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Posted: March 4, 2009 03:15 pm  | |||||||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | There's a culture of casual attendance in WG, as there has been for a while. Members don't take events seriously. I have thought long and hard upon this. It comes down to motivation and morale. In peoples minds, bad things are associated with certain events. KF was successful because people would associate KF with victory. KF raids did have several failures, but people don't remember that. They block that out because early on, KF ANCHORED a certain feeling in people. Similarly, raids now ANCHOR negative feelings in members. You think raid, and the pro-PVPers will think: 1. A chance to climb the ranks 2. The thrill of the kill 3. Settling clan rivalries 4. Showing skill and tactical brilliance Anti-PVPers will think: 1. Bored one minute, dead the next 2. Expensive 3. People being forceful and aggressive And that's why we have this dichotomy. You think raid, and it's either a pleasure or a pain. For too many members, it is a chore. I happen to have reasonable talent in reversing this sort of thing. So here's the plan. A clan movie is up there. A new one. We all need a reminder of how rich our heritage is. We all need to know what PKing means to WG. This will take me about 4 months, but it's an investment that pays off. Expect animation like you have never before seen from His Lordship. (Click HERE to watch the last one) ^If you haven't seen the last clan movie I made, you are missing out^ Ok that's one solution, but I'd be crazy to put all my effort into a flash movie. The movie is the motivator, but we need much more than that. It's time to start associating positive things with PVP. Small challenges. No stretching over our limits. We'll make easy fights. Less experimenting. Let's build up our confidence. That's a job for the leaders. Another thing you have to do is get into a habit of knowing your raid times. They are now the same every week. The first month or two will be difficult - you'll have to consciously remind yourself. But after a while, it becomes habit. For me, I think... "Oh OK its 5:30pm on Sunday. Time to get on for the Aussie raid in half an hour." This is something you should aim for yourselves. It will solidify your attendance. And of course, be constantly checking for the megaraid. *Hint hint* (Glenn/Cheyney... time to decide on this week's... we need sign-ups) And now another thing... let's follow the KF formula. Let's invite a whole bunch of friends from outside WG for a few weeks. Invite all these people... Network guys. Get to know people from other clans. It's good for clan relations, and support. Bring them along. There are heaps of PVP addicts. We'll go out with these guys for a while until WG gets pro. That's what lied behind the success of KF. We got into a habit of win after win. And people saw "KF" in the IRC or the forums, and got hyped. Attendance to raids is psychological encouragement as much as it is your ability to attend. It's not difficult to turn this clan around. We can be one of the best PVP clans out there. It's part of our history. Don't forget, this clan was part of some of the greatest wars EVER. In fact it was part of the two biggest clan wars of all time. X vs DS / LL (Our side) vs RD Not to mention we almost single-handedly brought P2P-Multi to life while DI was stuck in the mage bank. At one stage, we were the strongest p2p clan in Runescape, no kidding. Stronger than DI in multi at the height of KF in 2006. This clan has AMAZING potential. We have done great things before and there is nothing stopping us from repeating that. The faces have changed, but take it from a veteran... the spirit is alive and well. Think back on our noble warring history, and realise this clan was BORN for raiding. We are Wilderness Guardians - It is our domain to govern, as dictated by our very name. Let us reclaim that right. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 03:36 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | I'll be actif to raids when i get my elite member back!!!!!!!!!!!! But seriously, WG can go along way. The more we PVP the more respect we get, the more respect we get, the more members join, the more members join , the better we do in PVP. and we will go up and up and up and up and up where we will stay forever dominating our domain!  --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 04:07 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | Good post, glad to see things changing as well --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian.  | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 04:33 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Ansatsublade Group: Emeritus Posts: 765 Member No.: 101 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 120 | lets turn things around then.  --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 04:34 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: ``Aaron Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1055 Member No.: 149 Joined: January 21, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | About time someone said it. Thanks Elias. --------------------    | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 04:35 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: ^Dave^ Group: Ex-Member Posts: 735 Member No.: 1616 Joined: January 4, 2009 Total Events Attended: 23 | PVP = FTW!#@^$*% --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 05:21 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | Back to being emo when I die again  -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 07:03 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Ubg Fcbruges Group: Emeritus Posts: 1209 Member No.: 1373 Joined: October 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | Glad to see such a post. Change has arrived. Now let's hope this will work - but of course we don't doubt about that  Good luck with the movie Elias - good initiative  --------------------  Portfolio ~~ WG Emeritus - 20 November 2010 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 10 November 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Emeritus - 2 July 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 27 February 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Guardian - 12 December 2008 ~~ ~~ WG Trial Guardian - 30 October 2008 ~~ | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 07:56 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Ret[Keith] Group: Emeritus Posts: 2049 Member No.: 86 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 82 | Personally, I don't even think about "we'll die for sure" at raids We don't do that bad guys, honestly. we rock -------------------- Best Firemaker in WG no lie   <--- rofl1st joined WG: October 18th, 2005. Ex-WG mod, OPH winner  ^My original idea (U GOIN DOWN TWIZ)^ 189th person to get "100" firemaking Hash Unit, Tun Unit, C-Unit    | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 08:06 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 | . --------------------    | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 08:09 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | Man, KF rocked so hard. Even now almost 3 years later, whenever I see those two letters I get excited. I wish everything could go back to the way it was in 2006. The real wilderness. KF raids. WG being a dominant force in the clan world. Clans were just fun back then...now it's all about PKRIs and crap like that...