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Posted: April 13, 2008 09:14 pm  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58    | I remember back to the times we would dominate clans with same opts, and have half our opts remaining. I see a war now where we get absolutely dominated. And I see why. Back in our summer 07 prime (i think it was summer 07) at p2p minis we had piles 10-man-strong, giving us easy KO's. We'd have mages sniped, and tanks brought down. In the war against DW, we had a lot of people having 1 on 1s, with their tanks hugging walls and people constantly getting trapped (including me, dare I say it, seeing as i've had about 1 p2p war in the past 5 months). They had great piles going on, where most of them knew where it was, and our stragglers got KOed. Its performances like this that call for times of practice. We're supposed to be a veterean p2p clan, and we get our asses handed to us by a clan who's only just ventured into p2p. You can't rely on the real events to count as a practice, we need something like castle wars or intra-clan wars to get people up to speed with both keeping themselves alive, and falling decent piles. We need to live up to our name as p2p masters. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:49 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | I totally agree with all of that. We should have weekly events to the popular P2P CWA worlds for practice. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:08 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dalejamesw Group: Banned Posts: -1280 Member No.: 14 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 222 |
I'd love to... However people hardley turn up for practices then moan when we loose wars  -------------------- | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:08 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | On another note,
To an extent, I agree with that. There's a few who always congratulate the other side and give us a good image, yet there's always some who obsess over seemingly minor issues. If one person cheated without the leaders knowing, report it to the leaders with evidence and they'll deal with it. Its matters like those that would make pretty much 0% change to the outcome. Other people immediately get an impression on a clan when it can't take a loss. It limits the amount of mature people you can recruit into the clan. Remember, its just a game. Unless you're an ultimate clan like DS was, you have to take the wins and the loses. Just use each win and lose to your advantage and move on. That's all I suggest. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow" | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:13 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 |
That's always going to happen. Unfortunately practices often get lower turnouts. However, back in january 2007 we held full out raids with 6 people. Whenever there's members, there's an event. The people who don't attend will (if the practices are run right) be the first ones to die, and kick themselves when they're in the room missing out on the action. The practices will still make an overall difference. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow" | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:16 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | Yea we've lost our touch We regained our experience in f2p, but we've lost our p2p -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:40 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | Very good suggestion. I think our loss is more or less due to lack of experince in p2p, and not lack of organization. We are used to f2p wars where things are less chaotic and piles are more defined. In f2p wars it is paramount that everyone stay on the same pile, and so we have it drilled into our minds that we need to find the main pile and not make piles of our own. As a result I think we had alot of people who were simply looking for the main pile instead of attacking. I kind of got the feeling that we would have done better in this war if we simply told people to attack any mage that they saw, even if it was not the main pile. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:53 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | Yes I totally agree. We have no organization out there sometimes. -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||||
Posted: April 14, 2008 12:33 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I've always liked practice events, they have a lot of potential to be fun and helpful. There is a lot of merit to practicing in the actual clan war arena, but if there is not enough demand for that consider Castle Wars. You can act as a team and practice most of the important things that come into play at Clan Wars. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: April 14, 2008 12:37 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | heh wen im on i can be able to lead couple of people and do some clan war practises and maybe some interclan practises -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0   | ||||
Posted: April 14, 2008 07:53 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I aggree to, we must pile the one person (i say we pile the tanks) but the rangers/magers take down there magers which then gives our tanks the advantage of taking there tanks out and also give our magers the advantage on freezing the tanks without being sniped by other magers/rangers -------------------- | ||||
Posted: April 14, 2008 03:52 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 |
Yeah definitely. People don't tend to respect the difference between f2p and p2p, and there is quite a significant difference. Its important to have several people on one pile because you can get a KO and not even have to worry about de-hugging, but if the pile can't be found the worst thing to do is to stand around doing nothing. You should never 1v1 a meleer though, its just a waste of time. If they're not an idiot, they'll just keep alive, and waste your food. Finding a mage is a great idea or if you can't see one in the immediate surrounding, attack someone a wg is already attacking, and then start a second pile. And of course, watch your hp while in the open. Rangers are a priority as well as magers. Hugging is very annoying for a meleer, but for a ranger its no problem at all. Rangers can attack people without sustaining any damage to themselves. Anyone long-ranging should be taken down. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow" | ||||
Posted: April 14, 2008 11:29 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | Apparently there is a new tactic out there called "mass-sniping" http://www.zybez.net/community/index.php?showtopic=1038414 While I think mass-sniping is a very bad idea in a f2p war, it might have some advantages in a p2p war. In a p2p war if someone is sniping you it generally cannot be ignored like in a f2p war, and hence has much more potential to disrupt the piling abilities of the opposing clan. Specifically if mass-sniping is used against mages, and to a lesser extent rangers. Not only that, but if I am correct we had the lvls in the fight against DW. I think our problem was that we had no mages and so were just wasting too much time either looking for the pile or chasing people down. If we would have mass-sniped and turned the fight into a DM-fest we might have won. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: April 16, 2008 08:36 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | We've become immensley FTP Base...We hardly do PTP wars that much, in FTP we do brilliantly well with Tanking, Sniping etc. But how RS has become through PTP has shocked us. Yeah, Practice in PTP is a good idea, we'll see. ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
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