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 Changes to gear requirements
Posted: December 14, 2009 01:54 amTop
   


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The current requirements are:

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Teamcape 9 - 20
Amulet of Glory - 10
Shark - 300
Anchovy Pizzas - 300
Spirit Terrorbird Pouches - 100
Leather Boots - 30
Amulets of Power - 30
Saradomin Brews - 30
Super Restore Potion - 20
Prayer Potion - 30
Water Runes - 3k
Nature Runes - 2k
Earth Runes - 3k
Red Chinchompas - 300
Full Rune (kite and granite interchangeable) + Scimitar - 10 (not as many plates required)
Helm of Nietiznot - 5
Dragon Dagger (p++) OR D Scim - 5
Dragon Spear - 3 (optional, but highly recommended)
Superset - 20
Rune Gloves (Recipe for Disaster required) - 10
Games Necklace - 20


With the choice of either mage and/or range. I instead recommend mage be required and people can choose to also have range. Along with that the current gear reqs be changed to:
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Teamcape 9 - 20
Amulet of Glory - 10
Shark - 300
Anchovy Pizzas - 300
Spirit Terrorbird Pouches - [color=red]50[/color]
Leather Boots - 30
Amulets of Power - 30
Saradomin Brews - 30
Super Restore Potion - 20
Prayer Potion - 30
Water Runes - 3k
Nature Runes - 2k
Earth Runes - 3k
Red Chinchompas - 300
Full Rune (kite and granite interchangeable) + Scimitar - 10 (not as many plates required)
Helm of Nietiznot - 5
Dragon Dagger (p++) OR D Scim - 5
Dragon Spear - 3 (optional, but highly recommended)
Superset - 20
Rune Gloves (Recipe for Disaster required) - 10
Games Necklace - 20


And for the new required mage:
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Full Mystic OR Splitbark Mage Armour - [color=red]10[/color]
Ancient Staff - [color=red]10[/color]
Death Runes - 1k
Blood Runes - 1k
Water Runes - Additional 3k on top of amount required for all members (6k in total)
Air Runes - 3k
any f2p staff - 10
Wizard Top - 10
[s]Wizard Hat - 10[/s]
[color=red]Monk bottom OR uncharged fog bottom - 10[/color]


 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:03 amTop
   


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Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:04 amTop
   


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QUOTE   WG_KR
December 14, 2009 02:03 am

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.


The current requirements say
QUOTE   His Lordship
July 29, 2009 03:38 am


From the three fighting styles, EVERYONE must have tank gear (ie. Melee). You also MUST hybrid, so pick one or both of the two remaining styles.


Two remaining styles being mage or range.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:05 amTop
   


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QUOTE   WG_KR @ December 13, 2009 09:03 pm)

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.

But do the people who would be worthless as magers (i.e. no Ancients or very low Mage) need Mage gear?

I have no issue in buying it since I already have it all but for future members it could be changed around.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:08 amTop
   


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QUOTE   Sxe Asher @ December 13, 2009 10:05 pm)

QUOTE   WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:03 pm

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.

But do the people who would be worthless as magers (i.e. no Ancients or very low Mage) need Mage gear?

I have no issue in buying it since I already have it all but for future members it could be changed around.

What's with everyone in WG calling themselves worthless?

If you're low mage, train.
If you're low combat, train.

We can't have people with such low stats that they can't even do the fundamentals of pking, which in this case is freezing them.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:13 amTop
   
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U need 82 mage for blitz, its fucking easy...
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:14 amTop
   


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QUOTE   Leecable @ December 14, 2009 02:13 am)

U need 82 mage for blitz, its fucking easy...

If Lee can do it so can you! thumbsup.gif
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:18 amTop
   
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QUOTE   WG_KR @ December 13, 2009 09:08 pm)

QUOTE   Sxe Asher
December 13, 2009 10:05 pm

               
             
QUOTE  WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:03 pm

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.

But do the people who would be worthless as magers (i.e. no Ancients or very low Mage) need Mage gear?

I have no issue in buying it since I already have it all but for future members it could be changed around.

What's with everyone in WG calling themselves worthless?

If you're low mage, train.
If you're low combat, train.

We can't have people with such low stats that they can't even do the fundamentals of pking, which in this case is freezing them.

