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Posted: April 2, 2010 02:47 amTop
   
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SUCKS

discuss.

also, im glad for this update gene.

Even though it is harsh, it means members cant cruise in Emeritus when they dont even play scape.
 
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Posted: April 2, 2010 02:48 amTop
   
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Posted: April 2, 2010 02:55 amTop
   
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^ What WoW does to you
 
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Posted: April 2, 2010 04:03 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson)
Even though it is harsh, it means members cant cruise in Emeritus when they dont even play scape.
That rank exists for people who don't play RS anymore. tongue.gif

Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J_ccwKWmBA

It does piss me off though. RS has extraordinary potential, JaGeX is just retarded.
 
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Posted: April 2, 2010 09:20 pmTop
   


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Link pls
 
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Posted: April 2, 2010 10:03 pmTop
   
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rs sucks. Even if people don't/won't play wow, we still play other games. Nice try, but this is a failure already, you can't stop people from doing what they want to do.

Nice Life broski.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgW3ogaV84
 
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Posted: April 2, 2010 10:41 pmTop
   
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I'll see your Blind and raise you a Workcraft. biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msmRwlg23Qc
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 01:45 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Kcross73 @ April 02, 2010 02:55 am)
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^ What WoW does to you

Possibly the worst 'shop in history. That blending is FUCKING POOR.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 02:21 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Eregion2 @ April 03, 2010 03:03 am)
QUOTE: Jayson)
Even though it is harsh, it means members cant cruise in Emeritus when they dont even play scape.
That rank exists for people who don't play RS anymore. tongue.gif

Emeritus is actual for members who are too inactive for normal ranks, but who can still go to wars occasionly.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 02:47 amTop
   


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What update?
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 03:01 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ April 03, 2010 01:47 pm)
What update?

oh it was an april fools joke, but it would be a good update.

basically it said that gene was banning world of warcraft talk on the forums and no emeritus was allowed to play WoW so emeritus members would be more active
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 04:11 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson @ April 02, 2010 09:21 pm)
QUOTE: Eregion2 April 03, 2010 03:03 am
       
QUOTE: Jayson)
Even though it is harsh, it means members cant cruise in Emeritus when they dont even play scape.
That rank exists for people who don't play RS anymore. tongue.gif

Emeritus is actual for members who are too inactive for normal ranks, but who can still go to wars occasionly.

It's not, actually. Not entirely anyways, I guess that's one half of it.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 04:55 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Eregion2 @ April 03, 2010 03:11 pm)
QUOTE: Jayson April 02, 2010 09:21 pm
       
QUOTE: Eregion2  April 03, 2010 03:03 am
       
QUOTE: Jayson)
Even though it is harsh, it means members cant cruise in Emeritus when they dont even play scape.
That rank exists for people who don't play RS anymore. tongue.gif

Emeritus is actual for members who are too inactive for normal ranks, but who can still go to wars occasionly.

It's not, actually. Not entirely anyways, I guess that's one half of it.

thats what the role was intended for. then runescape got shit and things that turned out the way it is.

i got nothing wrong with the people wanting to hang aruond the clan, but its unfair that normal membesr have to work their asses off for the clan while emeritus get to see more forums even tho they dont even play the game.

and lots of other examples
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 09:48 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson April 03, 2010 04:55 am
       
QUOTE: Eregion2  April 03, 2010 03:11 pm
       
QUOTE: Jayson  April 02, 2010 09:21 pm
       
QUOTE: Eregion2  April 03, 2010 03:03 am
       
QUOTE: Jayson)
Even though it is harsh, it means members cant cruise in Emeritus when they dont even play scape.
That rank exists for people who don't play RS anymore. tongue.gif

Emeritus is actual for members who are too inactive for normal ranks, but who can still go to wars occasionly.

It's not, actually. Not entirely anyways, I guess that's one half of it.

thats what the role was intended for. then runescape got shit and things that turned out the way it is.

i got nothing wrong with the people wanting to hang aruond the clan, but its unfair that normal membesr have to work their asses off for the clan while emeritus get to see more forums even tho they dont even play the game.

and lots of other examples

no, the role was for people who quit rs cold turkey for good, but wanted to stay in wg for the community, only recently has the idea of it being for people who will war occasionally come into play.

p.s- Love the vid eregion
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 10:58 amTop
   
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i doubt it. why would emeritus be granted level 1 3/4 rights if they wernt going to play scape anymore. emeritus is for members who were too inactive for the normal ranks but wanted to stay in the clan
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 01:09 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Jayson April 03, 2010 10:58 am
i doubt it. why would emeritus be granted level 1 3/4 rights if they wernt going to play scape anymore. emeritus is for members who were too inactive for the normal ranks but wanted to stay in the clan

Lvl 1.75 was made for Emeritus & Higher Guardians in mind; before there was no forum for Higher Guardians/Emeritus, it went from Level One to Level Two (Elite Guardian).

Emeritus & Higher Guardian couldn't voice their opinion without the Guardian rank viewing it. Level One to Two are there for the higher ranking members to talk to each other, the members with more experience, voicing issues regarding lower ranking members or just general issues about the clan that they don't want the specific rank to view and you know what Lvl 3 & 4 is for.

Personally Runescape bores me now and I don't play it anymore apart from the anniversary really.

And I don't think seeing more forums really matters, Emeritus is granted at Higher Guardian & so Emeritus can view most of the forums Higher Guardian can view.