*sigh*... Anyways..I hope we can get back to being a dominant pvp force some day..especially in p2p --------------------  Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 08:16 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | That was a great post. Bringing positive thought to anything will improve it and I know we are capable of doing this. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 08:38 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | wat did you say about KF /me pumps up also maybe we could do a raid with SE. could be an interesting raid. we faught well together against VR --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 08:58 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | Sounds good to me, if pvp events have a positive association then people are much more likely, and willing, to attend them. It seems like common sense, but until now our approach seems to have been centered on forcing those who do not like pvp events to attend them. If we concentrate on improving the success of the events, aswell as how the clan perceives their purpose, it will increase the attendance rates and morale of everyone. Inviting friends and raiding with allies is an effective way to make raids more successful, and make sure we see more action (although usually though some kind of leak). That was one reason I was for us getting involved in the TT vs VR conflict (except when it came to crashing their wars), it was a chance to gain a strong ally and participate in major clan battles, aswell as motivate people to participate in pvp by fighting a dishonorable clan like VR. I have a caveat though, be careful about creating a culture where the members judge the clan by its performance in the wilderness. Loyalty to WG and the community should come first, or members will start leaving (like they are doing now) when our progress in pvp stalls. --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 09:16 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Useph Group: Guest Posts: 267 Member No.: 125 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 29 | You should explain what KF is to those who don't know. I only vaguely know. -------------------- Goals 78/99  | 99/99  | 92/99  | 94/99  | 82/99  | 99/99  | 77/99  mIRC Guru  WG's #1 Pyromaniac | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 09:33 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | This topic within itself is a great morale booster. I will try my hardest to make the raids that I can, and of course, the megaraid. --------------------      | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 09:38 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Amazing post, NOW LETS GO WG! WATCH THIS, AND CHANGE BOAT TO WILDERNESS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 09:38 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 |
KF stood for Kenshln's Friends. Kenshln was WG's warlord for quite a long period of time. He also had many friends in other clans, as he got around a lot, especially Corr since he was in it at one time. So Ken would randomly decide to have a raid(KF was p2p-based) and call all of his friends to come. At first, KF was very diverse. It had WG members, Corr members, people from our allied clans, random friends, etc...and we just went out into p2p wildy and owned anyone that was out there. We usually pulled like 100+ people, despite how they were spur of the moment. Because people loved them. They were so fun and we always won. KF was soon 95% WG members, due to Ken being our warlord, but friends were still allowed and encouraged to come. We had a longstanding rivalry with RoT, but we destroyed them on a daily basis. We even battled clans like DI and DF and won. We were unstoppable in p2p. It was basically all out camaraderie and having fun. And we just happened to be total pwnage. It instilled a great atmosphere in WG. But then D-Day kinda ruined everything...although KF raids had already slowed down. They were mostly in summer 2006. -------------------- Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 09:43 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: spanthrax Group: Ex-Member Posts: 813 Member No.: 29 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 37 | personally i joined as a skiller so my first and only thought is to hell with pvp. i have not changed in the last few months, nor will i ever change. i joined wg for skilling and its community, if that is not enough to be consider'd a valuable asset to the wilderness Guardians then oh well every clan needs people who's sole job is to bolster and anchor the community, this is where i feel im best suited. i see things from the pro-pvp'ers side of the line and i understand that pvp is fun for some people, i however do not always recieve the same feeling from pro-pvp'ers seeing things from a skillers point of view. these are just some of my thoughts. with love and respect , spenser --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 09:56 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 |
Now wat was D-day?  -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 10:02 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 |
D-Day short version: Tmal and Twiz were doing an excellent job of leading WG in Lordy's absence. Lordy got jealous and on December 1st, 2006, he came back and closed the clan and reopened it an hour later. But 100+ people had already left. Class is about to start, hence the short version..lulz -------------------- Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 10:18 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 |
Lol Lordy  -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: March 4, 2009 11:48 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: DyIan Group: Emeritus Posts: 1205 Member No.: 1638 Joined: January 15, 2009 Total Events Attended: 107 | Good post and good ideas. A good future is ahead of us! --------------------   | ||||||
Posted: March 5, 2009 12:04 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 |
That is a very short version, lol. But yeah, as far as WG was concerned Dec. 2006 was the apocalypse. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: March 5, 2009 12:06 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | YOU HAVE MY SWORD --------------------   | ||||||
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