I think we should keep the requirements the same, as well. But we should change the requirements for full membership to 105 F2P. This would keep new memebrs flowing in, but those that are active the incentive to train.

I disagree, this would cause the clans we go to war to look at our memberlist and go no way, you're much stronger than us. There is no way we could win against you... Therefore we are only able to war clans way above our level.

This isn't really that big of a problem. Every war we've schedules pretty much has happen. I haven't seen a cancellation in awhile.

I disagree, council is a possion of authority and respect, if 13 people have it, and there is 60 people in the clan. It isn't that special.. People listen less to council, and they have less authority cause of it.

A 3 or 4 person council for a group of 100, is fine. As long as they spend an hour or so on forums every other day.

Everything else Robbie, I pretty much agree with more or less. For a person who doesn't play RS very much anymore, you still keep very much in touch with what's going on in WG. =)
 
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What do you mean undermined ourselves in terms of raid requirements? We want higher levels because we want to be more successful in the wilderness. We have the strictest gear reqs, and some of the best and most honorable pvp gear in the clan world. That is nothing to be ashamed of, we should be proud. And I'm sorry but ARPKing is dead...there's nobody to protect anymore...no body skills in the wildy unless they have brawlers, and they usually use those in single combat zones...so pretty hard to help. We still don't kill skillers or non-combatants...so I don't know how we're "slipping" away from ARPKing. And Community only goes so far, if you're clan sucks at warrring, there will be an obvious clash of personalities between the serious PvPers, and the hippies. And more numbers doesn't mean less stressful by any means, probably more stressful, especially for leadership. Also if we have a big memberlist, we will be expected to fight top clans, we can't compete with them if 100 of us are just inactives that are allowed to stay because we just all want to be fraaaands and hug, and with the insanely low levels (was that 95+ someone said ) we would get demolished. Show me a clan NOWADAYS (Could give 2 shits about 2006) that has 95+ reqs that are successful. I'll help, none.

And compared to other clans, you really have no idea how laid back we are. Other clans go pking up to 5-7 times a week, with upwards of 2 wars a week. That is a bit much for my liking even, but it goes to show how easy we really have it here. Casualness gets you nowhere in the clan world, all the good clans are the clans that take clanning seriously, but still have a good time doing. We can be the same.

There is a big difference between the small wars and big wars. Small matched opts wars are obviously not that big, but PKRI's are. And the more wars we have, the more practice we get, the better we get. Which I explained in my first post, will lead to more members.

I think we could use 1-2 more council members, maybe an app manager or two, but we don't really need any more I don't think.

I'd say we do the same thing every year too, we start to get on a good warring track, then it always gets derailed by people that don't really understand clanning and just want to focus on community etc, when combat lies at the heart of the community.
 
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You're scared of change too, just a different change than I. And if people's lives are busier, and they can't devote time to the clan, they're hurting more than helping it. Inactives make us pull low, which makes us slump.

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Chimpy is spot on tbh.

More we war, better we become, and then more people see this, and then join us. So not only do we have an active ML. We know we can insta pull alot, which then in turn makes us recruit more, because I know, I can call a mandatory, and have 30 people there, at any time of day.
 
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Wars: I've been out of RS for awhile, but I agree with this as well. It seems like you guys do wars really really often now, so there's nothing special about them. Wars are a big deal and everyone should be psyched for them; if that means cutting back to once a month why not? Who cares if the other big bad clans make fun of you, family comes first.
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This is spot on. This is what makes us different from other clans.

We don't -have- to war other clans. We don't need to be bullied around like a child. We are our own clan, and nothing some other bunch of kids can do to change it - I'd like to see them try!
The worst that other clans can do is attempt to spy on us and kill us when we are out in the wilderness, and how sad is that. Plus, its not hard to protect against, if we try.


Overall, I'm quite happy with how this turned out.

-Robbie




 
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Also proved my point completely. Emeritus. Should have no say in CURRENT clan matters, because simply, they're not part of the current activity. They live in the past, and everytime one posts on a topic, saying 'Oh I think this is a bad idea, because back in 1941, in the 2nd world war, WG didnt run like this' YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THE CLAN NEEDS AT THE MINUTE. Back in the day, yea things were good. We had a 120 man ML. We could pull 80 people to wars. And back then, we had regular raids/wars. And recruitment was soaring. I dont think the clan world has changed at all. I think the people in it, are still living in the past.

 
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This.

It really shouldn't be. If you want to be in a clan to be in a powerhouse, WG will not be there. Hate to admit it, but it will not happen unless everyone puts effort into the cause. Right now, if you change requirements or war more, that will not spur more people into being active within the community and recruiting people. If you say raising requirements will improve recruitment directly then lets do it, but I do not see it happening, at all.

I have the feeling that some people overlook my posts. Maybe if you posted some feedback on my ideas that we need to forget about changing something about the clan and focus on changing something about ourselves, then we can actually get something done. As of late, all of the problems that have come from this clan are problems with our current members. Let's improve what we have here before we get more people that will have to improve, because everyone has room to improve.

Let's flame our family members, not recruit like we should, not know enough about warring or raiding like we should; notice things that we can improve on as a group, together. Just because someone does not want to train their combat does not mean that they do not want to train their knowledge. Keep all of this in mind.
 
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This.

It really shouldn't be. If you want to be in a clan to be in a powerhouse, WG will not be there. Hate to admit it, but it will not happen unless everyone puts effort into the cause. Right now, if you change requirements or war more, that will not spur more people into being active within the community and recruiting people. If you say raising requirements will improve recruitment directly then lets do it, but I do not see it happening, at all.

I have the feeling that some people overlook my posts. Maybe if you posted some feedback on my ideas that we need to forget about changing something about the clan and focus on changing something about ourselves, then we can actually get something done. As of late, all of the problems that have come from this clan are problems with our current members. Let's improve what we have here before we get more people that will have to improve, because everyone has room to improve.

Let's flame our family members, not recruit like we should, not know enough about warring or raiding like we should; notice things that we can improve on as a group, together. Just because someone does not want to train their combat does not mean that they do not want to train their knowledge. Keep all of this in mind.

Winning wars isn't our ultimate goal, but it rakes in members and helps us become more stable as a clan, so that we can gradually focus more inwards on love and harmony . And I don't really want WG to eb a top clan, there are to many things that top clans are expected to do (10 hour pkri's etc).

I do not think that raising reqs will help recruitment directly (not much anyways). but it's all connected. More higher levels = better performance = more recruits etc etc.

I do believe that we do all need to look at ourselves and not just others and see what we as the individual can change. And don't be hostile towards others that might not be as good as you in certain aspects, but I don't think we've been doing to much low level bashing through thjis whole debate suprisingly . Hell I'm not even that high of a level (I'm training smd Omar).

On that note, Merry Xmas and sign up for the CWRI vs Solace .
 
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I totally agree with you, but who wants to join a clan that loses every war? Has unsuccessful raids, and has piss poor pulls with low lvls?


Tbh the community is what makes this clan, not the warring, but to get new members we need to be able to win wars to get them to even look at us, then they get to see what this community has to offer, thats why 90 of members i know here have been here ages, because once your in the community, you dont wish to leave it.
 
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That it how you sum up my whole post in undert 15 words lol
 
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