Although I do believe Emeritus should be granted at Tertiary really & have the same forum access as they do now. Obviously if this was implicated all current Emeritus would keep their rank, just a new policy from here on afterwards.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 01:20 pmTop
   
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i doubt it. why would emeritus be granted level 1 3/4 rights if they wernt going to play scape anymore. emeritus is for members who were too inactive for the normal ranks but wanted to stay in the clan


As abs said, 1 3/4 is a relatively new idea, the rank of emeritus was made a long long time before that forum. Its basically a place where people can communicate with emeritus for specific reasons. If i'm right, higher guardian can see 1 3/4, or 2? Emeritus should be a rank you get as elite guardian (or maybe higher), so you've already made some sort of a progression.

Originally it was for rs-retired people, but nowadays some people are on either side of the line, dabbling into rs now and then (like me, for example), and emeritus accomodates that. Its understandable that people think its a bit unfair that emeritus have less requirement for a similar access, but its supposed to be a rank which is earned. The access to many forums helps integrate the community and keep them nice and active, the access to events is similarly to support them and have the extra people there if needed.

I do agree though that WoW discussion should not be openly public to a certain extent. There's a lot to talk about, so it could potentially overshadow RS. It should be something on the side, which people can talk about if they want, but not have to involve everyone else. We've lost enough people to it as it is =k I'd never play it though because its bloody expensive
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 01:50 pmTop
   
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hmm. See this is the way i think it should be:

Emeritus:
- For members higher guardian + who do not meet the activity requirements can choose to be moved to emeritus on the basis they attend at least 1 in 5 wars (unless really bad activity problem is causing otherwise i.e. net down for a month, family issues) but only for Higher +
- Members of Emeritus rank must still be playing scape and be comitted 100% to WG
- Can view level 1 & 3/4 and less (same as Emeritus atm)

Honored Ex-Member:
- People who do not achieve the 1 in 5 wars from Emeritus. But if the member miss both next 2 wars, they will be demoted to Ex-Member (see below)
- Members who do not play scape anymore but are commited to WG, but must be ex-staff.
- Can view level 1 and less (same as Regular Member)

Ex-Member:
- All members who left the clan or could not achieve the 7 war attendance in a row.
- Can view public forums (Same as Ex-Member now)
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 01:59 pmTop
   
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Although that's well thought out, it just won't work like that. Reason i say that is that 'emeritus' has been a rank with a specific meaning which has been used for 5 years. It just can't adopt a completely different meaning now. If that's to be done, it needs a new name altogether.

Similarly, ex-member has its own meaning too, its basically something given to everyone. If someone says 'yeah i was a member for 2 weeks then i got bored' we're like 'oh go on then, have this rank' and it means nothing really.

Emeritus was made to distinguish those who played a significant part in the clan, be it ex-council or just a friendly devoted member, from those who joined for a few weeks, didn't do much, then left again.

It just seems as though if you're making a nice gradient of inactivity, that's just going to persuade people that its alright to slip back and not try their best to attend stuff. And I know in WG we've always tried to limit the number of ranks to make it as simple as possible.

That's my take anyway, see if anyone else has a different point of view.
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 02:47 pmTop
   
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yea, i just find it unfair that there are emeritus who dont even scape anymore who get to keep the same rank as hard working, event attending emeritus like you who keep WG and Runescape as priority #1
 
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Posted: April 3, 2010 11:11 pmTop
   
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Just want to point some things out:

Definition of the word "Emeritus":
- retired or honorably discharged from active professional duty, but retaining the title of one's office or position

Definition of the word "retired":
- withdrawn from or no longer occupied with one's business or profession

Emeritus is an honorable rank given to people who have given more than what was asked of them to WG. They no longer work - they're retired.

You're basically saying "You can have a rank meant for people that don't play this game, as long as you play this game."

The rank isn't meant for people who aren't active enough to be considered "active". It's for people who are finished with RS but want to remain a part of the WG community.
 
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Posted: April 4, 2010 12:42 amTop
   
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But I love WoW !
 
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Posted: April 4, 2010 01:20 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Dorcha3377 @ April 04, 2010 12:42 am)
But I love WoW !

Impossible. You can't be that sexy and play WoW. The universe will explode.
 
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Posted: April 4, 2010 04:08 amTop
   
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QUOTE: David @ April 04, 2010 10:11 am)
You're basically saying "You can have a rank meant for people that don't play this game, as long as you play this game."

The rank isn't meant for people who aren't active enough to be considered "active". It's for people who are finished with RS but want to remain a part of the WG community.

Well then change the name.

I really dont see how someone can be considered a member of the clan when they dont play runescape

This is a runescape clan for runescape players to play runescape together

If they stay to be in the community, why do they need a special rank to view our hidden topics to talk about clan issues?
 
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Posted: April 4, 2010 05:23 amTop
   
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So your real frustration is that they can see our security forums?

The rank is supposed to be an honor. Not many people are supposed to have it. I believe back before we handed our promotions like they were candy, to get Emeritus you had to be an Honored Member, or the equivalent of Elite Guardian. And even then it was at the discretion of the Council - you had to be that rank to ASK for it, not be GIVEN it.

The whole purpose of using that rank is to honor the people that have it. When a professor is given the title, it means he keeps his "position" at the university he had worked at but no longer works there. He remains part of the organization but really doesn't do anything for them anymore, but they felt it would be a gesture of kindness to honor him with an "eternal" rank in their organization.

That's what Emeritus is for.

Like I said, the mistake was saying any old Higher Guardian could demand the rank. Only Elite+ should be allowed to ASK for it, and even then they shouldn't expect it.
 
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