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 Warning Trolling? Seriously?
Posted: February 16, 2010 09:32 amTop
   
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So i must have missed the topic where we warn people for trolling. Because if you really wanted to warn people for trolling, then 50% of WG would be banned, including most of our leadership.

Seriously warning maths for trolling is a fucking joke. You can not warn someone because he isnt polite to you, and you happen to have mod powers.

If you dont want to remove the warn, then you would have to deal the same punishment to everyone.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 09:47 amTop
   
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Posted: February 16, 2010 09:52 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Bambaleo @ February 16, 2010 08:47 pm)
i don't like him at all so....warn lvls all the way hash.png

but since when does not liking a guy mean he can be warned?

if so, keanu would have been out of here ages ago

as well as big_al, crucio and adhdchild

lordy would have rather left the clan than break the rules and ban the faggot
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 09:52 amTop
   
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3 things
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Posted: February 16, 2010 09:58 amTop
   
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QUOTE: U Is Wat @ February 16, 2010 09:52 am)
QUOTE: Bambaleo February 16, 2010 08:47 pm
i don't like him at all so....warn lvls all the way hash.png

but since when does not liking a guy mean he can be warned?

if so, keanu would have been out of here ages ago

as well as big_al, crucio and adhdchild

lordy would have rather left the clan than break the rules and ban the faggot

it's not like i gave him that warn lvl...and it's not like i actually CAN give warn lvls...all i wanted to say that i don't like him and i really cbf caring about him getting banned. Please don't tell me you wouldn't think the same/don't think the same when some1 you don't like gets a warn lvl.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 09:58 amTop
   
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QUOTE: ThisIsUnique @ February 16, 2010 08:52 pm)
3 things
who what where

maths got warned for laughing at vephy getting koed at bandos, so vephy kbed him from lobby, then warned him for it.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 10:00 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Bambaleo  February 16, 2010 08:47 pm
i don't like him at all so....warn lvls all the way hash.png

but since when does not liking a guy mean he can be warned?

if so, keanu would have been out of here ages ago

as well as big_al, crucio and adhdchild

lordy would have rather left the clan than break the rules and ban the faggot

it's not like i gave him that warn lvl...and it's not like i actually CAN give warn lvls...all i wanted to say that i don't like him and i really cbf caring about him getting banned. Please don't tell me you wouldn't think the same/don't think the same when some1 you don't like gets a warn lvl.

of course, i loved it when adhdchild got banned, and got warn levels, but i dont think its right unless they earned the warn level
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 10:16 amTop
   
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QUOTE: ThisIsUnique February 16, 2010 08:52 pm
3 things
who what where

maths got warned for laughing at vephy getting koed at bandos, so vephy kbed him from lobby, then warned him for it.

Maths got warned because he laughed at vephyrus when is team refused to bless his grave at bandos, because dieyou2000 only has 69 prayer. If he hadn't been blessed, he would have lost 20m+ which takes hours of runescaping to earn.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 10:17 amTop
   
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3 things
who what where

maths got warned for laughing at vephy getting koed at bandos, so vephy kbed him from lobby, then warned him for it.

Maths got warned because he laughed at vephyrus when is team refused to bless his grave at bandos, because dieyou2000 only has 69 prayer. If he hadn't been blessed, he would have lost 20m+ which takes hours of runescaping to earn.

hours? for vephy?

nah, he can just skip a raid and get a sigil again
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 10:21 amTop
   
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QUOTE: U Is Wat @ February 16, 2010 05:17 am)
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QUOTE: ThisIsUnique  February 16, 2010 08:52 pm
3 things
who what where

maths got warned for laughing at vephy getting koed at bandos, so vephy kbed him from lobby, then warned him for it.

Maths got warned because he laughed at vephyrus when is team refused to bless his grave at bandos, because dieyou2000 only has 69 prayer. If he hadn't been blessed, he would have lost 20m+ which takes hours of runescaping to earn.

hours? for vephy?

nah, he can just skip a raid and get a sigil again

Regardless, it's still hurtful/annoying to have someone laugh at you for losing (almost) you spent hours getting.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 10:29 amTop
   
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I remember when we had the warning appeal centre, people thought it was useless and an unnecessary system, but I think it would work quite well here.

