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Posted: March 28, 2009 09:29 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | Ok, don't beat yourself up too hard over it. Consider the following things: 1. CR was expected to win in the first place as I said 2. CR is one timezone, WG is three 3. There were 2 major timezone changes, with daylight savings starting in some parts of the world, and ending in others. 4. WG just got its foot in PVP, CR is pro PVP 5. We beat CR in CWA 6. For the low pull we did VERY well 7. For the first ranged fight we've had, we did VERY well 8. We lasted the entire 90 minutes 9. WG proved it can return - leaders are impressed at the return rate 10. CR flamed, we didn't. 11. We got a very supportive Emeritus count. They still look after us even though they are retired 12. The prep we did for this fight led to more recruitment and such _________________ The loss was painful, especially since it was so 1-sided for 90 minutes. The leaders knew from the first 10 that we'd be bleeding rune the whole fight. And you, the members, knew that too, but you kept going. It was admirable. You gave your rune for a lost cause and dealt with frustrated leaders... that is TRUE comradeship. I am very proud of those who attended, even though we lost. It was a win for our integrity and honour. Those who came did very well. However, I have to be practical too and look for future ways to improve. I suspect a lot of the problem was that this weekend was a timezone changing weekend, and that played a big role. I'll get to work on that, and you can all help me. --------------------  | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:31 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | 2 kills 3 deaths. We took the hits but at least we can hold our heads high and say we managed to last 90 minutes. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:34 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | Yeah, if you just look at the stats, we didn't do too bad considering.. WG + 5 allowed emeritus = 75 potential people. CR + FA's + 5 retired = 77 potential people. WG combat average: 117 CR combat average: 122 Also consider that CR does PVP PKRIs several times every week and are very experienced. I'm surprised we lasted past the first 15 minutes, much less the whole fight! Great job everyone! --------------------   Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:34 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | Good work guys. Everyone's banks might be a little less, but whatever. I lost 8 sets and had fun.  I was kind of mad at Lordy when he got this fight caus the first thing I said was, "Shit we're gonna get raped." Lol... Anyways. Not much we can do when they end with 126 + options... (42 ish) Lets just try to work on our pull. From there maybe we can do better. Go make back those banks! -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:34 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: ``Pete Group: Banned Posts: 913 Member No.: 775 Joined: June 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 49 | Good post. We did brilliantly to say we were outnumbered, we kept coming back and i'm glad everyone returned. Keep it up and go on to win the next, yes? -------------------- Mikel Arteta  Tim CahillNothing But The Best | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:35 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | 2 Kills 1 Assist 5 Deaths. We proved we can return and that we have will power. We returned for the full 90 minutes event though it was a lost cause. I'm proud of you guys, even though we lost. --------------------    | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:35 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | I'm such a dumb cunt. Never accepting wars again. Ever. My expectations are too high. -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:36 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | yeah we did well considering we were outnumbered a fair bit. --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:37 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: ``Pete Group: Banned Posts: 913 Member No.: 775 Joined: June 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 49 | On another note: I am however annoyed that most of the time it was only a select handful of people binding. I was one of them, i got sick of others not trying i had to put on pro melee and keep my robes on being sniped to mad, alteast that helped though. 4 kills - 7 deaths rune&bind sets + runes every death. -------------------- Mikel Arteta Tim CahillNothing But The Best | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:40 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 |
Gene, if I have learned anything about you, it's that you are always trying to make WG better. And you do that by having us fight clans that are way out of our league. We've ALWAYS done this. Remember when we fought Valor? We got raped, but we learned from it. We never backed down from any fight. Remember fighting DS and BK and CL? We have always been the clan to fight the tougher opponent. That's just the way it is.. -------------------- Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 09:49 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | 3 kills, 2 assists, 3 deaths. I did good considering my internet is hell today. Were working through it. Was a good experience. --------------------   | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 10:01 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 | 0 kills 9 deaths... Lost 7 rune sets and when I returned in welfare I was instantly piled, even with only ONE minute remaining.. so I didn't get to the ending options in time. CR flames.. a lot. It was frustrating but I'm surprised we lasted so long. --------------------   | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 10:28 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: oklahoma sooners Group: Ex-Member Posts: 26 Member No.: 1789 Joined: March 24, 2009 Total Events Attended: 8 | o kills 8 deaths 1 asist --------------------  What doesnt kill me can only me me stronger. | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 10:34 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | 0 kills 1 death, only got there at the very end (non-warring list, props to you guys that I came at all). --------------------  | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 10:59 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: spanthrax Group: Ex-Member Posts: 813 Member No.: 29 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 37 | uh wasnt fun but 1 kill 1 death, i broke even so im not gonna complain to much. but all i can say is your welcome gene --------------------  | ||
