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Posted: April 13, 2008 09:25 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: Robertw56 Group: Guest Posts: 1908 Member No.: 15 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 118    | Yeah so Snowzak got a p2p mini for sunday night with Dragonwood, let's say it didn't turn out to well. The first fight - Started off great guys, our first piles were excellent, quick easy ko's. Then after our first 5 kills, we went downhill, people were getting ko'ed without there prayer on, and it was only a matter of time before they won. The problems we had were: - People were walking around, doing nothing, this was partly the leaders fault for not telling people were the pile was etc. - Not enough mages, I counted 2, maybe 3. They had about 8-10, that was one of the main reasons they won. ___________________________________________ The second fight - This started off worse than the last fight, we got our first kill, then we went into panic mode, running around everywhere, hitting random people. We had the same problems as the first fight, but they escalated into a worser stage, we need to improve alot. _________________________________________ You say how we can improve? There are alot of ways, first off, more intra-clan miniwars, these help tremendously, and it gets you together with clan members. Creating more miniwars, yes they could end up like this fight did, but guess what, the more we do, the better we get. Getting leaders to call locations when a pile is called, I noticed in this fight that some of the leaders wern't. When you don't call locations it obviously takes everyone into a spin of running around, and commonly getting themselves killed. I could probably think of more to put here, but I'm tired and want to go to bed so yeah. ___________________________________________ Thanks for coming guys, and I hope to see you at future p2p fights. ~Rob --------------------    | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:28 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Sorry I couldn't be there. I eventually decided that revision was more important than rs  oh well it has to be done, I have to squeeze every available hour.Good job guys, even if you did not win this time. We will improve for next time, we don't have much P2P experience, so hardly surprising that we lost this one. Well done all the same ~George  --------------------    | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:30 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Flippie||Afk Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1708 Member No.: 55 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | i dced after like 5 kills  my net died, and i couldnt reconnect untill now p2p wars are always a bit of a chaos. we just need the leaders to call a fallin after the rush, so we can start the fight with good piles. because like rob said, every1 was running around, finding the target. -------------------- http://www.myspace.com/ZitherBand Support my Friends!  | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:30 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | That fight sucked. --------------------   Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:33 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | Yeah. I noticed that also. I wasn't fighting, but was on TS, and I never really heard the leaders call where the pile was. If people don't do this already, have your chat screen always be on the Clan Chat because the people who are dead are constantly putting information there. I'm not 100% if this is something people should do, but if you're not sure where the pile is. or don't have a click on the person, just use the minimap to run to where you see a large cluster of green dots, at a avery least you won't be standing there asking to be attacked. We had the lead in the beginning of both of these fights. I'd also like to comment on Robs note about our magers, and the fact we basically didn't have any. I was constantly saying while we were massing "Who are our magers?" and "Do we have all 10 magers?" I mean, we had room for 10 people to use mage and according to Rob we had 2, maybe 3. Our next war like this we really need to make a list and have people say what they're going to do. I remember we always did this in the old days, and I think it worked back then. At a very least you know who's doing what and how many people you have in a certain position. --------------------   | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:33 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pazenon Group: Emeritus Posts: 1477 Member No.: 33 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 79 | We do learn from the fights we lose; remember our F2P losing streak a couple of months ago? -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:40 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Uff. Pictures... First when they attacked terribly without warning....  Them being poop heads wasting time....    I think we seriously shouldn't accept p2p wars. I've said it before, and I'll say it again! we are not ready for p2p wars. I promise you that 70% of the clan doesn't know how to properly p2p. I'm tired... Peace -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:45 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | well stinks that we lost but hopefully we learned some stuff, and i was supposed to be able to come but my mom made me go see my grandma like 2 hours prior to war sorry i missed it -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 09:45 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | I disagree, we should do more P2P wars, or at least more P2P CWA events so we can get better at it. -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:03 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Hamad Group: Emeritus Posts: 334 Member No.: 175 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 39 | The first p2p war we had in a long time. So our p2p skills generally suck but there is room for improvement. Really we can't always rely on leaders for piles. Do it like the good old days of spam towers and just calling names. Spamming "Got tea?" is the only spamming we are good at. We need to be better at spamming names for piles. Instant KO if like 10 of us just hit on guy at once. Also when u see a mage attack that mage and spam the name. One guy called H a Richard a hybrid survived the whole fight with robes mostly on. I attacked him even when dw was calling my name for the pile. When u see robes ATTACK! And i lasted long with sharks  -------------------- WG since July 2004. s7, s4, s10, wg.com, z6 veterans Formerly known as 'Iron this' (banned on The 7th day of February 2006) R.I.P Msn: [email protected] | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:06 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 |
Is this situation not so different from us in f2p several months ago? We lost again, and again, until we were experienced enough Now look at our f2p now 2nd fight, I nearly 2 speced a guy, but he hugged the wall just b4 second spec. I dont think he intended to do it  -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:09 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | Remember how we weren't that good at f2p warring a couple of months back? We kept losing fights over and over. But you see how good we are in f2p fights now? This is exactly the same case. Wg hasn't touched p2p for a while, just take this as a learning experience. We'll eventually get better, like we did in f2p. Like, there was a lot of people attacking randoms, which is ok if you are barraged or something, but most of the time, try to focus on the main pile. This is different from f2p fights. In f2p, basically we only att 1 person from the opposing clan. P2p we attack a lot more people at the same time. So the risk of you getting piled by 1 person is higher. You have to watch your hp. If it falls below 20 off the max, eat a shark because you may get piled next instant. Always have a protect prayer on, preferably melee. We bring enough restores so ALL of the time, you have a protect prayer on. I used piety for a bit too, in 2 spots, at the start + when i was piled. Walk around in d-hide top + rune legs, gives a good magic def bonus + decent melee bonus. Anyway, its a learning experience. We will improve  Even I'm a bit rusty on p2p atm, but this war helped. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||
Posted: April 13, 2008 10:55 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | Yeah... For sure this wasn't a strong day for WG. -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||
Posted: April 14, 2008 12:35 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | wow dat sox. Well if we keep doing clan war practises against each other and ally clans we'll get better. Just brush this loss off and keep practising. Thats all we can do right now -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0  | ||
Posted: April 14, 2008 04:05 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I agree we should have more mini clans wars to improve ourselves. I really suck cause imma noob. Plus its soo fun when we all get together. I like being with everyone ! Can't get enough  -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 14, 2008 10:24 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | We may not be good atm but we will definatly get better. The more p2p practice/minis/wars we have the better we get at it. -------------------- | ||
Posted: April 14, 2008 01:46 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Hamad Group: Emeritus Posts: 334 Member No.: 175 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 39 | Practice needed in p2p warring. Thats how we use to own back then. Just parctice -------------------- WG since July 2004. s7, s4, s10, wg.com, z6 veterans Formerly known as 'Iron this' (banned on The 7th day of February 2006) R.I.P Msn: [email protected] | ||
Posted: April 14, 2008 02:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I'm still training and I have fun just going along I still have alot to learn about killing  --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
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