To be honest, Staff should have a longer fuse than members, if Maths did that to a member, then it would have probably elevated into a fight, ending up with both parties with a warn level.

But with Staff, I think they should just be able to ignore attacks like these, just brush it off with "lOLOLolol" or just not reply at all.

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Posted: February 16, 2010 11:05 amTop
   
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QUOTE: ThisIsUnique  February 16, 2010 08:52 pm
3 things
who what where

maths got warned for laughing at vephy getting koed at bandos, so vephy kbed him from lobby, then warned him for it.

Maths got warned because he laughed at vephyrus when is team refused to bless his grave at bandos, because dieyou2000 only has 69 prayer. If he hadn't been blessed, he would have lost 20m+ which takes hours of runescaping to earn.

hours? for vephy?

nah, he can just skip a raid and get a sigil again

didn't know that but now i'm even more happy with him getting warn lvl....vephy may be rich, but that isn't the point, what kind of fkn asshole wouldn't bless some1's grave for fun...
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 11:15 amTop
   
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The truth is here,

if someone else got koed and maths laughed, vephy wouldnt have banned him.

Therefore it simply isnt a case of warn for trolling, its a personal matter and warn levels shouldnt be given.

Regardless of whether you hate him or not, this is an injustice and you wouldn't be happy if it happened to you...
 
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I don't think Vephy's warn had to do with the gp at all. We all know he has that.

Math's not willing to bless a grave seems more than just a troll. Would you want to be on a trip with someone that is to be the clan's friend and have them do it to you?

I'll read the log and anyone with evidence can send it to me on the forum.

I don't think Vephy gives out to many warns, so it probably was deserved.


 
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QUOTE: Abmanju @ February 16, 2010 10:29 am)
To be honest, Staff should have a longer fuse than members, if Maths did that to a member, then it would have probably elevated into a fight, ending up with both parties with a warn level.

But with Staff, I think they should just be able to ignore attacks like these, just brush it off with "lOLOLolol" or just not reply at all.

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Posted: February 16, 2010 12:42 pmTop
   
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Already talked to Maths and worked this out. Honestly this topic is worthless. I had a civil discussion with Maths afterwards, how about you have some faith in the leaders.

I ignore attacks every day in IRC and on forums by people. In fact the creator of this topic has trolled and flamed me quite a bit and even in this instance today. Yet I have a short fuse now? Sorry don't buy that arguement.

Maths has been doing it almost every time he says something to me in IRC and in game. It has been a problem. It was warranted whether someone personally disagrees with it or not.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 01:20 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: vephyrus February 16, 2010 11:42 pm
Already talked to Maths and worked this out.  Honestly this topic is worthless.  I had a civil discussion with Maths afterwards, how about you have some faith in the leaders.

I ignore attacks every day in IRC and on forums by people.  In fact the creator of this topic has trolled and flamed me quite a bit and even in this instance today.  Yet I have a short fuse now?  Sorry don't buy that arguement.

Maths has been doing it almost every time he says something to me in IRC and in game.  It has been a problem.  It was warranted whether someone personally disagrees with it or not.

Personal flaming does not warrent warn levels because you have mod powers.

It is simple.

And if you have a 'civil' discussion afterwards, why would you need to ban him from the lobby, then warn him, then delete the topics he made on the forums. Must have been VERY constructive.

And to the people who said maths should have blessed, maths wasn't at the trip, he was just in IRC.

And yea, i do take shots at you. That is because I ain't going to back in the cornor and not open my mouth when I see something go past like it is ok. I will speak my mind, and fight for what i believe in.

EDIT: oh and to "having some faith in leaders", ill have faith in leaders when they do their job and lead by example. i shouldnt have to say what im thinking for you to get my message, i think i have said it enough times in this topic alone, than on these boards.
 
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Posted: February 16, 2010 01:26 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Abmanju @ February 16, 2010 09:29 pm)
I remember when we had the warning appeal centre, people thought it was useless and an unnecessary system, but I think it would work quite well here.

To be honest, Staff should have a longer fuse than members, if Maths did that to a member, then it would have probably elevated into a fight, ending up with both parties with a warn level.

But with Staff, I think they should just be able to ignore attacks like these, just brush it off with "lOLOLolol" or just not reply at all.