Not everyone has the money to train mage. It's expensive as shit.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:20 amTop
   


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QUOTE   Planolocal @ December 14, 2009 02:18 am)

QUOTE   WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:08 pm

               
             
QUOTE  Sxe Asher
December 13, 2009 10:05 pm

               
             
QUOTE  WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:03 pm

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.

But do the people who would be worthless as magers (i.e. no Ancients or very low Mage) need Mage gear?

I have no issue in buying it since I already have it all but for future members it could be changed around.

What's with everyone in WG calling themselves worthless?

If you're low mage, train.
If you're low combat, train.

We can't have people with such low stats that they can't even do the fundamentals of pking, which in this case is freezing them.

Not everyone has the money to train mage. It's expensive as shit.

Link

Free magic exp guide. Also, Soul Wars, Pest Control, making your own runes
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:26 amTop
   
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QUOTE   WG_KR @ December 13, 2009 09:08 pm)

QUOTE   Sxe Asher
December 13, 2009 10:05 pm

               
             
QUOTE  WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:03 pm

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.

But do the people who would be worthless as magers (i.e. no Ancients or very low Mage) need Mage gear?

I have no issue in buying it since I already have it all but for future members it could be changed around.

What's with everyone in WG calling themselves worthless?

If you're low mage, train.
If you're low combat, train.

We can't have people with such low stats that they can't even do the fundamentals of pking, which in this case is freezing them.

Remember our level requirements. If there is such an issue then raise them.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 03:27 amTop
   
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I would mage if it is needed. Look at my combat level.

Combat levels are nothing. Grow some balls and die. You can't always survive.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 03:37 amTop
   


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QUOTE   Quikdrawjoe @ December 13, 2009 09:20 pm)

QUOTE   Planolocal
December 14, 2009 02:18 am

               
             
QUOTE  WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:08 pm

               
             
QUOTE  Sxe Asher
December 13, 2009 10:05 pm

               
             
QUOTE  WG_KR
December 13, 2009 09:03 pm

Everyone needs mage sets.
We didn't have any mages when we fought TNG and they were running free.

But do the people who would be worthless as magers (i.e. no Ancients or very low Mage) need Mage gear?

I have no issue in buying it since I already have it all but for future members it could be changed around.

What's with everyone in WG calling themselves worthless?

If you're low mage, train.
If you're low combat, train.

We can't have people with such low stats that they can't even do the fundamentals of pking, which in this case is freezing them.

Not everyone has the money to train mage. It's expensive as shit.

Link

Free magic exp guide. Also, Soul Wars, Pest Control, making your own runes

25k at max per hour is slow as hell, even for f2p.

you can get 80k/h from enchanting at MTA and bryan told me he had like 15M in a week (around 25M with price adjusting) if you use the other 3 rooms after you have your desired mage lvl.

for range theres yaks, aviansies, fire giants

for melee theres AZ, monkeys, slayer, etc.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 05:02 amTop
   
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Unreachable compromise is unreachable.

The gear debate is going to go on forever. I believe the reqs should be changed, or better yet abolished completely, but stopped trying to argue the point long ago.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 06:29 amTop
   
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QUOTE   Quikdrawjoe @ December 13, 2009 09:14 pm)

QUOTE   Leecable
December 14, 2009 02:13 am

U need 82 mage for blitz, its fucking easy...

If Lee can do it so can you! thumbsup.gif

I got lee 94 mage#
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 07:06 amTop
   
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I think everyone with 82 mage should have mage sets true
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 01:36 pmTop
   
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Well you can force people to have mage sets ludo it does not mean that they are going to use them. And today I am going to restock to 25 f2p and p2p sets once again lol. To be honest i really do not think the gear requirements are that much at all ... Stokenut said we want to be a top 10 clan. Those guys have gear reqs of like say 100 + rune sets and alot of p2p sets too. We are only asking for a fraction of that and from what ive seen in other events and heard in the IRC WG is not a poor clan.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 02:01 pmTop
   
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QUOTE   Groedius @ December 14, 2009 08:36 am)

Well you can force people to have mage sets ludo it does not mean that they are going to use them. And today I am going to restock to 25 f2p and p2p sets once again lol. To be honest i really do not think the gear requirements are that much at all ... Stokenut said we want to be a top 10 clan. Those guys have gear reqs of like say 100 + rune sets and alot of p2p sets too. We are only asking for a fraction of that and from what ive seen in other events and heard in the IRC WG is not a poor clan.

