This.
While it may be "funny" for you to be inactive. It's really not. (New staff excepted)
 
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Kyle is very good council. I agree some have reasons.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

Yes. But not a clan activity. BUt rather a staff activity rant.
 
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Yes. But not a clan activity. BUt rather a staff activity rant.

Ooo burn.

Everyone knows how hard staff apparently is, but the truth is, 90% of you actually don't. I'm balancing about 4 things as it is, but still manage to at least do my forum/IRC job. Sure I might not be as RS active as some people, but the truth is, you don't NEED me to make events. Check the non-PVP events forum, ANYONE can make a non-PVP event.

I don't see any member made/ran events, all it takes is, 2-3 members to make an event and there's 2-3 events a week, and if attendance is taken I can go in and update it, as well as moderating the forums, and all the other stuff I do on the side. RS activity is a tiny portion of what Event Leaders do. I know I speak for David as well (Who has just started University), but we Event Leaders spend most of our time doing forum work, rather than playing the game, because we don't have time to do both and have to prioritise.

We've just got 2 new Raid Leaders who have already filled out our weekend with PVP events, so I don't know what the problem with PVP activity is.

Council are as active as always, maybe they don't play the game as much, but they're on forums daily, IRC almost daily.

I'll be honest, Event Leaders are basically glorified Moderators, any member can step up and do our in game work such as creating and leading events, and so far I've only ever seen one member do that, and that's Dylan (HeavenlyBolt). It's what we do behind the scenes that members don't seem to care about, who do you think is updating your attendance? Who is keeping the forums clean? That'd be us.
 
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I clearly state in my post that I could never truly understand all that you give. I am in no way putting any one down for all the work that they do. I actually appreciate and have gratitude for it.

Are you forgetting Ludo Slayer? In August he did so many events. I sometimes do a few. But sometimes it is more the push to get the staff to have the events that are actually scheduled on time. I've worked my real life schedule around coming to events to only come on and the person to lead isn't on or they changed the time. I see the disappointment in the new trials and guardians when this happens. Sometimes you have to look beyond your own personal needs. Remember that as a member, we have to have 8 attend our event or we do not get attendance.

So to you any one applying for council does not need to be active? Basically that is what you're trying to tell me.

I disagree totally with this statement. An active council means an active clan. When the leaders go into a slumpy activity, we see many issues come into the clan that would otherwise not be here. I remember Stevepants being extremely active council, Glennfase was also very active til his rl issues pulled him away. But Glenn knew he was to inactive to give WG the required time. This is the difference.

I'm sure our raid leaders will help us by planning events. If we expect and want the members to come to things, it needs to be the staff being active too. It is a proven fact so many times in WG that active leaders equals active clan. Talk to Gene and see if he agrees with this statement. The leaders are what should be motivating the clan.

I actually miss George being on with us even if it is just for tears. It's not cause I can't do the events with out him, but that he is my friend and I would rather do them with him. I would think you could understand this. You have been on both sides as a leader and as a clan member.

Rachy
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

Council =/= Moderators, if you were in WG of '05/'06, you would know we had our council and we had moderators, we didn't even have Raid Leaders. Moderators do exactly what their name implies, they moderate, keep the boards clean, and other MOD CP stuff. The council are admin, they make decisions that effect the clan, they set the rules, process applications, and other ADMIN CP stuff. Maybe we do need Moderators instead of Event Leaders.

August? You realise it's now October? Like I said before, you don't need me to lead events, I'm not a babysitter. I've seen Dylan mass up a weekly ToG event.

Could you show me a post that says you need 8 members to attend or you don't get attendance? I know I've given attendance for events run by members with <8 members. Also, if you're not getting 8 members to your events, I don't think that's completely a Staff inactivity problem do you?

I'm not saying a council doesn't need to be active. But there is simply not enough time in the day for Council to do everything WG asks of them as well as their RL stuff and still be able to play the game. They are FORCED to prioritise, and I think they make the right choice by choosing to be Forum/IRC active instead of getting 99 Slayer. What would you rather have? Working forums or 4 council members with all 99 stats? Cos I'll tell you right now, in WG, it's impossible to have both.
 
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I might be being extremely dense but that doesn't make alot of sense to me, could you reword please?

I'm saying any member can do the in game aspect of an Event Leader, that is, create and lead events, but that is a small part of what I do. Which is why I'm about to go suggest that Event Leaders be renamed to Moderators, and that a push for members to create their own events be discussed.

Edit: Executive decision, from now on, any pre arranged event (i.e one that has a topic beforehand) will receive attendance, at the discretion of the Staff.
 
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I usually have no trouble getting the 8 people but I know for some it is harder.

This post is not just about this week. Anyone can be inactive for even a few weeks. All I'm asking for is more staff activity. No where did I say you can't have rl issues or be busy or any of that. Just if you are staff you need to be active to get the clan to be more active.

I was trying to motivate staff but instead it ended up me defending my position about what I expect from Owen.

Rachy
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

George you took the defensive. I was at Tears with you one of those weeks. No one is expecting you to not have real life commitments.

I was not singling any one out. I am just trying to say that staff sets the pace for activity.

If you really feel I am that far off with my thread then delete it . . . I wasn't trying to be critical of anyone.

Rachy
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~

This is so true. This only backs up my thoughts on "staff being active bringing better activity to the clan."


 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~