobody goes to raids. It seems like half of you guys cba to do anything, you're just plain lazy.

Also, nobody shows up to pvp wars/pkri's. Yeah you say you are busy and what not etc etc. But when we have a CWA war we pull 60+ and in a PvP War/PKRI we pull just a tad over 30. you can't tell me 30 people were busy. Alot of clans, even comunity clans like THE can pull 2/3 or more of their ML to fights, we can hardly pull 1/3.

Rob, Lee, and Mike all left because of the lack of dedication in this clan, as well as countless other people.

So ya like seriously start caring, stop making up excuses.

~Chimpy

Exactly how I feel, and have been feeling for the past few months.

I'd elaborate, but it'd become one of my unread essays, haha.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:31 pmTop
   
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Good topic mate but I assure my leaving has nothing to do with the dedication WG is showing.

Some people could argue PvP doesn't prove your dedication and others could say it does.

They're both right.

I'm not leaving WG because of a 'slump' because it's not really in one.
When I joined I promised myself never to leave if the clan does slump, but only if I have a valid reason.

I just want to try out PvP in a top clan, thats why neko2.gif
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:34 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Ragingwealth @ March 01, 2009 11:31 am)
Good topic mate but I assure my leaving has nothing to do with the dedication WG is showing.

Some people could argue PvP doesn't prove your dedication and others could say it does.

They're both right.

I'm not leaving WG because of a 'slump' because it's not really in one.
When I joined I promised myself never to leave if the clan does slump, but only if I have a valid reason.

I just want to try out PvP in a top clan, thats why neko2.gif

Oh...I'm a liar neko2.gif

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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:34 pmTop
   
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Wg IS a top clan blush.gif
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:37 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Ubg-Fcbruges @ March 01, 2009 04:34 pm)
Wg IS a top clan blush.gif

Why I know! I meant a top pew pew pvp clan not a top overall clan D:
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:38 pmTop
   
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these guys will return to wg in 2 months tops
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:38 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Ragingwealth @ March 01, 2009 11:37 am)
QUOTE (Ubg-Fcbruges @ March 01, 2009 04:34 pm)
Wg IS a top clan  blush.gif

Why I know! I meant a top pew pew pvp clan not a top overall clan D:

Yeah WG is nowhere near top PvP clan. And probably not even CWA if all the major clcans were still in it. But we still gud hash.png
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:43 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Chimp Guy0 @ March 01, 2009 05:38 pm)
QUOTE (Ragingwealth @ March 01, 2009 11:37 am)
QUOTE (Ubg-Fcbruges @ March 01, 2009 04:34 pm)
Wg IS a top clan  blush.gif

Why I know! I meant a top pew pew pvp clan not a top overall clan D:

Yeah WG is nowhere near top PvP clan. And probably not even CWA if all the major clcans were still in it. But we still gud hash.png

NO! cussing.gif
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:43 pmTop
   
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I agree. It somewhat sickens me to a point.
I will be completely honest, there are some raids that I really don't feel like going to so I don't, but the main reason that I don't go to them is because I don't feel like logging onto RuneScape to play them. If I am going to *skip* a raid, I am going to stay in IRC and I will tell the truth if someone asks me; hate me or not.

However, if the raid results in a PKRI/war, by hell I will be there ASAP if I know about it.

If only the majority of WG had half the mentality of me....
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 04:57 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ March 01, 2009 11:43 am)
I agree. It somewhat sickens me to a point.
I will be completely honest, there are some raids that I really don't feel like going to so I don't, but the main reason that I don't go to them is because I don't feel like logging onto RuneScape to play them. If I am going to *skip* a raid, I am going to stay in IRC and I will tell the truth if someone asks me; hate me or not.

However, if the raid results in a PKRI/war, by hell I will be there ASAP if I know about it.

If only the majority of WG had half the mentality of me....

Well set raids technically aren't mandatory, so you're safe, but just really helps if you come. I know what it's like for us low levels, we just get piled and it is no fun for us sometimes, but hey, I still go when I can! (And I'm poor!)

And stfu bout my cmb Omar I'm working on it neko2.gif
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 05:00 pmTop
   


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Telling people to care doesn't work, we've tried...
It's a matter of enforcing it now, unfortunately
 
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Posted: March 1, 2009 05:09 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ March 01, 2009 12:00 pm)
Telling people to care doesn't work, we've tried...
It's a matter of enforcing it now, unfortunately

Guess so hashdown.gif.png
 
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Posted: March 2, 2009 12:07 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ March 01, 2009 12:00 pm)
Telling people to care doesn't work, we've tried...
It's a matter of enforcing it now, unfortunately

Has forcing really worked before? Has begging worked?

Get more to the root of things then just forcing or begging.
 
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“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
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Posted: March 2, 2009 01:08 amTop
   
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A lot of people really can't be bothered about all the arguments skillers are putting up, and are now leaving.
Good job skillers woeh.gif
 
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Posted: March 2, 2009 05:12 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Mathsnerd18 @ March 02, 2009 12:08 pm)
A lot of people really can't be bothered about all the arguments skillers are putting up, and are now leaving.
Good job skillers woeh.gif

u

and chimp. those names u mentioned are leaving as lack of pvp and p2p, not detication.

and the last war it was set for a time in which most americans were still in school.
 
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Posted: March 3, 2009 12:23 amTop
   
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Ok, now that like 15 people have left, everybody that is stay now has to pull some extra weight. Please try to be more active guys, we can and will pull through this we just need a strong and active community.

We got dis, just be dedicated hash.png
 
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