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ok now that that post is done, i can comment on these other posts.

Yes warning appeal centre should come back, it was very constructive.

Maths doing that to another member wouldn't have resolved in a fight, how many times do members jokingly say to other people "lul fail tank" and it resolves in a fight and warn levels? never.

And yea your right, and staff do that alot (except lee lulz *cough* soundboard *cough*)

also to those who wanted to see what maths said

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(19:49:25) <maths> Llll
(19:49:29) <maths> Vephy ko'd from #ofthegods
(19:51:50) <maths> <Chappell44> people who rnt otg dont get blesses
(19:51:51) <maths> Llll(19:52:24) <maths> I'm laughed because i already knew it
(19:52:36) <maths> laughing*


really, he didnt even laugh at vephy, he just laughed because he already knew otg doesnt bless non-otg members graves.

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Posted: February 16, 2010 01:28 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: vephyrus February 16, 2010 11:42 pm
Already talked to Maths and worked this out.  Honestly this topic is worthless.  I had a civil discussion with Maths afterwards, how about you have some faith in the leaders.

I ignore attacks every day in IRC and on forums by people.  In fact the creator of this topic has trolled and flamed me quite a bit and even in this instance today.  Yet I have a short fuse now?  Sorry don't buy that arguement.

Maths has been doing it almost every time he says something to me in IRC and in game.  It has been a problem.  It was warranted whether someone personally disagrees with it or not.

Personal flaming does not warrent warn levels because you have mod powers.

It is simple.

And if you have a 'civil' discussion afterwards, why would you need to ban him from the lobby, then warn him, then delete the topics he made on the forums. Must have been VERY constructive.

And to the people who said maths should have blessed, maths wasn't at the trip, he was just in IRC.

And yea, i do take shots at you. That is because I ain't going to back in the cornor and not open my mouth when I see something go past like it is ok. I will speak my mind, and fight for what i believe in.

EDIT: oh and to "having some faith in leaders", ill have faith in leaders when they do their job and lead by example. i shouldnt have to say what im thinking for you to get my message, i think i have said it enough times in this topic alone, than on these boards.

I was talking about the flames directed at me? How am I backing you into a corner? ohmy.gif

And the civil discussion was an hour later after things had cooled down.

This incident was a not just the 1st time. This isn't just the run of the mill trolling that staff get everyday.

Lead by example huh? How long have you been in this clan? I've been here consistently for too years and I've been a very consistent leader. If this is the basis of the arguement I think it is biased off of prior feelings.
 
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QUOTE: vephyrus @ February 17, 2010 12:28 am)
Lead by example huh? How long have you been in this clan? I've been here consistently for too years and I've been a very consistent leader. If this is the basis of the arguement I think it is biased off of prior feelings.

3 years in WG.

6 months as Event Leader, making constant events throughtout those 6 months, not just making one week of events then going inactive till people complain about lack of events.

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Jayson, best be careful speaking your mind can result in warnings too apparently.
 
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QUOTE: Onathe @ February 17, 2010 12:31 am)
Jayson, best be careful speaking your mind can result in warnings too apparently.

ill be happy to receive warns for speaking my mind.

If i dont say anything, then nothing will happen
 
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QUOTE: U Is Wat February 16, 2010 08:31 am
       
QUOTE: vephyrus  February 17, 2010 12:28 am
Lead by example huh?  How long have you been in this clan?  I've been here consistently for too years and I've been a very consistent leader.  If this is the basis of the arguement I think it is biased off of prior feelings.

3 years in WG.

6 months as Event Leader, making constant events throughtout those 6 months, not just making one week of events then going inactive till people complain about lack of events.

Nice try

Rejoined not too long ago though?

Yet you judge me off of when you have been here.

Also I've made ALOT of events, but you had to try to take another jab at my credibility. Nice.
 
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Why not just have a nice game of 'Scape.

If it's been going on awhile, then i wouldn't argue with it, it's not like it's a complete 100% ban warn, he's not in the clan therefore shouldn't effect him too much. Unless however he has hurt feelings over it lol.

So in my opinion stop the little bickering when it seems that it won't get reversed, take it pm, since public flaming isn't needed.
 
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if vephy has already spoken to maths...and they sorted it out, then why the f is this topic still open?
 
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