Lies, evens VR's reqs are only 30 f2p sets. Which is fuck all..even less than our current gear req price.

 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 04:30 pmTop
   


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QUOTE   Leecable @ December 14, 2009 02:01 pm)

QUOTE   Groedius
December 14, 2009 08:36 am

Well you can force people to have mage sets ludo it does not mean that they are going to use them. And today I am going to restock to 25 f2p and p2p sets once again lol. To be honest i really do not think the gear requirements are that much at all ... Stokenut said we want to be a top 10 clan. Those guys have gear reqs of like say 100 + rune sets and alot of p2p sets too. We are only asking for a fraction of that and from what ive seen in other events and heard in the IRC WG is not a poor clan.

Lies, evens VR's reqs are only 30 f2p sets. Which is fuck all..even less than our current gear req price.

Cool I have enough sets to join VR bye noobs

At least people will have the sets instead of going oh hey range sets are cheaper and buying them instead of mage. The changes I recommended still keep what people need stocked and reduce the stuff they don't. 100 terrorbirds, maybe when we start going deep all the time increase them or people will stock em because they need em and want to come on raids.

Groe, stop posting 100 sets unless you can screenshot a clan that has reqs that high. When you have a sensible argument post again.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 05:56 pmTop
   
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instead of having people specialized in everything to have a few that specialize in a few tasks.

 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 07:42 pmTop
   
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QUOTE   Quikdrawjoe @ December 14, 2009 05:30 pm)

Groe, stop posting 100 sets unless you can screenshot a clan that has reqs that high. When you have a sensible argument post again.

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Posted: December 14, 2009 08:00 pmTop
   


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I think this clan needs required gear sets but maybe under these rules:

If you have 80+ Ranged you need Range sets
If you have 82+ Mage you need Mage sets (does not include Binds)
Everyone needs Melee sets, Bind sets (Rune, Robes, Staff).

That should solve the problems because if you are below the range and mage requirement, you won't be that useful as either.
 
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QUOTE   Sxe Asher @ December 14, 2009 03:00 pm)

I think this clan needs required gear sets but maybe under these rules:

If you have 80+ Ranged you need Range sets
If you have 82+ Mage you need Mage sets (does not include Binds)
Everyone needs Melee sets, Bind sets (Rune, Robes, Staff).

That should solve the problems because if you are below the range and mage requirement, you won't be that useful as either.

80 range is really low. Try 90+
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 08:14 pmTop
   


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QUOTE   Chimp Y @ December 14, 2009 03:06 pm)

QUOTE   Sxe Asher
December 14, 2009 03:00 pm

I think this clan needs required gear sets but maybe under these rules:

If you have 80+ Ranged you need Range sets
If you have 82+ Mage you need Mage sets (does not include Binds)
Everyone needs Melee sets, Bind sets (Rune, Robes, Staff).

That should solve the problems because if you are below the range and mage requirement, you won't be that useful as either.

80 range is really low. Try 90+

Yeah I realize that but you can still do some nice damage with Diamond (e) with 80 Ranged.

And if we're tanking someone (especially in F2P) who has Melee Protect, Melee is basically useless (or less useful I should say) when compared with how well Ranged would hit.
 
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Posted: December 14, 2009 08:24 pmTop
   
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QUOTE   Sxe Asher @ December 14, 2009 09:00 pm)

I think this clan needs required gear sets but maybe under these rules:

If you have 80+ Ranged you need Range sets
If you have 82+ Mage you need Mage sets (does not include Binds)
Everyone needs Melee sets, Bind sets (Rune, Robes, Staff).

That should solve the problems because if you are below the range and mage requirement, you won't be that useful as either.

^ FUCKING GOOD IDEA. I support this 100%.

(This is because my mage and range are both 55)

Really, the only thing I'll be doing much else of besides meleeing is binding, so yeah, do this.
 
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Posted: December 15, 2009 12:48 amTop
   


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I think mages are necessary. If more people mage, it makes it easier on everyone. They cannot target everyone. If only a few mage, those few become an immediate target.
 
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