Posted: March 28, 2009 11:54 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mtoise Group: Ex-Member Posts: 715 Member No.: 1691 Joined: February 5, 2009 Total Events Attended: 60 | Together we'll bring them down. -------------------- "Do not believe everything that is written on the internet; for it may just be a bag of lies" - George Washington 1873 - On the long winding road to 99 slayer. 98 to 99 Slay without killing a thing. 22/28 effigy's PM me if you can assist Construction Effigy's | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 01:02 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Slayer123121 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 319 Member No.: 1753 Joined: March 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 12 | Gene dont beat yourself up we can only improve from things like this, giving us easy fights will just mean we think we're better than we actually are. Sry i couldn't stay the entire fight i stayed for 45-50 minutes in a cafe using there wireless internet but i had to leave to catch the last train home. 4kills 1 death This fight proved a couple things to me however Positive side: People are willing to return Emeritus will be there when needed (thanks alot) We we're MASSIVELY outleved and survived even tho we got tanked by everyone. Negative side: Organisation was poor (Maybe we should go back to spamming "wg on" that will aide to better the organisation Opts were poor (However we knew it wouldn't be great --------------------  | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 01:07 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | this war was awesome. btw i'm the new guy. never in my clanning career have i fought a war in pvp. so for my first time i was scared and lost rune at first. i got the hang of it but i notice two things. if you're a low lvl. tanking is your best bet. and get a fast internet connection with a core dual =P also i notice that cr had members that seemed to run forever.. i'm doing research, apparently its a technique called pooling...where you have infinite run for a pre-determined amount of time. thanks guys for letting me being part of this war. to me it seemed like we faced it and did as much as could be done. maybe next time we can do alot better =D --------------------  Goals 2011  | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 01:09 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 | I had binds and was binding every other death. I was a little late (stupid alarm clock) but came up and returned. -------------------- | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 01:16 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 |
Pools dont work in F2p anymore Its cause their binds were on game. Ours werent. They rarely used much energy for piles since their targets couldnt drag. -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 01:28 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | Oh my god, what a disastor of a fight (from personal perspective). Don't want to go through the trauma of repeating it again so i'll quote rsc:
Sorry if I appeared pissed off, I was. And not just down to that. That aside, good job everyone! Was very tough, and planned pk run-ins have never been WG's forte, especially 90 minute ones (which is too long in my opinion, especially when you can cheat the ending opts). I'm impressed with the determination people showed in getting back out there and giving it their all. We could've done with a greater positive spirit, but that'll come in time. This loss is good. It shows us that we still have a lot to improve on (which is evident both from the fight and the near-zero amount of deaths CR appeared to have). Leading was great, assertive and decisive under pressure, but our organisation was disastorous. A lot of the time WG members were wondering around like seagles in a fish market. It was an embarassing sight. How can we solve it? - Binding! is one of the main factors. We didn't have enough people in robes trying to bind. I tried a lot, but annoyingly barely any of them worked. People ran out of energy and hence lagged the entire battlefield, we need solid binds. But people complained about........ - Snipers. Yes, there were snipers. But it was still easy enough if you're quick with changing gear. Now food appears on the ground, snipers barely have an effect. The more people that have the guts to wear robes and bind (and if you can't do so without getting KOed, you need to be at drills), the less pressure it is on the select few who do hybrid and get singled out. However, another question is raised.......... - Anti-Snipers. Did we have any? If we did and they were doing a good job, we clearly need more. We had a lot of snipers around us. Instead of wondering about lost or trying helplessly to catch up, people need to snipe if they know how + are not in the main pile. We need to make sure snipers are pre-occupied to make it even safer for the hybrids. Their sniping is clearly one of the things which won the war. I'm only throwing a few points out there. Although organisation was poor (even though it was good in parts, especially the leading and falling in), it was still a very good effort from everyone and the determination and motivation is something to be proud of, good job. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 02:19 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I came home and hurried on to be like 30 minutes into it. I actually enjoyed it. I usually feel like throwing up when I do any war/raid or even to much combat training. But I was fine today. I lost 1 set of rune and when I returned it was very close to the end like less then 3 minutes to go and they attacked me before I got skulled, so on the second death I ate all my food and got to keep 3 pieces of my rune and I lol in rl when I saw that in lumby. I need to work on returning faster and knowing the better way to do that. Frankie helped me and thanks. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 02:56 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 | 0 kills 4 deaths. By the time I arrived we were outnumbered 5 to 1 on the battlefield. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 03:54 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I was so proud with the fact that we made the whole 90 minutes. The fight may not have gone our way but the fact that we just kept going lifted my spirits. We will improve in PvP run-ins. That was our first REAL one and things will only go up from here. I personally am pissed off with the way I performed, next time will be redemption. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||
Posted: March 29, 2009 04:24 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | I am so sad I couldn't make it. Seeing the text messages on my phone made me sad, especially when I knew it was going to be a tough fight. I am happy though to see that WG made it 90 minutes, people are returning, and that we got something good out of this. --------------------      | ||
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