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Posted: April 2, 2009 03:32 pm  | |||||||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | Firstly, if this poll remains at the top of the IAs, it might overpower the other MAJOR announcement - Follow-Up Game which is very important, so don't overlook it because this topic is more popular. Anyway, how is 105 working out? We're half way through the trial period. We did enforce the application reqs, but leaders did not force training. Even though we didn't force training, only one member is below reqs. We won't really worry about it because we know that member works hard for WG. Its only a short matter of time. But apart from that, how is it going? We went up 2 combat levels, but I KNOW, that apps have slowed down a little in comparison to what they have been before under 100+, when we were recruiting just as strong. Vote. I won't give my opinion so as to not bias the poll. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 03:34 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: ``Pete Group: Banned Posts: 913 Member No.: 775 Joined: June 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 49 | *inserts + 110 option in poll* Aye. -------------------- Mikel Arteta  Tim CahillNothing But The Best | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 03:42 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 | I personally like the 105+ because when they apply, they will have their fair share of combat experience, so hopefully we won't have another skillers vs. war'ers debate. Also, since they took longer to get to 105 combat, they will have probably seen more of the clan world than those at 100 combat. Just my idea.  --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 03:48 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | Short version: no comment. This is purely IMO, but as a skiller I've completely given up on WG. It's been made perfectly clear we're minor annoyances and complaining about it will only make us noisy minor annoyances. So I really don't have an opinion anymore, do whatever you want.  PS: This might change after the semester when I have more time to spend online. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 04:01 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | I don't like it, I would rather have the members than the levels. Many of them seem like good people for WG but they can't join because of the reqs and over time people tend to lose interest. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 04:06 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Hyperion Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1636 Member No.: 978 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141 | Your two options sucked. But i went with 105+ is better. With the person i've recruited from zybez, he didn't really seem to mind getting those extra 5 levels from 100. If he can do it, anyone can. --------------------    Dragon boots:29 Whips:2 | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 05:06 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Kwaichi Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1827 Member No.: 65 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 119 | i didnt wanted the change, but it happend now and we still have new applycants... no reason why to change it back --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 05:55 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | No matter what the reqs are, we seem to be a clan who likes its levels high (from a warring perspective). If someone level 100 joins, they'll be an odd one out and feel pressured to train anyway. If they don't train, they'll be asked to train repeatedly as always happens. At least with a 105 req, there's less pressure for them to train. I found training to be in WG pretty enjoyable, because i was looking forward to getting in. It was a good inscentive to join and the more I trained, the more i was eager to get in. If someone truly wants to be in WG, they'll gain those 5 extra levels. If they give up they clearly don't have much determination to be in. What with wg_lobby and public events, people can easily get involved with the community before even joining. I'd say keep it at 105. Times have change a LOT since the first times we started thinking of changing it years ago, and our average is about 7 levels higher than what it was then. People don't need to be a guardian to be a part of the community. We're supposed to reach out to those who want to join. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 06:00 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Ubg Fcbruges Group: Emeritus Posts: 1209 Member No.: 1373 Joined: October 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | 105 is good, not too low and not too high. I should stick with it --------------------  Portfolio ~~ WG Emeritus - 20 November 2010 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 10 November 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Emeritus - 2 July 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 27 February 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Guardian - 12 December 2008 ~~ ~~ WG Trial Guardian - 30 October 2008 ~~ | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 06:32 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | THIS IS LIKE PRESIDENT VOTING, I WONT TELL YOU WHAT I VOTED FOR! -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 06:41 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | I see no reason to change the requirements back, I think 105 is working out perfectly. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 06:55 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | 105+ is good. I prefer having the option to attack everyone. It shows they are of more use against higher levels in low level wild. --------------------    | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 07:19 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | You know I've always been an advocate of level 100 reqs. Btw, our combat average didn't go up because of the requirement change, it's because all of the low levels were kicked out for various reasons *cough conspiracy cough* --------------------   Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 08:35 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | i think our heavy recruiting has balanced out and we are getting up our combat levels as you said, but we will have to see if it will be worth it at the PKRI on sunday. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 08:53 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | The thing with the requirements at 105 and recruiting is, for people who are new to the clan world, that I try recruiting into WG, it is hard for them to get a piece of WG and take the bite. There have been a few people who I have asked to join my clan even though they were a lower level, and they didn't want to go to the site (and didn't have IRC) if they didn't have the requirements. From what I have heard, WG has been about the numbers for a long period of time. It is hard to get more numbers with higher requirements. Just my opinion... I know not many agree with it. --------------------      | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 10:34 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 |
We're in a minority. Just because I have been working my ass off for recruitment, people think we're doing fine. I am going to cut back at let the clan recruit itself, and then we'll see. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: April 2, 2009 11:39 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Ex-Member Posts: 201 Member No.: 1646 Joined: January 18, 2009 Total Events Attended: 6 |
++ I voted for 100. Honestly I'd rather have nice people and a potential good friend and member in here even if it means taking someone with a couple less levels. -------------------- RSC Moderator  Originally Joined WG August 19, 2005 | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 12:33 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: ``Aaron Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1055 Member No.: 149 Joined: January 21, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | Uh I didn't really care. But I voted as 105+ because it seemed to be that the members joining had more knowledge than the ones prior to the switch. Also yes, Lordy is keeping the clan afloat. --------------------    | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 01:16 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Slayer123121 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 319 Member No.: 1753 Joined: March 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 12 | I'd personally say 110+ is the way to go and LEAVE IT AT THAT, as 105+ is EASY with summoning, or at least 105+ F2P CMB. Better lvl's=better average lvls=USUALLY more experience. I like 105 more than 100 though, never drop that low again pl0x. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 01:26 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Tricksy Group: Emeritus Posts: 645 Member No.: 77 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 18 | 110 please --------------------  Edwarrior317 - 102 Combat - Perm Banned Wilderness Guardian Moderator: 19th April - 3rd December, 2007 | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 01:28 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 |
1. The reqs are 105 f2p. Summoning has nothing to do with it. 2. We were a top 15 F2P and top 5 P2P clan when we were 100+...as a 105+ clan? We haven't done shit. We're not even getting better... -------------------- Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 01:45 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
+1 -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 01:52 am | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 |
Actually, I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the comments. Have we gotten any better overall? I really don't think so. Our average combat level went up by one level. That is with training and new people at 105. This poll is really to early to truly know if the 105 is any good. I think the 100 combat people bring a certain amount of fun and excitement to the clan. They are usually just excited to be doing things. They complain less about crappy drops. Even though they require more help, it is how deeper friendships can develop and grow. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 02:01 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Slayer123121 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 319 Member No.: 1753 Joined: March 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 12 |
Don't lecture me on the History of Wg Colin honestly iv'e been around long enough to know it myself..... I voiced my opinion you don't have to agree with it, but it's my opinion we ain't ever gonna get to be were we could be with low Req's that's why the top clans Req's are all high. Let's not forget having req's at 100 is all well and good but the fact is low lvl's=easy ko's. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: April 3, 2009 02:53 am | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Hyperion Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1636 Member No.: 978 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141 |
1)Get your points correct. Then rant. 105 F2P 2)As long as they return -------------------- Dragon boots:29 Whips:2 | ||||||
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