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Posted: May 22, 2009 12:43 pm  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540    | The idea of an IRC Operator has been suggested many times by members over the past few months. The essential idea is that an IRC Operator would be Operator in #WG to invite people into the channel or set up a key if RobbieBot happened to go offline. We have noticed that at the moment there are no operators in the IRC in the Aussie Timezone (apart from His_Lordship, who due to real-life commitments cannot always be in the IRC). So the proposition is: Make Theevildead2 an IRC Operator, op ONLY in #WG. He is experienced with IRC, as well as being ex-council, ex-moderator and an ex-skills leader, among other things. We all know that he would not abuse his power... except maybe on me  .However most importantly- he is from New Zealand, from the Aussie Timezone. IMPORTANT: His forum access will not change, he will remain as Elite Guardian and have no staff access, no access to Level three, etc. Please vote carefully. Theevildead2 cannot vote for himself. ~George  --------------------    | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 01:17 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | Everyone quit RS and buy WoW. Problem solved. # --------------------  | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 02:00 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | I totally support this. He's best suited for the job because he knows the system. He's in the timezone with the least amount of staff (just me and Gene at the moment). --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 03:00 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1483 Member No.: 13 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 103 |
What he said. But seriously, yes. He has the experience and the trust (I Hope) and we all know he would do well if we've been here long enough. JC would make an excellent non-staff op. Only problem is it might confuse newer people who assume he is council, but thats not a big deal. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 04:15 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | 3 No votes, but no one will post why...? -------------------- | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 04:35 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Groedius Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1556 Member No.: 99 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 256 | No because you could just give Invite exception to current staff members - half ops and i am sure we have enough people to cover all time zones so there is no need for this. I could also give all the other half's the simple bot which invites voiced people so is this really necessary and its not like JC can cover every single time zone and its not like Robbiebot is died every other day or something. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 05:10 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Slayer123121 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 319 Member No.: 1753 Joined: March 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 12 |
I would bother to put why, but Andrew has summed it up. Colonel is half op and a aussie i belive? just put him as a Op? Makes no sense to give access to others when it's not really needed.  --------------------  | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 07:31 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I voted yes. However, even with JC having op, I think that our current staff could step up to be op when no one else is on or if they are afk. What is the big deal with this. I think our staff has proven many times their great service to us. Besides you know if anyone abuses the power it is like grade school and we tattle on you. hehe Rachy  --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 07:43 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sgtswordfish Group: Guest Posts: 1737 Member No.: 1758 Joined: March 9, 2009 Total Events Attended: 64 | yes. he fits the task at hand. the only thing i'm curious about is to see him perform =D go for it --------------------  Goals 2011  | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 07:55 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Absolutely, this is the only clear solution to the problem. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 08:05 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | I would say no on this matter. Don't take me the wrong way, I like Evil a lot. He is experienced at what he does, and he does fit the timezone, but regardless of all of that, if you do not hold a position of influence onto the clan, such as Event Leader, Raid Leader or Council, then you should not have OP in the IRC channel. If it is really a technical problem, then I believe an alternate solution would be better. As previous people on this topic have stated, halfops & so on could be substituted instead. The matter of bias is also at hand, unless of course you make a separate rank for Evil, questions will start to arise about why only one of the Elite Guardians is an IRC Operator. ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 10:47 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 |
I'm flattered, really I am, but the fact is I just don't know the IRC well enough. If something did happen, and I had to fix it, or at least provide an alternate method of getting in #WG I wouldn't know what to do. I am more than willing to learn. But remember, I'm still in support of this. I mean, I am the other ranked Aussie person in the IRC and I have no problem with it at all. He's perfect for it. Yes it seems a bit biased, but think about how he's already got the experience with it - not many people do. He's also in a timezone where there really aren't many OPs or HOPs in there. If anything, we should at least test it out. If it really doesn't seem necessary after a week or two, take it away from him. If it actually is doing something beneficial, let him keep it. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 10:55 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | DZ was promoted directly to Raid Leader. It wasn't thought of as bias because we all knew he could do the job. It's the same situation here. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 11:15 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | I vote yes. If it doesn't work out we can always change back. JC is a great guy and probably well qualified to handle this. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 11:44 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Ranma344 Group: Emeritus Posts: 759 Member No.: 78 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | Not that the activity levels of IRC ops will change at all.. I voted yes... --------------------  R.I.P. Lucy ! | ||||
Posted: May 22, 2009 11:57 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Ranma344 Group: Emeritus Posts: 759 Member No.: 78 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | double post for reply 10000 -------------------- R.I.P. Lucy ! | ||||
Posted: May 23, 2009 01:11 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: ``Aaron Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1055 Member No.: 149 Joined: January 21, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | No, I <3 JC I really do. JC wasn't why I voted no. We have what? 10 terts + Admin? How about whenver someone leaves they op a tert, with our numbers that we have in terts+ there should ALWAYS be someone with IRC power on. And how would opping JC solve the problem? What if he isn't on? Ive been on before when almost no one was on and neither was JC. This would not solve anything. Promoting someone to solve a problem is pointless, Buraeuacracies don't work and are disorganized. The elected admin just need to be as active as they tell us to be.(sorry if that sounded like a bait it really wasn't im just angry) --------------------    | ||||
Posted: May 23, 2009 03:20 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Hyperion Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1636 Member No.: 978 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 141 | Or I could just get Bindbot hosted 24/7. Problem solved. Note to all: I did not vote on this as access on an irc channel means nothing to any one in real life. --------------------    Dragon boots:29 Whips:2 | ||||
Posted: May 23, 2009 08:26 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | I voted no also. Dont get me wrong, I love JC like a brother. But I dont see why none of the halfops cannot step up. There is normally someone there. I dont think that someone who doesnt hold a major position in the clan, should be given op. Robbiebot rarely goes down. And when he does, people can wait. Its not that hard. Im sure they can talk more in the lobby. My 2 cents. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: May 23, 2009 11:37 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Just like how Andrew and Slayer said, there are halfops available so don't make a unnecessary change. And it isn't only the aussie timezone, when i get home from school, there really is no council on for like 2 hours. George you are, but you end up dc'ing and never coming back. Bto comes, but goes afk cause he's so busy?!# And then we have to wait for Glenn, which might change because his school is over now. I'm saying its not just the aussie timezone, theres a lot of times where there arent ops and we have to rely of Sooth to give somebody op to invite people when robbie goes down. -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||
Posted: May 24, 2009 08:45 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | At least Sooth is there at that time. Majority rules. Access set. ~George -------------------- | ||||
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